Robinho Thread

[MilanMB]

Pato sold could also work. But the difference between Pato and Robinho is that Pato can explode into a real world class player, Robinho will never reach those heights.

Also, Pato has characteristics all of Cass, Rob, Ibra and Tevez lacks. He could be good to have in the squad.

If he only could stop getting injured

 

[MilanReality]

Pato sold could also work. But the difference between Pato and Robinho is that Pato can explode into a real world class player, Robinho will never reach those heights.

Also, Pato has characteristics all of Cass, Rob, Ibra and Tevez lacks. He could be good to have in the squad.

If he only could stop getting injured

mind me asking what Pato has that tevez doesnt destroy him in?
Only thing I could think of is "loyalty", but his finger fucking PSG last month blew that one too.

 

[MilanMB]

because he IS too important to get rid of.

We DO NOT SPEND MONEY ANYMORE. Therefore, if we get rid of him, then what?

Tevez was on his way in wasn't he? and he'll probably come in summer.

Someone is going to get sold. We can't have all five of them in the squad.

Tbh though, I think Cassano's days on the highest level are over. I don't put much hope in him getting back to his best.

 

[MilanMB]

mind me asking what Pato has that tevez doesnt destroy him in?
Only thing I could think of is "loyalty", but his finger fucking PSG last month blew that one too.

Speed and finishing comes to mind. Especially speed.

Don't get me wrong now, I think Teves IS the better striker than Pato.

 

[MilanReality]

Speed and finishing comes to mind. Especially speed.

Don't get me wrong now, I think Teves IS the better striker than Pato.

I dont mean to shit on your parade, but tevez has more goals in the last 2 full seasons, than pato does in his last 4-5 combined.

Tevez finishes like Peter North. Pato is a fluffer in comparison.

ETA: and he stays healthy

 

[MilanMB]

I dont mean to shit on your parade, but tevez has more goals in the last 2 full seasons, than pato does in his last 4-5 combined.

Tevez finishes like Peter North. Pato is a fluffer in comparison.

ETA: and he stays healthy

Does that say anything about their finishing?

I strongly believe that Pato's one of the best finisher's out there. But yeah, the problem is that he's never healthy long enough to prove it.

Besides, you asked me:

mind me asking what Pato has that tevez doesnt destroy him in?

We can have a long debate about which one of the is the better finisher, but at the end of the day, Tevez doesn't "destroy" Pato in finishing.

 

[MilanReality]

Does that say anything about their finishing?

I strongly believe that Pato's one of the best finisher's out there. But yeah, the problem is that he's never healthy long enough to prove it.

Besides, you asked me:


We can have a long debate about which one of the is the better finisher, but at the end of the day, Tevez doesn't "destroy" Pato in finishing.

Fair enough. We wont change out stances on anything it seems. Im not even sure if Pato is faster than tevez, but its likely he is.

The only real edge I give to Pato, is age.

 

[Goodfella]

Again, attackers easily gets marginalized when the midfield can't hold possession or be an outlet you can trust.

It would help with forwards who move a lot and pressure off-ball. Something Cassano isn't doing much, unlike Binho.

Robinho isn't that useful against any team. All this talk about his runs are getting ******ed. They're good, but it's not like he wins us game with them.

His clever run won us last season's 2nd derby.

Robinho's runs isn't even the best thing with him IMO. Him being able to hold on to the ball is much more important than his runs given the midfield we have.

Who said his runs are the best thing about him? His best attributes are his ball control, build-up play, link-up play etc.

His superior pace, off-ball pressure and mobility makes him a better option than Cassano against certain opponents, such as Barca.

 

[Congo Powers]

The only real edge I give to Pato, is age.

pretty sure tevez beats pato in this department

 

[Goodfella]

pretty sure tevez beats pato in this department

 

[Sage]

He had service every year before this.

Why is Matri scoring more than he did with pirlo? Why did pippo score more often in 08-09?

When are we going to realize Pato is a still very immature and doesn't actually get how to play football. Like I said, counter attack is his only real mode of conssitent goals.

I mean, he really doesn't get how to properly play. Put pippo's brain in his body, and he'd score 50 with this team

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it's disgusting how it's never 'pato's fault'.

matri is scoring because of pirlo? please keep believing that

Pato has his issues, but he does score and thats what counts, lets judge him when Milan actually has talent providing him with service.

