Official: Hernan Crespo signs for AC Milan

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Passion for *9* said:
If a 28-year old doesn't speak the language that is spoken at his future club he should fuckin attend a crash course during the summer + learn it.

I'm tired of how willing people are to cut slack to professionals whose job might involve setting up residence in a foreign country. Getting adjusted to new surroundings is part of the job + I expect those people to get their butt up + deal with the minor probs they will encounter.. Adaptation probs... my ass ! Players are virtually taken by their hand + guided by the club, they don't have to deal with bureaucracy, nothing... all they need to do is get their ass on the pitch on time for training + matches.

Crespo however had nothing better to do than whine throughout the year about how hard he finds it to adapt, what a sissy. I thought he knew what he was doing when he signed his friggin contract. And coming to terms with the fact that past merits count little + competition is maybe bigger than at previous clubs also is an issue that normally should be given some thought beforehand. I don't cut him slack, I'm tired of hearing all these excuses for him not being able to settle in London.

By the way, he not only had a mediocre-to-bad year at Chelsea, he had a rather unimpressive season at Inter (apart from the CL) + a rather unimpressive season at Lazio before that. Yea.. reality check, people: It's been a while since his capocanoniere days ! :o

Any of the young players I mentioned would have served Milan a lot more than this repulsive money-grubbing tamarro :o

What makes you so angry? And for that matter, bad at reading posts :D I never made excuses for Crespo I just said what people say was a "flop" was actually a decent goalscoring season in a situation he hadn't faced for a while if at all. Indeed his quality is such that people (even himself maybe) view a one in two goal record as a nightmarish or mediocre season.

Honestly, some people claim that Pippo gets bashed in threads not about him etc, but until those people stop using their love for our number 9 as the foundation of all their football opinion then it will always be an issue. I mean how transparent and insecure can you get? You don't hear Shevchenko fans crying out against Crespo for fear that the Argentine might eclipse him.

And Passion your main flaw in all you say about anything football related is that you always deal in the hypotheticals, i.e signings that will never be made for Milan would have been better ones; and it's not a strong position.

Then there are times when your football logic seems almost like a goldfish (they have a memory of 3 secs) and those who you think Milan should buy are those who have had a great last few months. With your money we would have more one hit wonders than European pop music has had since the sixties.

I must warn you if Stam and Crespo are successes this season you will look like a prized vegetable and I'll remind you of it daily.

Remember your "Dump Seedorf Alliance" :D What followed was a magnificent winning streak over three months where Clarence ran rings around the Roma midfield at the Olimpico, scored two in Turin and beat Toldo from 30 yards in the derby. :tongue:

On second thoughts Hernan and Jaap must be delighted by your lack of confidence in their abilities :D
 

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Listen menon, a player has to adapt or play for his hometown team for the rest of his life. Period. It's part of the job + he only moved within Europe + whether during his vacation time or 2 days into pre-season is completely irrelevant.

It was Crespo who signed the contract, nobody made him sign pointing a gun to his head. He had no hesitations to pocket an out-of-this-world salary but then can't handle a bit of pressure + a couple of minimal changes ??? Don't make me laugh even harder ! A true worldclass player can handle this + thrives on the challenge. Crespo however is a lazybutt dolce vita loving sissy. He knew Mourinho would take no shit from him + he also knew how to 'work' Ancelotti.

Another year.. another club.. + some easy money in between... that's the whore Crespo. Now he is a Milan player for a year but it doesn't make him untouchable nor does it change my opinion of him. Pippo didn't become your fave player either when he joined Milan. You have your least liked players, I have mine.

End of message.
 

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Passion for *9* said:
mikez sheva7 said:
All arguments aside, I think we can all agree that this is the best striker foursome in the world at the moment. No other team has four world-class strikers in their team like Milan.
...Can anyone answer my questions in my previous post about Crespo's loan situation, wages, and number? I would really appreciate that.

On his wages I've heard 2 different versions:

a) 3,5 million EUR per year, 2 paid by Milan 1,5 by Chelsea
b) 5,5 million (= his Chelsea salary) minus 10% that he forfeits, 50% paid by Milan, 40% by Chelsea

Yesterday www.tgcom.it reported '1-year loan with NO option to buy'. No word yet on 'the real deal'.

My take on his #............... 11.

Damn, I thought he might wear number "9"!

Oh well, anyway those wage scenarios sound like a great deal for Milan. Good luck to Crespo this season! He is a quality player.
 

