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Most of patoshevas rumours one can barely read/understand, and a lot of them can't even be substantiated by the crappiest of transfer rumour sites out there. Any transfer rumour of even little substance is usually (re-)posted by someone else providing a link anyway.

If he were here he'd probably tell me to go fuck myself and not reply to his posts anymore, but well, he isn't.
 

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It's the rumor commode.... STOP Criticizing PatoSheva.

90% of you posty bullshit fantasy formations. zomg :star:STROOTMAN:star: nooooo :fp:muntari:fp:

All PatoSheva does is relay info based on who milan is scouting/interested in.
 

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Yeh forget about totti post 2006, maybe even a year or 2 before that.. because he became more and more of a forward but totti in his number 10 days was a thing of beauty. His one touch flicked pass were just amazing. He had a much much faster brain than Zlatan as an AM. Zlatan i guess feels the need to stand on the ball and wait for the defender to come and then to beat him with a fancy dribble. Totti was very quick with his passing his movement and his passing range was in the league of Platini, Baggio , Zidane etc

It's both brain and technique

Totti had a lot more range/technique. I mean he was a pure Trequartista.

Zlatan is a forward, a technical one, but still a forward. Totti could consistently play the quick 15-20 yard pass. Zlatan doesn't which is why it's best to not isolate him uptop.

my fav zlatan moment this year was this-




And it sums up what he can do others can't. No one has his combo of size and technique. Very few players can fight off a defender, play down a ball w/ that touch and play it thru 5-10 yards.

Same can be said for his assist v. barca.... robinho brought him the ball w/ a nice dribble, zlatan had some space and played a nice short ball thru the defense.

The thing is, totti who was a natural trequartista, didn't need the space, nor the man as close to be effective.

But when Zlatan gets isolated, he dwells on the ball and wastes his physique. I mean what he was doing v. barca drove me crazy. He's so much bigger than mascerano, but if he just tries to dribble him/stand him up, he gives up that edge and mascherano owns him. Seems silly.


And while he doesn't NEED to be isolated in a 4-2-3-1, it happens a lot and reality is, unless we commit A LOT forward, it'll end up wasting him.


To build an ideal team around zlatan you want a 2 striker system.
-you want to pair him w/ a hard worker who moves a lot. Someone like Higuain would be ideal
-you want a ball-player in CM to string the side together (Xavi, pirlo etc.)
-You want an AM/winger type who drives the team forward but doesn't dwell on the ball (nedved, boateng, hamsik)
-And you want some width (Fb or winger) who can spread out play and play it effectively to him, utilizing his size in 1 v 1s

There's many ways to find these characteristics. Juve had camorenesi and zambrotta playing width, nedved cut in a lot, trevezeguet with him uptop. Inter had crespo/cruz etc. uptop, guy like stankovic was very efficient and didn't dwell, and they got amazing wingback play from maicon and co.


That's just my 2 cents on how to maximize zlatan.
 
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this is place for TRANSFER RUMOURS, and unlike most other guys patosheva post a rummors and transfer news. Most of posts hear are dream signing and opinion of who should milan sign and just a few posts are real news, and most of this news are from patosheva.
 

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this is place for TRANSFER RUMOURS, and unlike most other guys patosheva post a rummors and transfer news. Most of posts hear are dream signing and opinion of who should milan sign and just a few posts are real news, and most of this news are from patosheva.

in short?

@PATOSHEVA

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I like Leo's point & it make you respect the guy since obviously it describe all the wrongs in Milan.
However , what really bother me the most , what eats me inside, what stab me in the stomach is fuckin Flamini opening his mouth like he deserve to have a say in anything like a senator :fp:
 

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I like Leo's point & it make you respect the guy since obviously it describe all the wrongs in Milan.
However , what really bother me the most , what eats me inside, what stab me in the stomach is fuckin Flamini opening his mouth like he deserve to have a say in anything like a senator :fp:

mmmmmm his fat wage justified him :o
 

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Well he is paid like a senator....
 

