The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

[Soldier_of_god]

No, it was Matri over Eriksen, who was also valued at 12m back then
I was pissed when we missed out on Eriksen and he ended up at Tottenham
Allegri was the one to blame for this, he specifically requested his son from Cagliari so I can't blame G for this one too much

Pretty sure Tevez was unrelated and doubt he would have come to us at that point

While we're on the subject of Roma/Napoli, another player I was jealous about was Erik Lamela
Wanted him at Milan since scudetto season
But Milan just didn't want to sign anyone exciting
I remember the debates of Ganso vs Lamela, I wanted one of them at least but we got none

Nha 100 % it was matri over tevez

We dint sell Pato for tevez either
Cause of Barbara

 

[Australiano1980]

Galliani was incompetent. Allan jorginho strootman radja even pjanic were all there for the taking for cheap

Galliani is dead to me, when I found out in 2010, Sneijder and Flamini had the same salary.. and we were stuck with KPB as the creative midfield.

Not true, he is not dead to me, but i got pissed with him.

 

[LemonCookies]

He renewed without a fuss, played practically every minute, gave us some great moments, and never said a bad thing about the club

I feel no ill will towards him

He picked Milan over Barca to begin with

Sure, he just was never pushed out, like many have said. We’re a stepping stone for some players. It’s how it is now.

 

[forward]

So.. He both respected the club that he plays for by extending (not leaving the club at a deleverage in the market) despite same club not being on a high, and the club in turn respected him enough to sell him for a fair price?

I understand why for a Theo fan that concept will be dumbfounding

If this was a "courtesy extension", they wouldn't do a 5 year extensions. 1-2 years would be enough.

Blaming everything on the players is cute, but.
That's too much ass kissing for the management that downgraded this team to a banter era 2.0.

 

[P.Lorre]

We were offered 75M for a good player.
We missed CL.
We needed money to end the season w/positive balane=ce
The player was more than happy to go.
Theo turned down 50M and 35M offers.
It is what it is.

 

[sheva]

If this was a "courtesy extension", they wouldn't do a 5 year extensions. 1-2 years would be enough.

Blaming everything on the players is cute, but.
That's too much ass kissing for the management that downgraded this team to a banter era 2.0.

So your point is.. The length of the contract in years and its symbolic/financial interpretation?

Funny thing is, selling players for less than their maximum potential value during berlu times would've been considered gentlemanly (happend quite a few times) and class, by not dragging the players until a Lotito esque offer comes

Now? It's a ass kiss

Moreover, you're basically bashing a money frugal ownership of underselling their assets. Based on the tonali case, that is clearly not one of their weaknesses, which leaves of with the notion of perhaps, they respected reindeer and his wishes and it was a win win situation.

But I guess blaming ineptitude rather than treating the management with fairness is more reactionary fun than a grace of patience.

And lastly, it's not like it's even coming out of your pocket (= a bayern type managerial organization). It's coming out of the pocket of an ownership which wants to flip the club. If that's the case, why are you so fuming, sir?

 

[R.Akbar]

No players named Dodo plz.

Let's keep the last drop of dignity that still remains at Milan.

Let names be name.

He can be called dodo,
Dodi, Domo, Dono

if Cafu gave his approval, i’ll submit myself

 

[forward]

So your point is.. The length of the contract in years and its symbolic/financial interpretation?

Funny thing is, selling players for less than their maximum potential value during berlu times would've been considered gentlemanly (happend quite a few times) and class, by not dragging the players until a Lotito esque offer comes

Now? It's a ass kiss

Moreover, you're basically bashing a money frugal ownership of underselling their assets. So, based on the tonali case, that is clearly not one of their weaknesses. But I guess blaming ineptitude rather than treating the management with fairness is more reactionary than a grace of patience.

And lastly, it's not like it's even coming out of your pocket (= a bayern type managerial organization). It's coming out of the pocket of an ownership which wants to flip the club. If that's the case, why are you so fuming, sir?

Not sure who you are replying to, because I've said none of the points you are trying to counter in your post.

And I am fuming because we finished top 8, played like shit, hired 2 wrong coaches, wasted money on 10 players we didn't need.
And now we have to recoup the losses by selling our best players.
And some of you are acting like it's not management's fault.

 

[sheva]

If we have tonali orphans to this day, and he's a baby-toothed grinta merchant, just imagine the lamentations RnB will have once reindeer lifts CL

"see? We could gotten another 10m from these rich shiekhs! Fuck you amerriiikkaa"

 

[CapitanoMaldini]

There are some Theo to Juve rumours circling.