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Passion for *9* said:
On his wages I've heard 2 different versions:

a) 3,5 million EUR per year, 2 paid by Milan 1,5 by Chelsea
b) 5,5 million (= his Chelsea salary) minus 10% that he forfeits, 50% paid by Milan, 40% by Chelsea

Yesterday www.tgcom.it reported '1-year loan with NO option to buy'. No word yet on 'the real deal'.

My take on his #............... 11.
although Milan didn't paid full wages, but it still big. hope he'll proveen himself fit as his wages
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I am going to draw my line in the sand and surprise, surprise it is contrary to Passion for *9*'s point of view:


Crespo will be a success for Milan this coming season

Whatever Crespo says he hasn't come to Milan to sit on the bench and Ancelotti won't have made a request for the player for nothing either.
i wont be sure about that :head:, altough he still good but IMO his not as great as his Parma days :(. but i hopping he'll do great at Milan. and he also doesn't mind if his not hte first option striker :tongue:.
I am SuperPippo fan and i can't see any reason why someone have to welcome Crespo by only bashing at SuperPippo.But give the respect to Pippo which he deserves.Doesn't matter he is your personal favourite or not.Crespo and JDT aren't my personal favourites at all but i respect them.Why can't you?
yeah i agree with you there, although i didn't like Pippo for his off-side, diving, etc. i put my respect on him
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, cause he has given big contrubution for Milan :D.
 

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Dear Passion for *9*

By all means you are allowed to express you opinions, and I am allowed to dissagree with them. I can only hope that you don't get upset ond/or offended. RESPECT!

Herman Crespo obviously didn't have his season of a lifetime last year.
But I stand by my (and many other people's opinion) that Crespo was definatly NOT a flop at chelsea.
2 facts:
1.Crespo came in from the bench at chelsea because chelsea bought players without thinking and I one time had something like 6 or 7 top quality strikers.
2.Crespo was let go by chelsea because of the reason above as well as the fact that he didn't get on with the new coach who will /is bringing more new players that he likes. anyway Chelsea didn't actually let him go they just loan-ed him out for a season.

Quote Passion for *9*:
"Your standards are pretty low as long as you 'like' the player..."

hahahha... that is funny... as I support AC Milan -the team I try not too love one players only... and I tend to have and objective view on all players inclueding the ones from Inter. SO you are very very wrong in your opinion. (like you are very often) ...and... you also contradict yourself...

Its not wrong by all means to be passionate about one player (like pippo for example) (for his football I hope.) but by all means Crespo had (even at chelsea) had a much better season that pippo... who hardly played (for whatever reason) ...also Tomasson has been great last term and at the euro ...but scoring 2 goals against bulgaria doesn't make him better that shevchenko (or crespo)

...also someone mentioned that"Crespo score's sloppy goals"... . what? who cares... as long as they go in ...look at some Pippo goals in the past.

anyway respect to passion for *9* and Pippo.

and thats againg my (objective) view on the starting order of our 4 amazing strikers:
1.Shevchenko
2.Crespo
3.Tomasson
4.Inzaghi

FORZA MILAN!!!
 

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Don't worry, we have more than enough game for every Striker. The season will start a bit late due to Olimpic, and we have 38 istead of 34 Serie matches.

Even I like Sheva most, but I feel that this year will be Crespo'one ... and Sheva have to work hard to take his pos. JDT oviously will have chance to show his ability.

Anyway, we miss one or two good wingers,

Wait and see
 

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jasiom said:
Dear Passion for *9*

By all means you are allowed to express you opinions, and I am allowed to dissagree with them. I can only hope that you don't get upset ond/or offended. RESPECT!

Herman Crespo obviously didn't have his season of a lifetime last year.
But I stand by my (and many other people's opinion) that Crespo was definatly NOT a flop at chelsea.
2 facts:
1.Crespo came in from the bench at chelsea because chelsea bought players without thinking and I one time had something like 6 or 7 top quality strikers.
2.Crespo was let go by chelsea because of the reason above as well as the fact that he didn't get on with the new coach who will /is bringing more new players that he likes. anyway Chelsea didn't actually let him go they just loan-ed him out for a season.

Quote Passion for *9*:
"Your standards are pretty low as long as you 'like' the player..."

hahahha... that is funny... as I support AC Milan -the team I try not too love one players only... and I tend to have and objective view on all players inclueding the ones from Inter. SO you are very very wrong in your opinion. (like you are very often) ...and... you also contradict yourself...