Pato would be scoring 50 goals if he has inzaghi's brain WITH THIS MIDFIELD? bullshit.

messi and cristiano would struggle to score 25-30 a season.


its disgusting how you make him seem like a sunday league player.

 

[MilanMB]

It would help with forwards who move a lot and pressure off-ball. Something Cassano isn't doing much, unlike Binho.
His clever run won us last season's 2nd derby.
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Who said his runs are the best thing about him? His best attributes are his ball control, build-up play, link-up play etc.

His superior pace, off-ball pressure and mobility makes him a better option than Cassano against certain opponents, such as Barca.

Robinho sucks, leave me alone.

 

[Senatore_M84]

Pato would be scoring 50 goals if he has inzaghi's brain WITH THIS MIDFIELD? bullshit.

Zlatan scores fine. Robinho gets in scoring position fine .

messi and cristiano would struggle to score 25-30 a season.

They'd score fine. We'd still play an ugly boring game, but they'd score. It's not like we don't get ball forward enough..

its disgusting how you make him seem like a sunday league player.

No, you keep missing my point.

Pato's not a complete player. Guys listed above including pippo are more complete in their roles. They can play more than one system.

Pato's goals come on counters. Typically over the top, where he uses pace. Put him in EPL and he'll be among the best strikers cause of style of game.

It's simply the point he's mentally not there, and his best assets are pace and finishing, which come out most in counters. Something we don't play many of with this midfield.

Guys like Messi, Zlatan don't rely on counter. Heck, Pippo doesn't either... he relied on playing lanes and finding openings.

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If pato had pippo's movement/brain (whatever you want to call it) and played off ball well, zlatan or robinho would eventually find him for a couple goals a game

 

[Goodfella]

Robinho sucks, leave me alone.

If we get Tevez to replace one of our current forwards then it's either Pato or Ibra. Binho is irreplaceable.

 

[Charbel]

I don't like Robinho. He should be in his prime, but he is really nothing special. . I'm probably a tad harsh on him, but I've always thought of him as a much better player. He never was able to take it to the next step and never will probably. He's a very very good player , but I wouldn't count on him in my first team. He's like Boateng @ the moment. Both are VERY Vital for OUR SYSTEM, but how much else do they add? Boateng adds more in my opinion.

 

[Sage]

Zlatan scores fine. Robinho gets in scoring position fine .




They'd score fine. We'd still play an ugly boring game, but they'd score. It's not like we don't get ball forward enough..



No, you keep missing my point.

Pato's not a complete player. Guys listed above including pippo are more complete in their roles. They can play more than one system.

Pato's goals come on counters. Typically over the top, where he uses pace. Put him in EPL and he'll be among the best strikers cause of style of game.

It's simply the point he's mentally not there, and his best assets are pace and finishing, which come out most in counters. Something we don't play many of with this midfield.

Guys like Messi, Zlatan don't rely on counter. Heck, Pippo doesn't either... he relied on playing lanes and finding openings.

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If pato had pippo's movement/brain (whatever you want to call it) and played off ball well, zlatan or robinho would eventually find him for a couple goals a game

funny how pato already has a better goal scoring record than inzaghi in serie A(with Milan)

inzaghi - one of the most overrated player of all times when Milan fans talk about him, one of the most underrated when everyone else talks about him

Zlatan scores fine because he's zlatan, matri and whoever you fap too would struggle in this team, no wing service and average service form midfield.

cristiano would def. struggle, he needs service more than anyone, messi would score, but def. not more than 25-30

zlatan scores from a shitty ass long ball/pass/cross, he makes something out of nothing, please don't compare other strikers to zlatan.

I'm not missing your point, I know Pato is not complete yet and he has his issues, but even with all the issue the guy can still score, having the 2nd best goal/min ratio in serie A last season and the best in Milan isn't a simple thing (something which you always ignore because it makes him look good)

a player improves with the players around him, zlatan alone is not enough esp at pato's age with the mediocre players around him.

the guy will improve once he gets rid of these annoying injuries and gets proper service/proper team around him.

I don't give a fuck if robinho gets into 100 scoring positions, the fact that he has 4 goals this season speaks volumes of his ******ed finishing.

 

[Danilo JBG]

Tbh though, I think Cassano's days on the highest level are over. I don't put much hope in him getting back to his best.