Do it for Cambiaso but Allegri has a hard on for Vlahovic.

 

[sheva]

Not sure who you are replying to, because I've said none of the points you are trying to counter in your post.

And I am fuming because we finished top 8, played like shit, hired 2 wrong coaches, wasted money on 10 players we didn't need.
And now we have to recoup the losses by selling our best players.
And some of you are acting like it's not management's fault.

Continue fuming, gerry will continue owning this club

 

[Australiano1980]

If RLC leaves, Milinkovic-Savic should be his replacement. Would fit perfectly in that pragmatic Allegri's style of playing. Im not sure about Xhaka, I don't think he suits us.

 

[grandeacm2]

We also had Balon d'or Papin that was a reserve for us, Bierhoff, Tomasson also back-up. Incredible era at Milan but those days are gone, unfortunately.

How many Ballon D'or players played for Milan? 6-7?
Am counting them right now

Rivera
MVB
Gullit
JPP
Weah
Shevchenko
Rivaldo
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho

That is 9 Ballon D'or players who played for Milan, maybe I am missing out on somebody but I don't think I am
I also think Maldini should have won '94 because 93/94 we let in so few goals and we won Serie A with 36 goals in 34 matches scored and only 15 conceded throghout the entire season
Stoichkov winning it was a joke, almost as bad as Sammer winning '96 Ballon over Ronaldo by one single vote

Like @Swagotelli said I would probably not end up a Milan fan if not for Berlusconi, maybe I wouldn't have even watched football to begin with

Unlike @Soldier_of_god who holds onto grudges, I'm very quick to forgive
Yes there are regrets about past mistakes Milan did that I sometimes think about and I was pissed about at the time but I'm not mad about them anymore and a lot of it I've basically forgotten until somebody reminds me
The only grudges I really hold onto are the times when we were refballed by other teams, I can't stand unfairness like that so those always stick out in my mind

 

[Australiano1980]

Continue fuming, gerry will continue owning this club

Only because he doesn't find anyone to buy it.

 

[grandeacm2]

I remember us picking up Papin after Marseille "beat" us.

I loved that we got players from teams that beat us, at the time. But realise a lot of those moves, the players failed with us.

Rinsing Ajax after they beat us was a big dick move but we kinda ended up with jizz on our face. None of those moves really worked for us.

Was it Davids, Bogarde and Kluivert?

JPP did very well at Milan, aside from the injuries
I don't count Davids, Kluivert, Bogarde from Ajax since we got them on bosman
Bosman is what did a lot of damage to Milan when I think back on it, Milan signed a lot of crap players because they were free
A lot of free agents we signed were never successful
Karma for becoming cheap bastards I guess

 

[Soldier_of_god]

How many Ballon D'or players played for Milan? 6-7?
Am counting them right now

Rivera
MVB
Gullit
JPP
Weah
Shevchenko
Rivaldo
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho

That is 9 Ballon D'or players who played for Milan, maybe I am missing out on somebody but I don't think I am
I also think Maldini should have won '94 because 93/94 we let in so few goals and we won Serie A with 36 goals in 34 matches scored and only 15 conceded throghout the entire season
Stoichkov winning it was a joke, almost as bad as Sammer winning '96 Ballon over Ronaldo by one single vote

Like @Swagotelli said I would probably not end up a Milan fan if not for Berlusconi, maybe I wouldn't have even watched football to begin with

Unlike @Soldier_of_god who holds onto grudges, I'm very quick to forgive
Yes there are regrets about past mistakes Milan did that I sometimes think about and I was pissed about at the time but I'm not mad about them anymore and a lot of it I've basically forgotten until somebody reminds me
The only grudges I really hold onto are the times when we were refballed by other teams, I can't stand unfairness like that so those always stick out in my mind

I can forgive berlu but never Galliani

 

[R.Akbar]

Amid the Iran v Israel news flash,
Then this news comes up.

Whoever made the rumor is high,
High as fu

 

[P.Lorre]

^^^ add modric to that list soon

 

[Kmoney]

If RLC leaves, Milinkovic-Savic should be his replacement. Would fit perfectly in that pragmatic Allegri's style of playing. Im not sure about Xhaka, I don't think he suits us.