Its not wrong by all means to be passionate about one player (like pippo for example) (for his football I hope.) but by all means Crespo had (even at chelsea) had a much better season that pippo... who hardly played (for whatever reason) ...also Tomasson has been great last term and at the euro ...but scoring 2 goals against bulgaria doesn't make him better that shevchenko (or crespo)

...also someone mentioned that"Crespo score's sloppy goals"... . what? who cares... as long as they go in ...look at some Pippo goals in the past.

anyway respect to passion for *9* and Pippo.

and thats againg my (objective) view on the starting order of our 4 amazing strikers:
1.Shevchenko
2.Crespo
3.Tomasson
4.Inzaghi

FORZA MILAN!!!

Very good post. :)
 

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Passion for *9* said:
Listen menon, a player has to adapt or play for his hometown team for the rest of his life. Period. It's part of the job + he only moved within Europe + whether during his vacation time or 2 days into pre-season is completely irrelevant.

It was Crespo who signed the contract, nobody made him sign pointing a gun to his head. He had no hesitations to pocket an out-of-this-world salary but then can't handle a bit of pressure + a couple of minimal changes ??? Don't make me laugh even harder ! A true worldclass player can handle this + thrives on the challenge. Crespo however is a lazybutt dolce vita loving sissy. He knew Mourinho would take no shit from him + he also knew how to 'work' Ancelotti.

Another year.. another club.. + some easy money in between... that's the whore Crespo. Now he is a Milan player for a year but it doesn't make him untouchable nor does it change my opinion of him. Pippo didn't become your fave player either when he joined Milan. You have your least liked players, I have mine.

End of message.

a bit of preasure?...tht just goes to show..ur footballing knowledge at its best...none of the players chelsea signed last year...performered at their best.....crespo,mutiu,veron,joe cole....duff..n the list goes on.....only players tht have been regular thr like lampard...had a really good season......pippo didnt become...my fav player...but i still respect him as a player..n dont go around...calling him a whore.........like u do....ppl here...use inzaghi as an example....cuz of u...to show u the dif between the players......crespo had his probe wif injurys last year..so he didnt have the season of his life.....inzaghi had his probes wif injury 2 last year....ru saying he had a flop season 2?......not many ppl out there are willing to be a 4th striker...n fight for their place...crespo is...cuz he has faith in his own ability..n he knows ancelotti knows how to bring on the best in him....thats it
 
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i dont think crespo in milan is such a good idea.. i mean, why him??
why cant we get someone else? can somebody answer this quest.. dont simply say because he is compatible with ancelotti.. come on.. if he is so bond to ancelotti, why only now he revealed his interest to join milan?? :conf:

i read somewhere before that crespo said tht he loves chelsea.. it goes like this :

Crespo To Stay With Chelsea

7/8/2004
4:53:00 PM

Hernan Crespo has cut out the rumours about his possible return to Serie A, when in an English newspaper he pledged his future with Chelsea.
The Argentinean striker, who did not have a very good first season in London, was in the centre of transfer speculations as Milan have tried to bring the former Lazio player back to Italy.

However Crespo himself declared that he is not going to leave his current club and wants to be given more chances this year to prove his worth.

"I love Chelsea," said Crespo, "And I'm going to continue working in London. It's hard when you train alot and you are not given chances; I hope that this year does not happen so. I don't want to leave, I want to fight for this shirt also next season."

then why the heck did he left chelsea?? doesnt he love chelsea anymore??
whats wrong with this guy anyway..?? obviously, he's not loyal.. :head: i think all he cares about is money.. but since chelsea bought kezman, he must have felt left out and suddenly wants to return to italy.. haha.. :o if only he thought bout the consequences of joining chelsea (having a boss who likes to buy players and sack his coach) before he moved to chelsea.. :o then i dont think he'll leave italy for sure..

so, my 1st impression on this guy is definitely NOT GOOD because he's not loyal to his current club + didnt think twice before joining chelsea and who knows what's gonna be next?? i have a feeling that he's gonna have a not-so-good time in milan like rivaldo did.. but i REALLY hope that im wrong on this..

