Andriy Shevchenko Thread

[Soldier_of_god]

That liverpool team we played against in 05 was pretty overrated

 

[Allan_Sombrero]

That liverpool team we played against in 05 was pretty overrated

I can't stand Liverpool and especially that fucking diver Gerrard. I'm glad we got our revenge in 2007 and karma got back at him last year.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Technically we Should have won 3 ucl titles. Maybe 4, hell, that loss to that roided up deportivo side. As if we would lose to bloody monaco and porto lel.

 

[Massaro94]

That liverpool team we played against in 05 was pretty overrated

I meant the Milan side lol... FFS liverpool had jimmy traore, baros and harry kewl

Technically we Should have won 3 ucl titles. Maybe 4, hell, that loss to that roided up deportivo side. As if we would lose to bloody monaco and porto lel.

Indeed.... we could have made it to 5 finals on the bounce... remember 2006.

Just glad we exacted revenge in the final of 2007 ....

 

[Massaro94]

I can't stand Liverpool and especially that fucking diver Gerrard. I'm glad we got our revenge in 2007 and karma got back at him last year.

Thank you Ba. You saved us

 

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Thank you Ba. You saved us

He watches over us all

 

[Sorriso Sempre]

Technically we Should have won 3 ucl titles. Maybe 4, hell, that loss to that roided up deportivo side. As if we would lose to bloody monaco and porto lel.

potentially 2003-2007 we had tge best squad and coach and we couls have won every CL.

2003 we won it and we were better than jube
2004 we lost 4-0 after winning 4-1,,,maybe ortega sold half his empire to before the match...
2005 by far the better squad of all these years.sheva and crespo at theri very best.pirlo gattuso seedorf at their best form(together) and kaka started firing at full cylinders....
2006 we all know what happened with uefalona and that disgraceful puyol
2007 justice came back even though we were far from best team...we had that grit to win a game against anyone when it mattered.

i mean with 1-2 smart transfers to rejuvenate the team(like buying essien to fit in slowly with seedorf and pirlo and rest gennaro) we could have won all of them and skyrocket our brand and our fame.

now if you want to build a squad of equal football value u ll need at least 500-600 m and ofc luck with the team chemistry+ one wc coach

 

[Soldier_of_god]

we should have won 4 ucl titles, not 2 during carlo's tenure. Still love carlo though .

 

[Allan_Sombrero]

potentially 2003-2007 we had tge best squad and coach and we couls have won every CL.

2003 we won it and we were better than jube
2004 we lost 4-0 after winning 4-1,,,maybe ortega sold half his empire to before the match...
2005 by far the better squad of all these years.sheva and crespo at theri very best.pirlo gattuso seedorf at their best form(together) and kaka started firing at full cylinders....
2006 we all know what happened with uefalona and that disgraceful puyol
2007 justice came back even though we were far from best team...we had that grit to win a game against anyone when it mattered.

i mean with 1-2 smart transfers to rejuvenate the team(like buying essien to fit in slowly with seedorf and pirlo and rest gennaro) we could have won all of them and skyrocket our brand and our fame.

now if you want to build a squad of equal football value u ll need at least 500-600 m and ofc luck with the team chemistry+ one wc coach

we should have won 4 ucl titles, not 2 during carlo's tenure. Still love carlo though .

What an amazing team we had if we would have won those 4 CL that feat would have not been repeated again, especially in this new era.

The 2005 final will always hurt. We were winning and dominated but still ended up losing

 

[Massaro94]

we should have won 4 ucl titles, not 2 during carlo's tenure. Still love carlo though .

Gotta love Carlo. Such a chilled out dude.

 

[Sven]

2 trophies and 3 finals in 5 years is already fantastic. There's no should here.

Other teams get a vote.

 

[Tantalis]

05 is pretty much still an open wound, but you cant knock liverpool. what they did was a miracle. It would hurt much more if we never got our revenge in 07.

06 robbed by uefalona. its such a clear goal that the video was removed by uefa on youtube. milan would have won the tourney no doubt.

 

[Allan_Sombrero]

2 trophies and 3 finals in 5 years is already fantastic. There's no should here.

Other teams get a vote.

You're being too nice Sven. We AC Milan should have won them 4 trophies forget the other teams.

05 is pretty much still an open wound, but you cant knock liverpool. what they did was a miracle. It would hurt much more if we never got our revenge in 07.

06 robbed by uefalona. its such a clear goal that the video was removed by uefa on youtube. milan would have won the tourney no doubt.

Funny thing is I saw that they removed the video when I went to look for it yesterday. Xavi must have complained about it to UEFA

 

[Sven]

That goal would take us to extra time and it was a close tie.

Also, Arsenal was no pushover

 

[Allan_Sombrero]

That goal would take us to extra time and it was a close tie.