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Wow, suddenly a lot of haters appear here when patosheva is banned.That shows how weak some of you are.I myself maybe,sometimes find hard to read some of his posts,but in the end i understand what he want to say.Believe it or not patosheva was first person in this forum with whom I argued.Some of you provoke him many times,and his form of self defense is not acceptable sometimes,but not always its his fault.Patosheva's main area in this forum is here where we are talking,let him do what he knows best.We are all here Milan fans but in patosheva you can see that he really loves Milan,and not some seasonal fan who come here attracted by some current succes of the team.
 

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you're absolutely not helping his case whatsoever

nor your own case either :lol:

In my case for example you are boring.And i told long time ago,go to some cricket forum kid.
 

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It's the rumor commode.... STOP Criticizing PatoSheva.

90% of you posty bullshit fantasy formations. zomg :star:STROOTMAN:star: nooooo :fp:muntari:fp:

All PatoSheva does is relay info based on who milan is scouting/interested in.
This is how I feel. Besides rumors from patosheva and a few others the rest post about players from their dreams or about our supposed budget and how we should use it, who should come in and who should leave and how their lost wage creates more money, etc. This stuff is more BS/fantasy than the rumors he posts and that's why at times I wish this thread was strictly rumors.

The worst part is this forces patosheva to reply to such posts agreeing or disagreeing and he's no authority on Milan either, so the BS cycle continues.
 

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If Leonardo really cared about Milan and wanting to be Milan's coach he wouldn't have written such an egomaniac ultimatum. Or maybe I'm overrating his intelligence. He's either an idiot with zero strategical thinking, with zero background study of his boss of the past 10 years, zero knowledge of his players, a man who can't stand criticism (no that's not balls, balls involve courage + intelligence)...or he knew exactly where he was going to get to by handing out that ultimatum, just to come off as the good guy/hero of the story, which wouldn't be surprising it goes in hand with the pussy he is.


On top of that a complete hypocrite, slagging of certain players just cause he didn't know how to handle them but nuturing the lazy ass of Ronaldinho and taking credit for the Kaka signing when Kaka himself said it was 100% all Braida.

The 5 points itself are ok though I specially liked how he's kind of looking to get a medical license in 2 months in the same way he got his coaching license, and I do love the fact that he talked about the training methods when it has been reported by players and press that under Leonardo the trainning regime was incredibly lax and had almost no focus on physucal work (just focus on playing 5 a side games). I also like that he mentions youth but he only used Strasser as a youth player even when emergency hit (and Zigoni for like 12 minutes).

To be fair though, I'm pretty sure that's what Carlo and Allegri have wanted just that neither of them will try to come off as the good guys or be stupid enough to write an ultimatum to a man who one should already know his train of thought, a man who between Sacchi and MVB went with the player and man who has ALWAYS sided with "his stars" ahead of the coach... You want balls? Allegri for ex. has been trying to work it on the inside, getting rid of Ronaldinho without any sort of huge repercutions was something of balls (same with Pirlo), eventually it can also be part of the reason B. isn't happy with Allegri, but he did 2 things that were unthinkable in the past. You can do more and have more power while being inside than outside. You can do more by not allienating players with power, you can do more by not sending such a moronic statement to another egomaniac like you.

And really there's no point in slagging of patosheva's rumours...this is the thread for doing what he did. There's BS rumours being created every single moment of the day, some of those BS sounding ones can become truth...most won't. So big deal.
 
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Well we will never get close to winning Coppa Italia or Champion's league with Allegri, that I can guarantee - he's not a tournament coach. He's not inspiriational/flexible enough to take on big teams (as we've seen this season).

I think he'd be better off in a mid-table team bringing them up to Europa league etc.

I do not think that Allegri is completely bad. However, I believe that he focus of a single style revolving a lone player which at the end it is suicidal. As I said before, our team has more time of possession compared to last year; however, this year our game has become more horizontal than vertical. I have liked how we played in CL because Ibra becomes a part of the team unlike serie A where he is the decision maker of the team. I understand that our injury situation is quite alarming; however, it should never be an excuse for our overall performance on this year calendar which was overall good.