anyways, crespo joined milan as the 4th striker, not as 1st or 2nd.. it means that he'll have to prove that he's worth it, before even thinking having a place in the strating line-up.. so, milan will still fancy our two most trustworthy strikers, sheva & inzaghi.. they have done so much for milan despite having bad seasons separately.. and thats why these 2 deserved to start in the starting line-up.. so crespo will have to wait his turn in the 1st eleven, as he is a new recruit.. i hope ancelotti will choose his 1st eleven wisely, not based only on his fav. players like crespo! :o
 

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xmon87 said:
i read somewhere before that crespo said tht he loves chelsea.. it goes like this :

Crespo To Stay With Chelsea

7/8/2004
4:53:00 PM

Hernan Crespo has cut out the rumours about his possible return to Serie A, when in an English newspaper he pledged his future with Chelsea.
The Argentinean striker, who did not have a very good first season in London, was in the centre of transfer speculations as Milan have tried to bring the former Lazio player back to Italy.

However Crespo himself declared that he is not going to leave his current club and wants to be given more chances this year to prove his worth.

"I love Chelsea," said Crespo, "And I'm going to continue working in London. It's hard when you train alot and you are not given chances; I hope that this year does not happen so. I don't want to leave, I want to fight for this shirt also next season."

then why the heck did he left chelsea?? doesnt he love chelsea anymore??
whats wrong with this guy anyway..?? obviously, he's not loyal.. :head: i think all he cares about is money..

Crespo at Milanello, one week after pledging his allegiance to Chelsea:

"Indosso la maglia dei sogni" - "I wear the shirt of my dreams"

Lip service by one of the most shameless mercenaries in the biz, and fans still fall for his crap. He should just shut up + collect the money.
 

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Passion for *9* said:
xmon87 said:
i read somewhere before that crespo said tht he loves chelsea.. it goes like this :

Crespo To Stay With Chelsea

7/8/2004
4:53:00 PM

Hernan Crespo has cut out the rumours about his possible return to Serie A, when in an English newspaper he pledged his future with Chelsea.
The Argentinean striker, who did not have a very good first season in London, was in the centre of transfer speculations as Milan have tried to bring the former Lazio player back to Italy.

However Crespo himself declared that he is not going to leave his current club and wants to be given more chances this year to prove his worth.

"I love Chelsea," said Crespo, "And I'm going to continue working in London. It's hard when you train alot and you are not given chances; I hope that this year does not happen so. I don't want to leave, I want to fight for this shirt also next season."

then why the heck did he left chelsea?? doesnt he love chelsea anymore??
whats wrong with this guy anyway..?? obviously, he's not loyal.. :head: i think all he cares about is money..

Crespo at Milanello, one week after pledging his allegiance to Chelsea:

"Indosso la maglia dei sogni" - "I wear the shirt of my dreams"

Lip service by one of the most shameless mercenaries in the biz, and fans still fall for his crap. He should just shut up + collect the money.
Yes he loves more money than clubs.But if he scores a lot for Milan i dont f*** about what he thinks.
 

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Passion for *9* said:
xmon87 said:
i read somewhere before that crespo said tht he loves chelsea.. it goes like this :

Crespo To Stay With Chelsea

7/8/2004
4:53:00 PM

Hernan Crespo has cut out the rumours about his possible return to Serie A, when in an English newspaper he pledged his future with Chelsea.
The Argentinean striker, who did not have a very good first season in London, was in the centre of transfer speculations as Milan have tried to bring the former Lazio player back to Italy.

However Crespo himself declared that he is not going to leave his current club and wants to be given more chances this year to prove his worth.

"I love Chelsea," said Crespo, "And I'm going to continue working in London. It's hard when you train alot and you are not given chances; I hope that this year does not happen so. I don't want to leave, I want to fight for this shirt also next season."

then why the heck did he left chelsea?? doesnt he love chelsea anymore??
whats wrong with this guy anyway..?? obviously, he's not loyal.. :head: i think all he cares about is money..

Crespo at Milanello, one week after pledging his allegiance to Chelsea:

"Indosso la maglia dei sogni" - "I wear the shirt of my dreams"

Lip service by one of the most shameless mercenaries in the biz, and fans still fall for his crap. He should just shut up + collect the money.

money, money, money!!! it's all about this thing called money. Who won't call for it. I won't be the last person to declare "loyalty and allegiance with boots added" as any less ditchholes, which might be bigger than you think, than the shameful untrue pledged money shedding tree around the corner.

