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I don't rate Reijn as a player but this seems unfair to him
On that twitter vid interview I saw of him he looked sorry to be leaving Milan judging by his facial expression

I wish Tij does well at City, but not too well, I don't want City to win the CL again

He got double his wages, and in his words "has finally achieved his dream to play in the Prem... and for a team where he can more quickly achieve his goals"

Ya, he sounded devastated.
 

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Trying to quit is the hardest thing I've ever tried to do. I did it once from 2009 to 2012 but in a moment of deep depression went back to it. The addiction is strong even though it could cost you your life, and I don't drink or do drugs. There are times when smoking is pleasant, like after a meal, but most of the times it doesn't even taste good and I look at the cigarette and hate myself.

Switch to rolling tobacco...much better than those little cancer sticks.
 

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I can forgive berlu but never Galliani
They both share the blame for the decline since B left the club in G's hands
B also sold us to Li who was broke, when he could have sold us to Man City owner 10 years earlier
I wonder if we'll ever find out the story of why B decided to sell to a broke Chinese
The suitors who wanted to buy us in 2015 were also pretty shocking to say the least, apart from Li the only one I remember was Bee Taechaubol
I guess Serie A was just not attractive anymore in 2015 compared to 2007

For me I don't even think of it in terms of there being anything to forgive
Shit just happens and when I look back at it now I think of it back on an analytical view
I don't have an emotional reaction to it whatsoever

It's not worth it for me to waste my energy in being upset about the past, because I know I will have to save my energy to rage about the future anyways 🤣
There will probably always be something for me to be mad about as long as I support Bbeelan, especially if we sign a fodder like Xhaka :g:
 

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He got double his wages, and in his words "has finally achieved his dream to play in the Prem... and for a team where he can more quickly achieve his goals"

Ya, he sounded devastated.
Did you watch that twitter vid that got posted?
Maybe you're not good at interpreting emotions as I am, but it was very clear to me that Tij seemed kinda down
I don't care about some PR words he said, and just because he dreamed of playing in PL doesn't mean he didn't enjoy his time here or that he wanted to leave
Milan generally has always been an environment that most players who joined loved so I'm not surprised that Tij seemed sad to be leaving in the vid

Reijn signed that contract extension when we were on 9th place and is a likeable guy
I don't rate him as a player but I can't hate him

As for Shitbird they can fuck off
 

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The reasons bums like Theo were able to get away with murder, no leadership.
Milan tries to sign leaders (who can still ball) and we're upset? :lol:

Why even entertain discussions when all you need to say is "no matter what this mgmt does, I won't approve... but i still have no issue defending losing 200M of players for 0, and finishing 5th after a scudetto" ?

Everyone makes mistakes. Can you not find solace in the fact that mgmt has already owned up to two BIG mistakes, and secured tare and allegri... and are now trying to clean up the lack of leadership that the moron owner thought Zlatan could provide?

When you love players more than the club this is what happens.

Barca have a similar disease with messi fans
 

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How many Ballon D'or players played for Milan? 6-7?
Am counting them right now

Rivera
MVB
Gullit
JPP
Weah
Shevchenko
Rivaldo
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho

That is 9 Ballon D'or players who played for Milan, maybe I am missing out on somebody but I don't think I am
I also think Maldini should have won '94 because 93/94 we let in so few goals and we won Serie A with 36 goals in 34 matches scored and only 15 conceded throghout the entire season
Stoichkov winning it was a joke, almost as bad as Sammer winning '96 Ballon over Ronaldo by one single vote

Like @Swagotelli said I would probably not end up a Milan fan if not for Berlusconi, maybe I wouldn't have even watched football to begin with

Unlike @Soldier_of_god who holds onto grudges, I'm very quick to forgive
Yes there are regrets about past mistakes Milan did that I sometimes think about and I was pissed about at the time but I'm not mad about them anymore and a lot of it I've basically forgotten until somebody reminds me
The only grudges I really hold onto are the times when we were refballed by other teams, I can't stand unfairness like that so those always stick out in my mind
I thought they meant balon d'or in a season played at Milan like Rivera in 1969 while Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, etc won when playing elsewhere.
 

