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empoli, theres a thread about itdiTa said:where is he on loan?.. and alves would be a great choice.. but in such a short period of time there is no way we can get an agreement with him.. so oddo is the logical resolution and he's ready to join us.
yup just checked before.. thnx anywayre_milan said:empoli, theres a thread about it
you mean right now?!?! ... no way is our defence better than barca or chelsea ... real madrid maybe, arsenal no they had a wonderful defence from last season ... you have to take in mind the midfield defensive duties. .. thats where we are SHIT and others are better, barca have edmilson, motta and van bommel and marquez can play there too ... chelsea have makelele, essien, lampard and ballack .. real madrid have diarra and emerson now ... arsenal have fabregas and gilberto silva and hleb ... we only have gattuso and vogel since ambro is always injured and pirlo and seedorf hardly do any defensive work .. thats why we needed diarrateis said:Our defence is way better than Barca's or Chelsea's. Arsenal have a good defence but we are still beter. And the defence of Real Madrid is a joke, I hope for Cannavaro he gets some defenders to play along him instead of the 3 jokers he has now.
Mate bring back Maldini, Kaladze, Nesta back into the Limelight...who's got a better defense?!? Noone! Throw in the Cafu + Serginho, Jankuloski and Bonera pwoah talk about depth. Also after that Favalli + Costacurta two experienced blokes with the possibility of Oddo coming, Chelsea, Arsenal and Barcalona have nothing compared to us.Jivara said:you mean right now?!?! ... no way is our defence better than barca or chelsea ... real madrid maybe, arsenal no they had a wonderful defence from last season ... you have to take in mind the midfield defensive duties. .. thats where we are SHIT and others are better, barca have edmilson, motta and van bommel and marquez can play there too ... chelsea have makelele, essien, lampard and ballack .. real madrid have diarra and emerson now ... arsenal have fabregas and gilberto silva and hleb ... we only have gattuso and vogel since ambro is always injured and pirlo and seedorf hardly do any defensive work .. thats why we needed diarra![]()
I don't mean any offense, but if you truly think that Milan's defense is on par with Chelsea or the other top clubs' defenses, then you're not being very objective about it. I don't think it's a bad defense, but I think it's clearly the weakest link in the team (assuming a quality striker is signed). Nesta is world-class, but the rest are either good, average, or thereabouts. Oddo would be a big boost, but it's a long season and Milan's got a very old defense.San Paolo said:Mate bring back Maldini, Kaladze, Nesta back into the Limelight...who's got a better defense?!? Noone! Throw in the Cafu + Serginho, Jankuloski and Bonera pwoah talk about depth. Also after that Favalli + Costacurta two experienced blokes with the possibility of Oddo coming, Chelsea, Arsenal and Barcalona have nothing compared to us.
Oh yeah and Simic. Looking at his performance against Red Star last week was awesome. Pretty good for an 8th defender dont you reckon?
As for our midfield, Gattuso need I say more? Ambro, Vogel, Brocchi even Seedorf works his ass off in defense. How many defensive mids do you want?
okay then, look at it this way ... who had the better defence last year? us or barca/chelsea/arsenal?? ... biasism aside, i know you would say the other 3 ... now, milan lost stam and so far got bonera and favalli ... favalli isnt a starter we all agree on that, bonera might be, but is he on the level of stam?? i dont think so, not offensivly and definatly not defensivly ... lets take a look at the other teams, starting with barca ... they had an excellent defence last year, their weak links were oleguer and belletti ... what do they do? ... they sign the worlds best full back zambrotta and a legend in thuram ... chelsea, they sold del horno who was a mess and they sign boulahrouz who had a good world cup and they bring back wayne bridge an excellent LB prior to his injury ... arsenal, no changes in defence, but based on last year they have the best defence in europeSan Paolo said:Mate bring back Maldini, Kaladze, Nesta back into the Limelight...who's got a better defense?!? Noone! Throw in the Cafu + Serginho, Jankuloski and Bonera pwoah talk about depth. Also after that Favalli + Costacurta two experienced blokes with the possibility of Oddo coming, Chelsea, Arsenal and Barcalona have nothing compared to us.
Oh yeah and Simic. Looking at his performance against Red Star last week was awesome. Pretty good for an 8th defender dont you reckon?
As for our midfield, Gattuso need I say more? Ambro, Vogel, Brocchi even Seedorf works his ass off in defense. How many defensive mids do you want?
Italian Tsar said:Hey, i've got a doubt. They say Bonera can play CB & RB. And Oddo is also a RB. On the left,though we can field Kala or Janku, i prefer to leave the former in CD and as for Janku Iam not really sure if he's world class. So, shouldn't our priority be signing a Left Back?![]()
ThanksRossoneri_Forever said:Well priority no....because we got Maldini, Serginho, Kaladze, Jankulovski. I dont think they will bother to buy a left-back....at least this year..Next year we would probably need one..