Crespo is the player, what he is. So leave him there... he's not long term here... and we might have to suffer for only a year with his misperformances... unless he has other ideas. :devil3:
 

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Passion for *9* said:
xmon87 said:
i read somewhere before that crespo said tht he loves chelsea.. it goes like this :

Crespo To Stay With Chelsea

7/8/2004
4:53:00 PM

Hernan Crespo has cut out the rumours about his possible return to Serie A, when in an English newspaper he pledged his future with Chelsea.
The Argentinean striker, who did not have a very good first season in London, was in the centre of transfer speculations as Milan have tried to bring the former Lazio player back to Italy.

However Crespo himself declared that he is not going to leave his current club and wants to be given more chances this year to prove his worth.

"I love Chelsea," said Crespo, "And I'm going to continue working in London. It's hard when you train alot and you are not given chances; I hope that this year does not happen so. I don't want to leave, I want to fight for this shirt also next season."

then why the heck did he left chelsea?? doesnt he love chelsea anymore??
whats wrong with this guy anyway..?? obviously, he's not loyal.. :head: i think all he cares about is money..

Crespo at Milanello, one week after pledging his allegiance to Chelsea:

"Indosso la maglia dei sogni" - "I wear the shirt of my dreams"

Lip service by one of the most shameless mercenaries in the biz, and fans still fall for his crap. He should just shut up + collect the money.

Wooohooo! I like his enthusiasm for the Milan shirt. With a little work in the Milan Lab and some encouragement from Ancelotti, perhaps Crespo will become rejuvenated -- just like so many other players who have come to Milan before him. Oh yeah, I can see it now, he will become our new number 9 this year! I just cannot believe we essentailly got him for free -- what an amazing deal Galliani pulled off this time! Incredible! :cool:
 

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acm7 said:
Passion for *9* said:
xmon87 said:
i read somewhere before that crespo said tht he loves chelsea.. it goes like this :

Crespo To Stay With Chelsea

7/8/2004
4:53:00 PM

Hernan Crespo has cut out the rumours about his possible return to Serie A, when in an English newspaper he pledged his future with Chelsea.
The Argentinean striker, who did not have a very good first season in London, was in the centre of transfer speculations as Milan have tried to bring the former Lazio player back to Italy.

However Crespo himself declared that he is not going to leave his current club and wants to be given more chances this year to prove his worth.

"I love Chelsea," said Crespo, "And I'm going to continue working in London. It's hard when you train alot and you are not given chances; I hope that this year does not happen so. I don't want to leave, I want to fight for this shirt also next season."

then why the heck did he left chelsea?? doesnt he love chelsea anymore??
whats wrong with this guy anyway..?? obviously, he's not loyal.. :head: i think all he cares about is money..

Crespo at Milanello, one week after pledging his allegiance to Chelsea:

"Indosso la maglia dei sogni" - "I wear the shirt of my dreams"

Lip service by one of the most shameless mercenaries in the biz, and fans still fall for his crap. He should just shut up + collect the money.

Wooohooo! I like his enthusiasm for the Milan shirt. With a little work in the Milan Lab and some encouragement from Ancelotti, perhaps Crespo will become rejuvenated -- just like so many other players who have come to Milan before him. Oh yeah, I can see it now, he will become our new number 9 this year! I just cannot believe we essentailly got him for free -- what an amazing deal Galliani pulled off this time! Incredible! :cool:


err.... :conf: the dream shirt was the chelsea one, and the statement was issued a week before he decided to leave chelsea, so i don't know what you on about
 

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Wooohooo! I like his enthusiasm for the Milan shirt.

Enthusiasm for the Milan shirt ? It's called talking the talk. Just a week before he discovered his undying love for Milan he announced how much he loves Chelsea + how much he wants to play + fight for them. I bet he shits on the Milan shirt right in front of your eyes if you only pay him enough. We did not get him for free either, we pay the bigger part of his salary. And I'm still willing to bet money that there is more to the deal than what has been made public.
 