Ironically, Lazio seems to be signing RLC to replace SMS

 

[grandeacm2]

Nha 100 % it was matri over tevez

We dint sell Pato for tevez either
Cause of Barbara

I think I'm becoming a broken record but Barbara had nothing to do with Pato not leaving back then
Silvio himself blocked that transfer because Pato was his golden boy
Silvio also blocked Pirlo's sale to Chelsea in 2008

Don't think Pato would have ever recovered at PSG under Ancelotti either, sad what MilanLab did to him

 

[leaf]

Booking my flight to Poland right now

I knew you'd come around

 

[grandeacm2]

Galliani is dead to me, when I found out in 2010, Sneijder and Flamini had the same salary.. and we were stuck with KPB as the creative midfield.

Not true, he is not dead to me, but i got pissed with him.

Sneijder cost money and Flamini came on a free that's why
Bosman has been a cancer to Milan
Galliani was addicted to getting players for free and not thinking about the huge salaries he would have to then give them

Btw Inter got Sneijder for 15 million in the same season we got Hunter for 17.75 million
Now that was a real failure
The obsession with strikers was real back then ISTG

 

[Seedorf149]

There are some Theo to Juve rumours circling.

Do it for Cambiaso but Allegri has a hard on for Vlahovic.

Take Vlahovic, he is good, just not in the right environment.

 

[R.Akbar]

Sneijder cost money and Flamini came on a free that's why
Bosman has been a cancer to Milan
Galliani was addicted to getting players for free and not thinking about the huge salaries he would have to then give them

Btw Inter got Sneijder for 15 million in the same season we got Hunter for 17.75 million
Now that was a real failure
The obsession with strikers was real back then ISTG

Inter is doing exactly what Galliani did.
Their Opex is humongous, but still performs better in overall.

 

[Massaro94]

Whats the point of buying young and developing them only to sell for profit?

 

[grandeacm2]

We were offered 75M for a good player.
We missed CL.
We needed money to end the season w/positive balane=ce
The player was more than happy to go.
Theo turned down 50M and 35M offers.
It is what it is.

I don't rate Reijn as a player but this seems unfair to him
On that twitter vid interview I saw of him he looked sorry to be leaving Milan judging by his facial expression

I wish Tij does well at City, but not too well, I don't want City to win the CL again

 

[Soldier_of_god]

I don't rate Reijn as a player but this seems unfair to him
On that twitter vid interview I saw of him he looked sorry to be leaving Milan judging by his facial expression

I wish Tij does well at City, but not too well, I don't want City to win the CL again

Same. Fuck city.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Inter is doing exactly what Galliani did.
Their Opex is humongous, but still performs better in overall.

Except they buy smart under intelligent one eyed marotta

 

[Fabio]

It was a bit of a joke guys ;o it's not that deep
Tense atmosphere in here after the Dua Lipa vs Avril Lavinge clash

it was only 1 idiot giving his idiotic opinion.

 

[Massaro94]

On Football Italia Sarri revealed that the season out of football was very painful for him because he lost some members of his family and so didn't pay much attention to Serie A. Of Tavarez that has just renewed with Lazio until 2029 he said that he's good but anarchic and will have to work with him on that aspect.

On TransferMarket the Potroguese LB is valued at 25 million after a season in which he made 23 appearences with 0 goals and 8 assists. Started strong but missed a ton of matches due to injuries. Still a great deal for Lolito that bought him for 7 million from Arsenal. I actually prefer a more defensive minded left back, someone like De Cuyper that intrgues me, but I would do the Nuno/RLC exchange just to get rid of the Englishman.

On Rovella: "As for Rovella, I had already said that after 50 underwhelming matches he would become a top player. He lacks a bit of dribbling, but he is very strong"

On Guendouzi: "Guendouzi is a contagious animal for those who play next to him. He needs the leash because he can’t stop at 100%, he has to go further"

Sarri also said that it's probably a mistake going back to Lazio after finishing second his next to last season, guess doesn't think he can improve on that with the budget available to him. Fiorentina made a huge push for him, viola fans were excited to have him but he was already promised to Lazio and didn't want to brake his word.

I have always admired Sarri, not only because his teams play attractive football but also for his humanity, the way he speaks his truth and doesn't care what others tink of him. Even for his weakness which is his addition to smoking, (my biggest weakness as well), but his love for the beautiful game is unquestionable evinced by the fact that in his career has coached more seasons for free, or very little in the amateur ranks, than getting paid in the pros.

I remember we played Sarris empoli during 2014/15 season

They cut us open so easily...and if their forwards didn't have a combined age of 70+ they would have annihilated us in the first half.

It's the game El Nino scored for us. We were 2 down but managed to steal a draw.

That was the perfect.time to sign him. But looking back it's probably best he went to Napoli as they had a better squad and he turned them into title challengers.

Juve made a huge error getting rid of him after only one season. As did chelsea despite.him picking up silverware at both clubs.