PS: Also i dont want to see Kaladze as LB because he sucks...and i was really impressed by him when he started playing CB along with Nesta
Of course you wouldn't be satisfied. Like many here you would be 'maybe' if we signed Diarra, Buffon, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Ronaldinho, Torres, Tevez, Puyol.dtlerch said:I don't mean any offense, but if you truly think that Milan's defense is on par with Chelsea or the other top clubs' defenses, then you're not being very objective about it. I don't think it's a bad defense, but I think it's clearly the weakest link in the team (assuming a quality striker is signed). Nesta is world-class, but the rest are either good, average, or thereabouts. Oddo would be a big boost, but it's a long season and Milan's got a very old defense.
Chelsea havent signed Boulahrouz...Have they?...And Bonera's better than him anyway so don't make our current defence look crap + lack depth..the only problem with it is other teams have made more changes to it than us but Barca's still isnt better..They have Van Bronkhorst...Not a great LB...Thuram...slow..Close to retirement...Puyol is unfaultable.....And Zambrotta the same....They have 2 out of 4 that can be consdiered world class..Thuram's past it now.Jivara said:okay then, look at it this way ... who had the better defence last year? us or barca/chelsea/arsenal?? ... biasism aside, i know you would say the other 3 ... now, milan lost stam and so far got bonera and favalli ... favalli isnt a starter we all agree on that, bonera might be, but is he on the level of stam?? i dont think so, not offensivly and definatly not defensivly ... lets take a look at the other teams, starting with barca ... they had an excellent defence last year, their weak links were oleguer and belletti ... what do they do? ... they sign the worlds best full back zambrotta and a legend in thuram ... chelsea, they sold del horno who was a mess and they sign boulahrouz who had a good world cup and they bring back wayne bridge an excellent LB prior to his injury ... arsenal, no changes in defence, but based on last year they have the best defence in europe
and you say milans defence is the best
Well put it this way...take into consideration the style of football Milan play...got it?Jivara said:okay then, look at it this way ... who had the better defence last year? us or barca/chelsea/arsenal?? ... biasism aside, i know you would say the other 3 ... now, milan lost stam and so far got bonera and favalli ... favalli isnt a starter we all agree on that, bonera might be, but is he on the level of stam?? i dont think so, not offensivly and definatly not defensivly ... lets take a look at the other teams, starting with barca ... they had an excellent defence last year, their weak links were oleguer and belletti ... what do they do? ... they sign the worlds best full back zambrotta and a legend in thuram ... chelsea, they sold del horno who was a mess and they sign boulahrouz who had a good world cup and they bring back wayne bridge an excellent LB prior to his injury ... arsenal, no changes in defence, but based on last year they have the best defence in europe
and you say milans defence is the best![]()
Exactly! Why do you think people that they had to sign those players?Gila#11. said:Chelsea havent signed Boulahrouz...Have they?...And Bonera's better than him anyway so don't make our current defence look crap + lack depth..the only problem with it is other teams have made more changes to it than us but Barca's still isnt better..They have Van Bronkhorst...Not a great LB...Thuram...slow..Close to retirement...Puyol is unfaultable.....And Zambrotta the same....They have 2 out of 4 that can be consdiered world class..Thuram's past it now.
Arsenal's is overrated. Only Eboue + Toure is good and they've sold Campbell + brought in nobody...
Only Chelsea's is better than ours.
yep i agree.. and as a matter of fact if there's a chance of getting gallas and oddo as well then milan would have maybe the strongest defence in europe.. but im not expecting both of them.. one of them coming to milan would be bingo! but still either of them would strengthen our defence even if for just a few seasonsmadtherchot said:I think we'll be pretty good if both Gallas and Oddo come. We're not the best (defensively) at the moment, but we're not bad either.
I can only agree with you. You are so right in this discussion, it even saves me troubles of typing it all myselfSan Paolo said:Well put it this way...take into consideration the style of football Milan play...got it?
Ill let you know anyways its attacking + attractive which is always going to result in our defense being on its toes.
Chelsea? One dimentional typical english style of play. Work it up form the back with long balls. They've signed nobs in defence. Just because some random had a good world cup doesn't mean consistently he is a good player.
Arsenal? I take my hat off to them. 12 give or take 1 cleansheets in the UCL is a amazing feat, a lot of credit would have to be put down to Lehman's herorics, though what happened in the EPL?!? They were merely focusing on the UCL whereas Milan was fighting on two fronts. Also take into consideration the injuries we had last year.
Barcalona? Played great though their attack overshadows their defense by far. They recruited well with Zambrotta though Thuram 35? He's past it.
Yes we've signed Bonera and Favalli though did we really need to sign anyone else?
We missed out on Zambrotta cause of the Calciopoli scandal though if we are going for Oddo that is still a good choice and with the depth that Milan have some of our second string defensive line up would start in all those teams you mentioned.
I think that Bonera is good enough to play RB and CB for us....Jivara said:we all agree that a RB and a CB of gallas' type is somewhat needed i guess right?
Bonera CB yes but no to right back he doesnt have Oddo's quality on the ball going forward so i think Bonera CB only but right back coverMIRZA said:I think that Bonera is good enough to play RB and CB for us....
MaGasTeR said:I think Bonera will play as a CB partenering Nesta & replacing Stam and Kaladze being more like Simic.