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err.... :conf: the dream shirt was the chelsea one, and the statement was issued a week before he decided to leave chelsea, so i don't know what you on about

Oh, sorry about that. I had read the preface to the dream shirt quote as "Crespo at Milanello, one week after pledging his allegiance to Chelsea:"
 

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Passion for *9* said:
The dream shirt is the rossonero one.. but his love is Chelsea. All clear now ? ;)

Thanks. BTW this is very common for players on loan -- they don't burn their bridges. To be honest. I think way too much is made of these quotes. If you want, you can easily find contradictory before and after transfer quotes for any number of players which are are seperated by a mere hours, days or weeks. Dig deep and you will find similar quotes when Sheva moved fom Dynamo to Milan or when Inzaghi moved from Verona to Piacenza; from Piacenza to Parma; from Parma to Atalanta; from Atalanta to Juventus; from Juventus to Milan. Tomasson the same thing -- that's the nature of the business and Crespo's quotes are no different than many other football players. Does it make them bad players or bad people who should be branded mercenaries and whores? I don't think so. Home grown, one team career players like Costacurta and Maldini, for example, are a very rare breed in today's football.

On the money thing, I haven't read anywhere yet that Crespo has profited financially from this loan. However, some rumors suggest that he actually took a pay cut to join Milan. I don't know if it's true or not but you can't deny that from a Milan perspective we got his services dirt cheap - essentially free I think I said previously. Under Euro 3 million wages with no upfront fees according to some posts in this thread is a great deal for Milan for a player of Crespo's quality.

Let's see what happens this season. I'm willing to bet that Crespo becomes our new number 9 just on the basis that you are so passionate about him! C'mon, admit it -- the jacket that he wore at the airport is hot, innit. Do you have a crush on him? :D
 

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acm7 said:
Passion for *9* said:
The dream shirt is the rossonero one.. but his love is Chelsea. All clear now ? ;)

Thanks. BTW this is very common for players on loan -- they don't burn their bridges. To be honest. I think way too much is made of these quotes. If you want, you can easily find contradictory before and after transfer quotes for any number of players which are are seperated by a mere hours, days or weeks.

I disagree. Such quotes are very telling of the mindset of a player. Of course he has to say something during a press conference or presentation + expressing some sort of identification + using the usual commonplace phrases if meant like it's being said (work hard, prove his worth to the team blabla) is fine by me but putting on a show that will put the phonies at an Academy Award ceremony to shame in an attempt to make the fans believe in some deep + real emotional bond is sth else + insincere, especially when coming from s.o. who changed clubs 3x in as many years + whose noise about wanting to leave Lazio after just one season there still rings loud + clear in my ears (Lazio 'had to sell him' is just another half-truth)...

acm7 said:
Dig deep and you will find similar quotes when Sheva moved fom Dynamo to Milan or when Inzaghi moved from Verona to Piacenza; from Piacenza to Parma; from Parma to Atalanta; from Atalanta to Juventus; from Juventus to Milan.

Happy digging. Neither Shevchenko nor Inzaghi changed clubs like their underwear during their prime + followed the money as blatantly as Crespo does/did.

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Crespo's quotes are no different than many other football players. Does it make them bad players or bad people who should be branded mercenaries and whores? I don't think so. Home grown, one team career players like Costacurta and Maldini, for example, are a very rare breed in today's football.

I'm not delusional, a 'bandiera' who pledges most or all of his career to one club is a dying breed. I even expect players to test themselves in more than just one club, more than just one league, if possible. Not all who do it are whores. It's the motive that makes a difference... ambition, improvement, challenges, chasing a childhood dream... or... money + convenience. It's pretty obvious what category Crespo belongs to.

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On the money thing, I haven't read anywhere yet that Crespo has profited financially from this loan. However, some rumors suggest that he actually took a pay cut to join Milan. I don't know if it's true or not but you can't deny that from a Milan perspective we got his services dirt cheap - essentially free I think I said previously. Under Euro 3 million wages with no upfront fees according to some posts in this thread is a great deal for Milan for a player of Crespo's quality.

As for his pay, I've read countless versions by now + tend to believe that Chelsea do not pay the bigger chunk of it. That's what is stated on their website. From whatever angle you look, it was the best deal Crespo could get. The alternative could have been to try to sell him but he has a valid 4-year contract with Chelsea + trying to dump him on a less affluent club would certainly have encountered a bit of resistance + I also doubt he would have been much of a hot item on the market due to his wage demands. So the solution found was the most elegant one for all parties involved. Milan were interested, yet not interested enough to buy + Chelsea don't need to bother for a year. Btw, 3 million are not a steal if you take into account Crespo spent the bigger part of the past 3 seasons injured or not performing up to expectations.

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Let's see what happens this season. I'm willing to bet that Crespo becomes our new number 9 just on the basis that you are so passionate about him! C'mon, admit it -- the jacket that he wore at the airport is hot, innit. Do you have a crush on him?