That Cassano problem made me think once again how life can be cruel sometimes. After something near 10 years, Cassano was finally back into track for a top club. He was in great form, leaking assists (I think he still leads it), just had a son. He took his last chance very well, and then he has a heart problem.

That kind of thing makes me feel depressed. One doesn't deserve that.

 

[Kvothe]

Shit shit shit.

Sell sell sell.

 

[Ashish]

inzaghi is the definition of clutch but in serie a he has been shit for milan ...

pato is better than inzaghi for being fit .. but untill he produce something big or sit in curva and drink wine .. pato will be thrown to wolves .. somewhat fair ...

inzaghi is a machine pato is just a kid

 

[Goodfella]

Shit shit shit.

Sell sell sell.

Pato will be gone in next window. So will Ibra. Probably also Maxi. Cassano will probably never return. Pippo will finally retire. You want Binho gone too?

Poor Tevez, by the time he's here he'll be our only striker....oh and Ganz

 

[Sage]

That Cassano problem made me think once again how life can be cruel sometimes. After something near 10 years, Cassano was finally back into track for a top club. He was in great form, leaking assists (I think he still leads it), just had a son. He took his last chance very well, and then he has a heart problem.

That kind of thing makes me feel depressed. One doesn't deserve that.

life is cruel?

he made millions and millions because of his talent which he never even fulfilled, and this problem probably came from not taking care of himself and drugs.

I'm 100% sure cassano used drugs over the years.

since they said that its a small problem, I'm he can come back to his recent level, as long as he's not fat.

 

[Congo Powers]

nah. you're letting cassano's reputation precede himself.

many people do alot of drugs and do not have heart problems/strokes when they are as young as cassano...who is a professional athlete in incredible shape. whether or not he used drugs....highly highly highly unlikely drugs were the cause of his health problems.

 

[Sage]

nah. you're letting cassano's reputation precede himself.

many people do alot of drugs and do not have heart problems/strokes when they are as young as cassano...who is a professional athlete in incredible shape.

you're letting your love for cassano make you believe he is a saint

nothing is for sure, I just hardly think someone like cassano would have been clean through out his career.


cassano pro? nah

incredible shape? hell no.

although, he was in pretty good shape at the start of the season, I think if he takes his time and gets back to his weight before his surgery, he'll be just fine.

 

[Senatore_M84]

it's not just the drug use. Congo's right, plenty of people use drugs. You're rich... and for some weird reason, the more famous and rich you are the free-er they are... but anyway, it's not about the drugs.

It's about the lifestyle. Not training hard, getting out of shape, eating unhealthy, drinking too much, drugs on top. It all hurts.


Some of greatest athletes are drug abusers. But they still had edge to be great and worked at it.

of course that's an exception.... most people who fall into drug trap become lazy....



@Cassano getting back- i'm not confident.

Heart attacks are serious business. Who knows what kind of complications he has. Recovering from one and living healthy, yes. Recovering from one and being cleared by a medical staff to play an athletic event? Not confident. Athletes are held to higherstandard than you or i

 

[MilanMB]

Some of greatest athletes are drug abusers. But they still had edge to be great and worked at it.

Users, not abusers.

 

[Senatore_M84]

Users, not abusers.

maradona, lawerence taylor (NFL), ronaldinho would be abusers.

but you're right, i meant casual user

 

[Danilo JBG]

life is cruel?

he made millions and millions because of his talent which he never even fulfilled, and this problem probably came from not taking care of himself and drugs.

I'm 100% sure cassano used drugs over the years.

since they said that its a small problem, I'm he can come back to his recent level, as long as he's not fat.

Well, he was finally starting to get on the right track. I really believe we should put his past behind him if he's really focused on changing his professional ways. Even if he didn't acheive what he could because of his own fault, I think the most important thing is what he is now.

He's rich indeed, but that's not my point. I'm thinking about his career, which may be important for him, even if he didn't take care of it in the past.

 

[Congo Powers]

maradona, lawerence taylor (NFL), ronaldinho would be abusers.

but you're right, i meant casual user

andre agassi!!

 

[MilanMB]

andre agassi!!

really?

since he's persian I'm thinking opium.

 

[Congo Powers]

really?

since he's persian I'm thinking opium.

crystal meth! eek