The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

[milanator]

So after a Honda, we're getting a suzuki

Will moncada bring a Toyota next?

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Sota Kawasaki, 23, aus Japan ➤ Kyoto Sanga, seit 2019 ➤ Defensives Mittelfeld ➤ Marktwert: 1,20 Mio. € ➤ * 30.07.2001 in Kofu, Yamanashi, Japan

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[Pb02]

Antonello Gioia from MilanNews: The atmosphere within the team was peculiar. Just like Stefano Pioli at the end of his tenure, as admitted by the manager himself, Ibrahimovic failed to get through to the team.

“I repeat, we are at Milanello. In these rooms, and I want to clarify, I’m not saying this in defense of Ibrahimovic. I don’t care to defend him. I believe that Ibra has made many mistakes, and Milan is paying the price. There’s no doubt about that.

“So, I’m not defending him. I’m just recounting facts that I know well. Many have told me about them, not just one person. I have evidence that has been verified, and some of it I’ve personally witnessed.

“What I can tell you is that Ibrahimovic turned these rooms upside down several times during the Conceicao era. Many times, he did so with gentleness, harshness, and even middle-ground methods.

“To be more precise, in some matches, especially during the dark period between February and March, the team was in the dressing room. Ibrahimovic entered and addressed the players with extreme severity.

“He was very strict on more than one occasion, and once, if you’ll allow me to use the expression, he was very exaggerated in his style and movements because he saw fit to do so. Not only that, but he also tried to use a gentle approach, giving motivational speeches to seek a reaction from the players, and sometimes using a middle ground.

“Another thing that happened was in the Coppa Italia final, or rather before it, in Rome about a month ago. Ibra gave a speech to the team, and then the team entered the pitch, as we know, and put in a very lackluster performance.

“What reminded me of that match in Rome, and what reminded me of that incident with Ibrahimovic, is something Stefano Pioli said. Before Roma-Milan in the Europa League, with the team having lost 1-0 in the first leg at the San Siro, Pioli gave what he described as the best speech of his career.

“He said that the speech touched every nerve: spirit, motivation, charisma, leadership, tactics, and technique. But as we know, the team put in a lackluster performance, just like in the Coppa Italia final.

“What does this mean? I don’t want to defend Pioli or Ibrahimovic. I repeat and emphasize that I don’t care about defending Ibra. In fact, I believe he’s among the main culprits for the situation at Milan, and he’s certainly the primary culprit for the failure of the Milan Futuro project.

“However, we must be fair to him and say that his presence, especially since January, has been very strong here at Milanello, but it hasn’t had the expected impact.

“I believe this group is no longer responsive. It no longer has motivation. It no longer has incentives. It lacks a strong core of players who are role models, who guide the team, and who consistently and consistently transmit these values to the dressing room,” he stated.


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What the pioli statement is talking about:


**When did you realise it was over at AC Milan?**

“There was a precise moment: the return leg of the Europa League quarter-final, Roma v Milan, at the Olimpico. In the first leg, we had lost 1-0. In the dressing room before the match, I gave a goosebump speech, one of my most heartfelt ever. I was sure we would go through.

“Instead, the team got nothing and did little on the pitch. There I realized that what I was giving was no longer enough. The empathy had broken down."

Sure , our players shat the bed, no doubt about it, but when summer arrives and you see the management trying to save money, being stingy about new reinforcements, not calling you up to renew, getting the cheapest coach available, your president talking nonsense about winning is boring... the message you are sending to the players is clear: low demands for everyone, time to coast through the season, get 4th position and go back to your rap career, playing golf or beating women at the disco. And now the minute you don't get 4th what do you do? Sell your best player within the first week of mercato, of course Maignan and Theo want to go, Pulisic and Leao if they had a minimum of ambition will ask out too.


Nobody is acountable in this team, you fail and get rewarded by getting shipped on favourable terms to better teams, or you keep coasting giving no shit and collecting paychecks ala Origi...


We need to work hard on our club's culture and stop giving these signs. If instead of gifting Rejndeers to City you give a press conference and assure no main player will leave and that you will improve the team massively, call Theo and Maignan and assure them they either renew or play the season with us to get us back to CL and leave for free, and get a star signing to begin the mercato with a bang instead of our depresive state as of now, things will look so different. Not only for the fans but for the players, rival teams, agents and so on. But this team keeps refusing to invest, the best we can do is re-invest and poorly at that.

 

[Hitchens]

Marotta said Italy loss against Norway is more embarassing than their loss against PSG

Sure Beppazzo sure

That's hilarious. I think Norway might have a stronger team than Italy, even on paper.

 

[danilo1899]

Actually Lotito claimed he turned down a 140m offer from Milan back in 2018 when Leonardo was SD.
Offer was 60m upfront + 80m payable in five installments.
The reason as revealed by Tare is because he had promised Simone to not sell him that season.