Also, Arsenal was no pushover

We could of beaten them both

But that Arsenal team was very good with Henry, Hleb, Pires, Fabregas, Cole, and Campbell. However, between Barcelona and Arsenal; Arsenal was the easier of the two teams if Milan would have played Arsenal in that final.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

We would have destroyed arsenal no doubt. Forget the disallowed goal against uefalona, we would have certainly won the ucl in 03 if that deportivo side had not been infused with drugs. Deportivo would never have been able to beat us through fair means that year cause we had a stacked team.

 

[Massaro94]

We would have destroyed arsenal no doubt. Forget the disallowed goal against uefalona, we would have certainly won the ucl in 03 if that deportivo side had not been infused with drugs. Deportivo would never have been able to beat us through fair means that year cause we had a stacked team.

Swagger is all of this in relation to that spanish doctor.. Fuentes

 

[Soldier_of_god]

To an extent but just look at their team. They had some washed up midfielders who outran all our star players. It isnt remotely possible for those past it players to perform so well and turn around a huge deficit without taking EPO or any other performance enhancing drug.

 

[Allan_Sombrero]

To an extent but just look at their team. They had some washed up midfielders who outran all our star player. It isnt remotely possible for those past it players to perform so well and turn around a huge deficit without EPO or any other performance enhancing drug.

I agree. They were taking something because in the first leg they played NOTHING like they did in the second. Also, the average age of the Deportivo team was like 32 and they were running around and pressuring in the last minutes like they were 20 year old kids.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

They definitely doped. Btw i read an article abouy helenio herrera's team. Apparently, he forced many of his players to take performance enhancing drugs. At the time, they dint have the technology to actually conduct periodic doping tests on a regular basis and the technology wasnt advanced enough to identify the disintegrated properties of these performance enhancing substances. Hence, helenio was absolved from any sort of blame whatsoever.

 

[Allan_Sombrero]

They definitely doped. Btw i read an article abouy helenio herrera's team. Apparently, he forced many of his players to take performance enhancing drugs. At the time, they dint have the technology to actually conduct periodic doping tests on a regular basis and the technology wasnt advanced enough to identify the disintegrated properties of these performance enhancing substances. Hence, helenio was absolved from any sort of blame whatsoever.

There was an article as well on Germany using banned performance drugs from the 1950s to 1990s. One specific drug mentioned was Pervitin, which was originally used on Nazi soldiers to make them fight longer and harder. Franz Beckenbauer's world cup winning team was mentioned as well as Joachim Loew in the 80s. Honestly I'm sure many players doped back in the day too but like you said there was no means of accurately determining if they had a certain chemical in their system. Including Herrera's team, I think the teams that consecutively won the world cup or CL had to take some performance enhancing drug.

 

[Sorriso Sempre]

There was an article as well on Germany using banned performance drugs from the 1950s to 1990s. One specific drug mentioned was Pervitin, which was originally used on Nazi soldiers to make them fight longer and harder. Franz Beckenbauer's world cup winning team was mentioned as well as Joachim Loew in the 80s. Honestly I'm sure many players doped back in the day too but like you said there was no means of accurately determining if they had a certain chemical in their system. Including Herrera's team, I think the teams that consecutively won the world cup or CL had to take some performance enhancing drug.

even today they use drugs.the top pharmaceutical firms have drugs which cant be found(at least they are not banned atm)


also epo and insulin if not taken at huge quantities can help you a lot (and i mean really lot) still keeping you legal.

 

[Tantalis]

bunch of untested preworkout drugs as well.

 

[joyrider]

even today they use drugs.the top pharmaceutical firms have drugs which cant be found(at least they are not banned atm)


also epo and insulin if not taken at huge quantities can help you a lot (and i mean really lot) still keeping you legal.

all epoietins can always be found even in small quantities, they know that because they check the players for many many yrears

insuline too, because immunoassays tests can show external intake of all insulines types

biggest challenge for wada is genetherapy, explenation of genetherapy


doping has been around since before the days of sparta you nincompoops

 

[Sorriso Sempre]

all epoietins can always be found even in small quantities, they know that because they check the players for many many yrears

insuline too, because immunoassays tests can show external intake of all insulines types

biggest challenge for wada is genetherapy, explenation of genetherapy


doping has been around since before the days of sparta you nincompoops

thts why they cought armstrong not by tests but by another athlete testimony ?

 

[joyrider]

thts why they cought armstrong not by tests but by another athlete testimony ?

did WADA tests armstrong?

those test methods are outdated.....a lot has improved since then

 

[Sorriso Sempre]

did WADA tests armstrong?

those test methods are outdated.....a lot has improved since then

idk who tested him.

what i know bro is that doping is at least one step forward from anti-doping .

 

[Sheva 7]

Yesterday..

 

[joyrider]

 

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