I think that Allegri should stay; however, if he is bent in playing next season like we do this season, then there is not need for creative MF at all, we only need work horses.

Forza Milan!
 

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The issue with patosheva is that he attacks people simply for disagreeing, and does so childishly. We've all succumb to emotions before and said something that we were less than thrilled about in retrospect, but patosheva does it far too regularly. How many times have we seen him switching to curse someone out for disagreeing or challenging what he posts? That's just daft.

I like that he posts rumors, it makes this thread a nice place to read; however, the bickering can get really tiresome, as can the escalation.
 

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The issue with patosheva is that he attacks people simply for disagreeing, and does so childishly. We've all succumb to emotions before and said something that we were less than thrilled about in retrospect, but patosheva does it far too regularly. How many times have we seen him switching to curse someone out for disagreeing or challenging what he posts? That's just daft.

I like that he posts rumors, it makes this thread a nice place to read; however, the bickering can get really tiresome, as can the escalation.
Oh well that's different, tbf, I just read the rumours and scroll down in case he says anything else. I have read some people slagging him off cause of the rumours he has posted but oh well.
 

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The issue with patosheva is that he attacks people simply for disagreeing, and does so childishly.

Exactly. And he's acting like everything he posts is the truth, although he's just a 13 year old with too many TV channels.

And when he gets really upset he starts writing in some Yugoslav language. Usually something like "suck a dick you son of a whore". I've received some nice pm's from him.
 

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3 games without mexes, last game without ses, and now he left robinho home and call strasser&merkel....Allegri lossing nerve :fp:
 

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against allegri, the main thing is, the fact that he couldnt find a spot in the team for pirlo... and now the guy is winning a champ for juve against milan.

this makes any director/owner pissed when it happens.. specially when is our thing, free transfers.. pirlo and seedorf came as garbage from inter.. kaka was practically a gift from sao paulo..

now galliani is on the market gambling our luck. is normal.
 

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What?
He could find a spot for Pirlo. The thing is, Pirlo couldn't find a spot in his wallet for Milan
 

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against allegri, the main thing is, the fact that he couldnt find a spot in the team for pirlo... and now the guy is winning a champ for juve against milan.

this makes any director/owner pissed when it happens.. specially when is our thing, free transfers.. pirlo and seedorf came as garbage from inter.. kaka was practically a gift from sao paulo..

now galliani is on the market gambling our luck. is normal.

Pirlo works at Juve because he has two very good CMs that help him keep the midfield ticking.

He didn't have that at Milan. Imagine a three-man with Pirlo + Bommel + Nocerino. Who's going to play 1-2's with Pirlo and keep moving? No one.
 

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Pirlo works at Juve because he has two very good CMs that help him keep the midfield ticking.

He didn't have that at Milan. Imagine a three-man with Pirlo + Bommel + Nocerino. Who's going to play 1-2's with Pirlo and keep moving? No one.

Kudos to Senatore for predicting this at the start of the season, foreseeing the placement of runners around Pirlo and he will shine, well guess Ladri cashed in on that idea!
 

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everyone knew he would do well if he got protected, I personally thought he would fail because I initially thought conte would play a 4-4-2/4-2-4

but now they play a 4-5-1 or a 3-5-2

EVERYONE protects him and this is the only system he can do well in.


which is why I will never rate him as a great player like gerrard for example, I don't rate players that can do well in specific conditions.
 

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against allegri, the main thing is, the fact that he couldnt find a spot in the team for pirlo... and now the guy is winning a champ for juve against milan.

this makes any director/owner pissed when it happens.. specially when is our thing, free transfers.. pirlo and seedorf came as garbage from inter.. kaka was practically a gift from sao paulo..

now galliani is on the market gambling our luck. is normal.

Pirlo also demanded a 3 year deal, which we wouldn't give. That's the owner/director's policy.
 
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