I couldn't agree more: Let's see what happens.

As for the rest,
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That's one seriously twisted post.

1) Obviously these quotes are not very telling. Putting on a show? Phony as an Academy Award ceremony? Insincere and attempting to dupe the fans into believing a deep emotional bond? Hilarious! I don't know how you come to those conclusions -- all I know from Crespo's interviews and quotes is that he is currently happy to be at Milan. There's nothing sinister about that. I mean, what is there not to like about Milan at the moment. Are you really suggesting that he is actually not happy to be at Milan and putting on an act? Give me a break.

2) Hahaha, So you think it's ok for a player to change clubs often and increase their earnings but not in the prime of their career -- some players who switch clubs and make more money are whores and some are not -- your perception of their motivation is what ultimately determines if they are a whore. Did I get that right? I'm not so clear on your logic to be honest but one thing is clear -- Crespo did not come to Milan for money and convenience.

3) Milan's share of the overall pay vs. Chelsea is meaningless as far as the discusiion is concerned. I also don't know why you keep saying that this is the best deal Crespo could get. He is ultimately contracted to Chelsea and if they want to loan him out at a loss, it their choice not Crespo's. I think what is significant is that a) obviously Crespo did not veto the deal and b) that he may have even shared the burden of Chelsea's loss by agreeing an overall lower pay. Again, money was not his motivation for the move to Milan.
 
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Hi guys, Chelsea fan here, I was just wondering what you guys thought of Crespo? Most of the Chelsea fans I know think that Hernan would explode this season in the EPL, but Mourinho loaned him out.

I'm not here to start a fight, I am kinda a milan supporter as I was born in Milan.

P.S. Don't you guys think that we should sign Gilardino? I would of prefered him to Crespo. Or maybe Pazzini from Atalanta? Give me some input please. :D
 

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Passion for *9* said:
acm7 said:
Passion for *9* said:
The dream shirt is the rossonero one.. but his love is Chelsea. All clear now ? ;)

Thanks. BTW this is very common for players on loan -- they don't burn their bridges. To be honest. I think way too much is made of these quotes. If you want, you can easily find contradictory before and after transfer quotes for any number of players which are are seperated by a mere hours, days or weeks.

I disagree. Such quotes are very telling of the mindset of a player. Of course he has to say something during a press conference or presentation + expressing some sort of identification + using the usual commonplace phrases if meant like it's being said (work hard, prove his worth to the team blabla) is fine by me but putting on a show that will put the phonies at an Academy Award ceremony to shame in an attempt to make the fans believe in some deep + real emotional bond is sth else + insincere, especially when coming from s.o. who changed clubs 3x in as many years + whose noise about wanting to leave Lazio after just one season there still rings loud + clear in my ears (Lazio 'had to sell him' is just another half-truth)...

acm7 said:
Dig deep and you will find similar quotes when Sheva moved fom Dynamo to Milan or when Inzaghi moved from Verona to Piacenza; from Piacenza to Parma; from Parma to Atalanta; from Atalanta to Juventus; from Juventus to Milan.

Happy digging. Neither Shevchenko nor Inzaghi changed clubs like their underwear during their prime + followed the money as blatantly as Crespo does/did.

acm7 said:
Crespo's quotes are no different than many other football players. Does it make them bad players or bad people who should be branded mercenaries and whores? I don't think so. Home grown, one team career players like Costacurta and Maldini, for example, are a very rare breed in today's football.

I'm not delusional, a 'bandiera' who pledges most or all of his career to one club is a dying breed. I even expect players to test themselves in more than just one club, more than just one league, if possible. Not all who do it are whores. It's the motive that makes a difference... ambition, improvement, challenges, chasing a childhood dream... or... money + convenience. It's pretty obvious what category Crespo belongs to.

acm7 said:
On the money thing, I haven't read anywhere yet that Crespo has profited financially from this loan. However, some rumors suggest that he actually took a pay cut to join Milan. I don't know if it's true or not but you can't deny that from a Milan perspective we got his services dirt cheap - essentially free I think I said previously. Under Euro 3 million wages with no upfront fees according to some posts in this thread is a great deal for Milan for a player of Crespo's quality.