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Claudia Cardinale and Monica Bellucci are stunning... and the most famous among them all. Sophia Loren, I get the hype over her, but no.
Sophia was probably the best actress and the most beloved by Italians, but not the most beautiful.
 

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I thought they meant balon d'or in a season played at Milan like Rivera in 1969 while Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, etc won when playing elsewhere.
Well you brought up JPP who won it at Marseille in 1991 so that's why I listed evey Ballon D'or winner who played for us

I reckon Nordahl would have won one if Ballon D'or was a thing in his prime
 

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Sneijder cost money and Flamini came on a free that's why
Bosman has been a cancer to Milan
Galliani was addicted to getting players for free and not thinking about the huge salaries he would have to then give them

Btw Inter got Sneijder for 15 million in the same season we got Hunter for 17.75 million
Now that was a real failure
The obsession with strikers was real back then ISTG
Sneijder should have been included in the Kaka deal.
Same as Drogba in the Sheva.
But for that you need a shrewd SD & G wasnt that.
 

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How many Ballon D'or players played for Milan? 6-7?
Am counting them right now

Rivera
MVB
Gullit
JPP
Weah
Shevchenko
Rivaldo
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho

That is 9 Ballon D'or players who played for Milan, maybe I am missing out on somebody but I don't think I am
I also think Maldini should have won '94 because 93/94 we let in so few goals and we won Serie A with 36 goals in 34 matches scored and only 15 conceded throghout the entire season
Stoichkov winning it was a joke, almost as bad as Sammer winning '96 Ballon over Ronaldo by one single vote

Like @Swagotelli said I would probably not end up a Milan fan if not for Berlusconi, maybe I wouldn't have even watched football to begin with

Unlike @Soldier_of_god who holds onto grudges, I'm very quick to forgive
Yes there are regrets about past mistakes Milan did that I sometimes think about and I was pissed about at the time but I'm not mad about them anymore and a lot of it I've basically forgotten until somebody reminds me
The only grudges I really hold onto are the times when we were refballed by other teams, I can't stand unfairness like that so those always stick out in my mind
Kaká
 

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Well you brought up JPP who won it at Marseille in 1991 so that's why I listed evey Ballon D'or winner who played for us

I reckon Nordahl would have won one if Ballon D'or was a thing in his prime
I probably didn't explain it well enough but meant that a player fresh from balon d'or award the season before didn't produce as expected and was sold after two seasons. Had a great career overall, thougr
 

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Still no news on Musah. I'm getting slightly nervous.
If they don't conclude it by the end of the week it probably won't be done. I actually find it surprising that a club is willing to spend over 20 million for Musah. If Conte wants him it must mean that sees somehing in him that we missed.
 

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If they don't conclude it by the end of the week it probably won't be done. I actually find it surprising that a club is willing to spend over 20 million for Musah. If Conte wants him it must mean that sees somehing in him that we missed.

We're playing heardball for the player which means we know there's something there. He was scouted because there is something there.

If Conte has wanted him this bad for this long (this goes back months now) then I'd be hesitant to sell, provided Max wants to keep him.

But I like that we're making Napoli pony up... Mgmt playing it well, they KNOW Conte re-signed w the assurance he'd get what he wants
 

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Sneijder should have been included in the Kaka deal.
Same as Drogba in the Sheva.
But for that you need a shrewd SD & G wasnt that.
Thought you hated me?
Oh well whatever

Abramovich offered us 73 mil + Crespo for Sheva in 2005 or 2004 but we rejected and in the end he went later to Chelsea for less than that
I wonder if Mourinho would have given Drogba to us since he always seemed like a favorite for Mou, we could have tried for Robben at the time though since Mourinho didn't like him
I'm not sure if we could have gotten 65 mil + Sneijder for Kaka at the time since CR went for 94 million, but Hunter was the wrong choice back then for sure