Lazio president Lotito claims he rejected '€140m offer' from Milan for Milinkovic-Savic

Lazio president Claudio Lotito has made the claim that he turned down a huge offer for Sergej Milinkovic-Savic from AC Milan five years ago.

sempremilan.com

Ex-director confirms Lazio rejected 'over €100m bids' from Milan and Man Utd

The former sporting director of Lazio, Igli Tare, has confirmed that he rejected a huge bid from AC Milan for midfielder Sergej Milinkovic-Savic.

sempremilan.com

Credit to him tbh.

EDIT:
CORRECTION: He said he rejected a 140m from Galliani NOT Leonardo

Lotito: ‘I refused €140m offer from Galliani and Milan for Milinkovic-Savic’ - Football Italia

Lazio president Claudio Lotito claims that he rejected an €140m offer for Sergej Milinkovic-Savic from Milan in the past.

football-italia.net

Oh I know that story bro... Of course I don't buy it for a second. Juve sold Pogba for less ffs, it would've been a record transfer for italian clubs. If anyone came even close to that number he'd be gone in a second, let alone he wasn't in Real, but in Lazio.

And for Galliani to offer that amount, come on... He maybe offered 14 mil and Lotito added a 0 at the end. All that during our "loan with an option to cry" era...

 

[grandeacm2]

And Romario did it before both of them. And then Zico did it before him and Rivellino before him. Throw in Maradona who did it as well whose idol like Ronaldinho was Rivellino. George Weah done it in his CL run with PSG.




Ronaldo is the best #9. Most fans don't understand the nuances of differences within a role. A #9 can mean a variety of different things. Sometimes its a poacher sometimes its some big lanky cunt whose good at holding up the ball. Etc etc



Hes still a #9. More of a hybrid but then so where the likes of Van Basten. Complete #9. Run in behind hold up the ball or drop deep. It's not as complicated as you are making it out to be.



Differences in culture from European Football.

I was talking about popularizing it as a signature move. Ronaldo was who made the move really mainstream first and was who people were imitating for years before Ronaldinho.

Ronaldo reinvented the center-forward along with Weah, no striker was playing like them before. This is widely agreed upon.
They were not dropping in midfield to run straight at defenders and dribble them like Ronaldo was.

 

[Hitchens]

Leader of the new Milan. For a season at least.

 

[grandeacm2]

Oh I know that story bro... Of course I don't buy it for a second. Juve sold Pogba for less ffs, it would've been a record transfer for italian clubs. If anyone came even close to that number he'd be gone in a second, let alone he wasn't in Real, but in Lazio.

And for Galliani to offer that amount, come on... He maybe offered 14 mil and Lotito added a 0 at the end. All that during our "loan with an option to cry" era...

Well, the article mentions that Lotito may have been confused since he says he recieved an offer from Galliani in 2018. Maybe just Lotito's age catching up to him? Maybe he confused Fassone for Galliani

 

[Swagotelli]

Marotta said Italy loss against Norway is more embarassing than their loss against PSG

Sure Beppazzo sure

 

[patosheva]

Pedulla says mike is close to chelsiki for around 23 to 25 mil eur.
Also we want 25 plus bonuses for theo
And recived offer from betis 15 mil foc chukc.

 

[Ashish]

23 million for him on last year

 

[Alo88]

Kim was good at nipples to be fair.

We also have the Korean marketing angle.

Loan with option then it’s ok.

Funny how the valuation of Kim has drastically changed for the worse in here when he became the subject of a possible technical counterpart in Bayerns offer for Leao.

I could swear just two weeks ago people were dead sure that Conte inherited a deploited Napoli side that lost all its super stars, among them Kim, and what a miracle it was he won the a Scudetto nontheless.

Well, what is it now?

 

[ACM14061988]

My source told me Liberali is kinda discouraged but we will try to sign a new contract with him, Tare likes him a lot

 

[The Cat]

Moretto is pissing me off now. So according to reports we are lining up svilar, we have 'blocked' Vanja and now we want this motherfucking SUZUKI??

 

[Buske]

Interesting. I actually dislike the devil on the shirt.

For me it adds to the training kit feel.

All our kits lately are childish. Adidas was for men

 

[Swagotelli]

Not even kinda close to our worse signing...

Free transfers contracts are different- he made 3.5 million per year over a 4 year deal. Obviously he hasn't done shit for us, and that's 14 million (28 gross?), so no one is arguing it was a good move, but there are plenty of moves where we paid a transfer fee and the player has flopped that have cost the club more

Mattia Calarda was 35 million and played 1 Serie A game total
Andrea Conte cost 24 plus Pessina, and gave us nothing
We sold Paquetà at an 18 million loss
Chuks has 4 goals in 50 Serie A games vs 2 in 27 for Origi, so virtually identical rates, but cost over 20 million and has a similar contract, so costs more in total vs production

I can go on.

Origi was clearly a huge miss, but I think how bad the cost of the mistake was gets overstated

I’d add bonucci to it. Worst captain and very disrespectful + swap deal with Caldara was a 40m+ writeoff for us

 

[ymsv]

Marotta said Italy loss against Norway is more embarassing than their loss against PSG

Sure Beppazzo sure

Pathetic . There was a time when a moustached Italian plumber can save the World .