As for his pay, I've read countless versions by now + tend to believe that Chelsea do not pay the bigger chunk of it. That's what is stated on their website. From whatever angle you look, it was the best deal Crespo could get. The alternative could have been to try to sell him but he has a valid 4-year contract with Chelsea + trying to dump him on a less affluent club would certainly have encountered a bit of resistance + I also doubt he would have been much of a hot item on the market due to his wage demands. So the solution found was the most elegant one for all parties involved. Milan were interested, yet not interested enough to buy + Chelsea don't need to bother for a year. Btw, 3 million are not a steal if you take into account Crespo spent the bigger part of the past 3 seasons injured or not performing up to exp

As for the rest,
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if crespo wanted money..he could have just....stayed in chelsea..n warmed the bench....y on earth would he take..a loan deal......n come to milan for the some pay....????????......its bcuz..football means a lot 2 him....n being reunited..wif carlo...and his former lazio team mates..pancaro..nesta...stam n co...could once again bring out the best in him....
 

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if crespo wanted money..he could have just....stayed in chelsea..n warmed the bench....y on earth would he take..a loan deal......n come to milan for the some pay....????????......its bcuz..football means a lot 2 him....n being reunited..wif carlo...and his former lazio team mates..pancaro..nesta...stam n co...could once again bring out the best in him....

Garbage. They apparently didn't even have use for him on the bench (they have yet to invent the job of orange peeler). It also becomes more obvious, according to some sources, that Crespo is the best-paid Milan player + Chelsea aren't the ones paying the big part of his wages, as some rumours previously suggested. Sorry to burst your Crespo-is-such-an-ungreedy-guy+just-wanted-to-play-for-Milan-cos-its-the-shirt-of-his-dreams bubble but the move was very much about money, if not, he would have agreed to be sold to any shit club wanting his services for 1million p.a.
 

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Yawn, yawn, yawn.

Crespo's going to play for Milan this season. Get used to it Passion for *9*.

Again, I've said it before, funny how Milan management don't seem to rate the players you seem to rate
 

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Passion for *9* said:
Garbage. They apparently didn't even have use for him on the bench (they have yet to invent the job of orange peeler). It also becomes more obvious, according to some sources, that Crespo is the best-paid Milan player + Chelsea aren't the ones paying the big part of his wages, as some rumours previously suggested. Sorry to burst your Crespo-is-such-an-ungreedy-guy+just-wanted-to-play-for-Milan-cos-its-the-shirt-of-his-dreams bubble but the move was very much about money, if not, he would have agreed to be sold to any shit club wanting his services for 1million p.a.

:sleep:
 

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Yawn, yawn, yawn.
Crespo's going to play for Milan this season. Get used to it Passion for *9*.
Again, I've said it before, funny how Milan management don't seem to rate the players you seem to rate

I've got used to it long ago but I'm not his PR department + I leave the sorry attempts at creating a decent image for him up to them + you. Just like you miss no chance to make your opinion about your least-liked players known I will express my opinion about players I dislike or consider overrated for whatever reason. If it makes you yawn, sleep or think whatever doesn't bug me in the least.
 

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I've got used to it long ago

Yeah, me too but probably not as long ago you. I suppose the important thing is that I do agree with you that SuperCrespo is a Milan player though. :cool: According to some sources, alot of the players seem to like him too. Kaka, for example, said he was a nice guy. :D
 

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I suppose the important thing is that I do agree with you that SuperCrespo is a Milan player though. According to some sources, alot of the players seem to like him too. Kaka, for example, said he was a nice guy. :D

We can agree that he is a TEMPORARY Milan player. Nothing 'super' about him though... not before he has actually done sth for Milan. The 'sth' I'm talking about are 35 goals... minimum (since he's allegedly better than Inzaghi)

Re. his likeability, it's just the usual scripted we're one team + we all love each other blabla they always have to tell to the press. Kaka' gets along with everybody.. or pretends to.. he's one smart + media-savvy guy.

And I... I still don't like him.
 

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Passion for *9* said:
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Wooohooo! I like his enthusiasm for the Milan shirt.

Enthusiasm for the Milan shirt ? It's called talking the talk. Just a week before he discovered his undying love for Milan he announced how much he loves Chelsea + how much he wants to play + fight for them. I bet he shits on the Milan shirt right in front of your eyes if you only pay him enough. We did not get him for free either, we pay the bigger part of his salary. And I'm still willing to bet money that there is more to the deal than what has been made public.

Hmmm when u say there is more deal than what has been amde public i begin to wonder if it is not true,d way ancelotti has been clamouring for the guy has been absurd what could d whole set-up be then :head:
 

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