Robben could have been another player we could have gotten from Real Madrid, Bayern paid 25 mil for him the same season
--------Pato---------
Dinho-Dorf-Robben

Or if we had somehow gotten both Sneijder and Robben
--------Pato-----------
Dinho-Sneijder-Robben

Crazy
 

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Another Ballon D'or winner who played for Milan I forgot
Roberto Baggio
Fuck me I can't keep up with all these Ballon D'or winners who played for us
You could use ChatGPT

parameters:

unique balon d or winners who won at or before playing for the club

madrid 12
milan 11
juventus 7
barca 6

 


1. Real Madrid
12 players
  1. Alfredo Di Stéfano
  2. Raymond Kopa
  3. Luís Figo (won in 2000 at Madrid)
  4. Ronaldo Nazário (won in 1997 & 2002, joined Madrid in 2002)
  5. Fabio Cannavaro (won in 2006 at Madrid)
  6. Kaká (won 2007, joined Madrid in 2009)
  7. Michael Owen (won 2001, joined Madrid in 2004)
  8. Zinedine Zidane (won 1998, joined Madrid in 2001)
  9. Cristiano Ronaldo (won in 2008 before joining; also won at Madrid)
  10. Luka Modrić (won in 2018 at Madrid)
  11. Karim Benzema (won in 2022 at Madrid)
  12. Ricardo Kopa (1958, at Madrid)
✅ Total: 12


2. AC Milan
11 players
  1. Gianni Rivera
  2. Ruud Gullit
  3. Marco van Basten
  4. Jean-Pierre Papin
  5. Roberto Baggio
  6. George Weah
  7. Andriy Shevchenko
  8. Kaká
  9. Ronaldinho
  10. Rivaldo
  11. Ronaldo Nazário
✅ Total: 11

3. Barcelona
6 players
  1. Luis Suárez Miramontes (won 1960 before Barça)
  2. Johan Cruyff (won 1971, 1973, 1974 — first before, others at Barça)
  3. Hristo Stoichkov (won in 1994 at Barça)
  4. Rivaldo (won 1999 at Barça)
  5. Ronaldinho (won 2005 at Barça)
  6. Lionel Messi (won 2009–2021 at Barça)

✅ Total: 6

Note: Players like Figo and Ronaldo won the Ballon d’Or after leaving Barça.

Juventus
7 players

  1. Omar Sivori (won 1961 at Juve)
  2. Paolo Rossi (1982 at Juve)
  3. Michel Platini (1983, 1984, 1985 at Juve)
  4. Roberto Baggio (1993 at Juve)
  5. Zinedine Zidane (1998 at Juve)
  6. Pavel Nedvěd (2003 at Juve)
  7. Fabio Cannavaro (2006 — won after leaving Juve, does not count)
  8. Cristiano Ronaldo (won in 2008 before joining Juve in 2018)


    ✅ Total: 7


    (Previously I mistakenly included Cannavaro.)
 

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Latest news from Gazzetta is that Milan and Juve are thinking of a Theo/Vlahovic swap with no money involved, guess they're both valued at the same amount. The problem is the Serbian salary that is over 10 million a year.
 
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Latest news from Gazzetta is that Milan and Juve are thinking of a Theo/Vlahovic exchange with no money involved, guess they're both valued at the same amount. The problem is the Serbian salary that is around 10 million a year.

Dusan is definitely valued higher.
This news is likely BS, but if it did happen, they're doing a "swap" to offset the wages.

But this is another one for the dustbin, imo.
 

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When you love players more than the club this is what happens.

Barca have a similar disease with messi fans
Strange phenomena indeed.

Hating legends of your club and continually ridiculing them is equally head scratching
 

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Dusan is definitely valued higher.
This news is likely BS, but if it did happen, they're doing a "swap" to offset the wages.

But this is another one for the dustbin, imo.
As most of them are.
 

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