AC Milan vs. Hellas Verona - Saturday, February 15th, 2025 - 20:45 (CET) - Serie A Round 25

[IL Maestro]

Something is not right
two supposedly easy games away against Empoli and home against Hellas Verona and you choose regular 4-4-2 with Jimenez/Sutil and Yunis Mousa
then a bit of a hard game against Feyenoord away, you choose 4-2-4 with Leao and Pulisic
as if you are trying to look bad or suffer
this season feels like a year zero season, just trying to get rid of the old players who spent too long at this team and have been broken

anybody joining before Mike seems to be let go
Leao and Theo and Tomori had trouble with Fonseca, even though the others didn't do what Leao wasn't doing such as Okafor and Pulisic but only Leao was criticized openly
Teritciano didn't do any better than Theo, he was worse against Lazio

then suddenly more than player insisting on leaving
three coaches playing with the same plan that doesn't work and they watch it not working and then they are using it again and again
you can have 3 good or bad coaches but it doesn't make any sense to have 3 successive coaches using the same plan

the most hated players are the players who are trying and failing, but how could you succeed when the team is 3-0-7 and have no space up front to pass the ball?
you are actually suffering to build up, like Gabbia against Dinamo Zaghreb which is the same that happened with Bakayoko few years back against Sassoulo and turned a 1-0 into a 1-3 loss at home and happened a lot with others too

as long as you punish who made a mistake instead of trying to fix the system, it is going to keep happening
8 CBs in the last few years and everyone has suffered and had been benched for a while, from Romangoli to Pavlovic.

 

[forward]

To the people who are having meltdowns -

Since Sergio took over, we are top 4 in the league. Only 3 points behind top 1.

Overall we are 2 points behind top 4 already (was 7 points with Fonsecca).

We have won the Supercup.
We are in the semis of Coppa.
Yes, we are underachieving in CL currently, but there's still a return leg and we fucked up due to individual errors of Musah and Mike.

 

[forward]

But crazy how he still manages to somewhat be decisive for this team.. yet they act as if he is the problem, a luxury player. As if all the other positions is covered by stars

^ This.

People act like Leao is the problem, but every time we play without him, it usually goes like this -
1 shot, 0 on target.

 

[Shiby]

Gimenez apart from the goal was not good.
He was bullied too easily and he doesn’t involve himself enough in our play to make up for that.

Reijnders and Musah were great. Far from embarrassing.

Bullshit. Santi basically assisted Musah who then embarrassed himself with the shot.

Musah luckily did better in the second but the first half was horrible.

 

[WaL]

To the people who are having meltdowns -

Since Sergio took over, we are top 4 in the league. Only 3 points behind top 1.

Overall we are 2 points behind top 4 already (was 7 points with Fonsecca).

We have won the Supercup.
We are in the semis of Coppa.
Yes, we are underachieving in CL currently, but there's still a return leg and we fucked up due to individual errors of Musah and Mike.

I like u, positive thinking dude in a sea of negativity.

 

[Caladan]

^ This.

People act like Leao is the problem, he every time we play without him, it usually goes like this -
1 shot, 0 on target.

Our attack does not exist without Puli and Leao. If they don't have enough fuel it is disaster. Sottil have good moment yesterday. At least he can do dangerous crosses.

 

[milanator]

Our attack does not exist without Puli and Leao. If they don't have enough fuel it is disaster. Sottil have good moment yesterday. At least he can do dangerous crosses.

I am most disappointed by Felix, he is trying but imo he really throws the balance off. He kinda stands in the way of Pulisic, Leao, Gimenez and Reijnders without being a true playmaker or some other kind of focal point.

 

[leaf]

I don't know about others, but I criticize Leao because I expect a lot from him. In my mind he's almost there as a balon dor level player. When I see him not fixing the few flaws in his game I get really frustrated because he's so close to being unstoppable. I don't expect the same from anyone else and maybe it's unfair that he's held to that standard, but I don't want to give up and just expect mediocrity from him.

He's playing an ok season so far. 15 g/a in February isn't bad at all, but I think Leao can be a lot better. We'll get there. I believe in him and in Conceicao to eventually find the right balance to make him thrive.

He can do MUCH better and has been disappointing in his decision making in from of goal. I’m not sure if it has anything to do with his injury but keeping it simple would give him a ton mo goals and it’s mind boggling why he doesn’t embrace that.

 

[leaf]

^ This.

People act like Leao is the problem, but every time we play without him, it usually goes like this -
1 shot, 0 on target.

Yup

i would say at this point he’s responsible for most of Milan’s goals. He needs to be more ruthless in front of goal and not look for the pretty highlight reel shit

But the idiot brigade will try to convince you that he’s the problem 🫥

 

[Ash]

Honestly

Felix needs to start from the bench and Reijnders should be played where he is the most effective.

Unfortunately we lost Bennacer so its no longer an option as Fofana is in rubbish form and not sure how a Musah Fofana double pivot would work.