 

[Ryo]

23 million for him on last year

We only paid 16.5M for him in 2020/21
Pure Plusvalenza.

 

[Pigeon]

so we're going with 3 new gk’s into the season?

blocked VMS
agreed contract terms with svilar
want to sign zion

 

[LemonCookies]

x club wants fringe milan player

management expects more than 5 cents for said player

x club counters and offers 2 cents

Fuck these clubs.

We've done this to ourselves, however, by working the market like total amateurs the last few years. Tare has a long road ahead of him in getting our transfer standing back to something even close to respectable. Ridiculous to keep expecting us to hit on random ass 20mil players with identical wages. It's like we've been incapable of negotiating deals. One size fits all for a club of Milan's size is unreal.

 

[CapitanoMaldini]

 

[Curupira]

So after a Honda, we're getting a suzuki

Will moncada bring a Toyota next?

“Couldn’t afford the car so we named our salad ‘ALexus’”

 

[Swagotelli]

As we've known for a long time, that group of players are unprofessional, low effort, gutless pussies. Why some people on here are objecting to a wholesale clearout is beyond me. It's exactly what is needed.

Wholesale clear out in one window is suicidal. Need to phase it out. Better for negotiations also - people will squeeze your balls if you sell everyone and desperately looking to replace

 

[Curupira]

I could swear just two weeks ago people were dead sure that Conte inherited a deploited Napoli side that lost all its super stars, among them Kim, and what a miracle it was he won the a Scudetto nontheless.

Only people who consider Kim a star are Koreans…

 

[ACM14061988]

My source told me he spoke with the Ceo of Lega Serie A De Siervo. He confirmed to him that Scaroni leaves every reunion after 30 minutes and then he (and so we) always get fucked because he is not present. Furlani has no relationship with Lega Serie A. We want to play Milan Como at the Yankee stadium but the problem is that the US are pushing all their funds towards the Club World Cup and the World Cup, so either the Yankees pay or this game will be played in Australia or Middle East. Como is in full agreement, they want to be the new Atalanta. Supercoppa will be played the week before Christmas and will be played in Jeddah

 

[Berlusconi]

Verona defender Diego Coppola is on the verge of joining Brighton for a fee exceeding €11m plus add-ons, with the Premier League side confident of reaching a complete agreement within 48 hours.

Why we're not in it for this guy? I'm afraid it'll be someone random like Rugani in the end...

Because we don’t like to actually be good at scouting we like to get unbelievable deals for failed talents at other clubs these days

 

[ymsv]

Sota Kawasaki - Spielerprofil 2025

Sota Kawasaki, 23, aus Japan ➤ Kyoto Sanga, seit 2019 ➤ Defensives Mittelfeld ➤ Marktwert: 1,20 Mio. € ➤ * 30.07.2001 in Kofu, Yamanashi, Japan

www.transfermarkt.at

 

[LemonCookies]

Notice how "our" number keeps being lowered by the media. 150mil, to 120-130mil, to 100mil, to 80mil. It'll be 3 tuna cans and a crate of bananas by the end of June.

We're not selling him. Fans can cry about it, media can cry about it, other teams can cry about it. As always, so long as we actually construct a functional team, this is great news to me. If our squad is equally as unbalanced as it has been for years now, then haters will still be eating good, but that's hardly Leao's fault.

 

[Bringfriends]

Surely there is no way he goes to Juve, right?

 

[IL-Capitano]

My source told me Liberali is kinda discouraged but we will try to sign a new contract with him, Tare likes him a lot

Just get it done and rotate the kid in the first team. Show some faith in him and give him some game time to grow into the first team.

If Modric is playing and used effectively strategically Liberali could learn a lot from him. As could Adli.

Modric needs other players to carry the work load over the season. If he is overplayed he will burn out and disappear far too early.

 

[grandeacm2]

Not even kinda close to our worse signing...

Free transfers contracts are different- he made 3.5 million per year over a 4 year deal. Obviously he hasn't done shit for us, and that's 14 million (28 gross?), so no one is arguing it was a good move, but there are plenty of moves where we paid a transfer fee and the player has flopped that have cost the club more

Mattia Calarda was 35 million and played 1 Serie A game total
Andrea Conte cost 24 plus Pessina, and gave us nothing
We sold Paquetà at an 18 million loss
Chuks has 4 goals in 50 Serie A games vs 2 in 27 for Origi, so virtually identical rates, but cost over 20 million and has a similar contract, so costs more in total vs production

I can go on.

Origi was clearly a huge miss, but I think how bad the cost of the mistake was gets overstated

Conti shouldn't be in this list. That was a good transfer that we just got unlucky with the injury.
Caldara was the same.

When I think bad transfers I think: Acerbi/Traore/Constant in 2012, Djamel Mesbah, Alessandro Matri for 12m shit like that.
If you go back to the banter era you will find so many bad bad transfers.
CDK recently was a bad signing that we overpaid for, and Bonucci was a big diappointment.