Also, for the love of god - end the Musah as wide midfielder/winger experiment

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[SuperPippo]

Fiorentina flopped at home to Como. Big result for us.

 

[leaf]

Honestly

Felix needs to start from the bench and Reijnders should be played where he is the most effective.

Unfortunately we lost Bennacer so its no longer an option as Fofana is in rubbish form and not sure how a Musah Fofana double pivot would work.

Also, for the love of god - end the Musah as wide midfielder/winger experiment

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I am glad that there are still posters who understood that he was an asset

Problematic? Sure

 

[Hitchens]

I am glad that there are still posters who understood that he was an asset

Problematic? Sure

Let's see what Bondo can offer.

 

[MRAMG7]

To the people who are having meltdowns -

Since Sergio took over, we are top 4 in the league. Only 3 points behind top 1.

Overall we are 2 points behind top 4 already (was 7 points with Fonsecca).

We have won the Supercup.
We are in the semis of Coppa.
Yes, we are underachieving in CL currently, but there's still a return leg and we fucked up due to individual errors of Musah and Mike.

Agreed 100%. I'm actually very positive on Milan lately. Yes, we're not playing champagne football all the time but I also have to agree with Ibra recent interview. He said that not qualifying top 8 in CL hurt the team a lot because SC hasn't had a week without 2 matches so he could properly prepare the team with his vision. It's been 2-4 days at a time to prepare for the next match... In fairness his only option is to 'grind' results which he has been.

Feyenoord match was a death wish. Mistake from Mike for an early goal threw off our entire game and it's never easy to then come back on a slippery surface with them defending and counter attacking with capable wingers. I think we do the job at San Siro imo.

 

[Australiano1980]

I am more worried that we miss making our part, than Lazio, Juventus and Fiorentina getting screwed this weekend.

I liked the game against Verona, against tight defenses is like this. We just have to score, the boys did the job.

Everything went well. Three points, if hasn't for Juventus getting a goal, it would have been a perfect weekend.

 

[jawz10]

I don't know about others, but I criticize Leao because I expect a lot from him. In my mind he's almost there as a balon dor level player. When I see him not fixing the few flaws in his game I get really frustrated because he's so close to being unstoppable. I don't expect the same from anyone else and maybe it's unfair that he's held to that standard, but I don't want to give up and just expect mediocrity from him.

He's playing an ok season so far. 15 g/a in February isn't bad at all, but I think Leao can be a lot better. We'll get there. I believe in him and in Conceicao to eventually find the right balance to make him thrive.

My problem is I don’t believe in him. I don’t believe he will fix the flaws in his game because it’s not a priority for him. See Daniel Maldini quote. He’s a good player who could be great but he won’t because he doesn’t care enough. It’s not that he doesn’t care, he just doesn’t care enough. To get to the professional level, you have to have at least something special. Some are especially smart, some are especially consistent, some are tall, some are fast, some are technical, some outwork everyone, and some have “talent”. Talent is a dangerous gift. No one knows what it is, but you know it when you see it. When you have talent, things that are difficult for most are easy for you. When you learn that you’re talented, it makes you believe you’re inherently special and that you don’t have to do anything else to succeed. You never learn how to suffer, to grow, and how to fix things that aren’t working… so I don’t believe in Rafa.

 

[Goodfella]

Gimenez has been feeding off scraps but has scored twice and assisted once in the 4 games he has played for us.

Long road ahead but the experts on here have told me he’s fodder, so…

I think we're all preparing ourselves for disappointment, after seeing so many strikers come here and flop.
Some failed immediately, whereas others had bright or promising starts(Piatek, Higuain, Kalinic, Morata) only to turn out horrific in the end.

He has converted his chances, but the Feyenoord game also showed the floor is really low.
I really hope we've found our long-term striker, but for now he's just a Viernes.

 

[brk]

then a bit of a hard game against Feyenoord away, you choose 4-2-4 with Leao and Pulisic

Look at the available squad and tell me how you would field an alternative lineup.

Some people were suggesting Thiaw in midfield. That was probably the only alternative, and it wasn’t really the best moment to experiment.

 

[IL Maestro]

Look at the available squad and tell me how you would field an alternative lineup.

Some people were suggesting Thiaw in midfield. That was probably the only alternative, and it wasn’t really the best moment to experiment.

Terracciano played as a CM before a couple of times and was better than playing as LB
Chukwueze is a winger who could defend and could play as a CM as well
Pulisic, not ideal as a CM but still better than RLC in the midfield
4-2-4 doesn't work, you aren't going to get the ball back so you are playing with 4 players out of the game and when it reaches your box you are going to need time to build an attack and it wouldn't work either because there are four players in the attack that won't help with the build up.

 

[brk]

Chukwueze is a winger who could defend and could play as a CM as well

@Samaldinho we should try this for the next derby.

 

[Ash]

Let's see what Bondo can offer.

Unless Bondo can magically play the role of a deep lying playmaker, I doubt it.

Plus, we still have that problem in the CL as Bondo is not in the list

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