The Rumour Commode XLI: Ragnarok

[brk]

This is absolutely true in the case of Adli, but we also have to consider the possibility that the young players added to the squad last summer aren’t good enough?

Dest and CDK were just awful this season. Pioli gave both of them plenty of chances, way too much in CDK’s godforsaken case. Dest got like exiled from the team, I don’t know if he just sucks and or he had an attitude issue but he’s out of favor.

Pobega has been probably about as expected? I never thought of him as a 3rd or 4th option at DM/CAM/CM, he needs to be lower on the pecking order than that, but our midfield quality was not great this season.

Vranckx is 19. I like what I’ve seen in general, his last appearance showcasing some very solid long range passing. But again he’s 19 and probably nowhere near disciplined enough to play DM consistently. Next to Adli, this is the one I think Pioli has gotten most wrong, he could have been used more earlier in the season and might have proven to be a valuable rotation player.

Thiaw could have been utilized earlier, but it takes time to settle into a new club and league, especially at 21. Ultimately, he looks like a potential future starter for us and arguably should already be given his form + Kalulu/Kjaer fading.

My honest opinion is that the squad is flawed in 2 ways: 1) The starting XI isn’t good enough AND 2) Our depth is pretty weak. Pioli has talked about needing 23 players that can play at virtually the same level. We didn’t have that this year, not even close. Our starting XI had glaring weaknesses at DM (Kessie), RW, CAM (Pioli’s fault), and CF as good as Giroud has been for us.

I'm not talking about the first 11 or how we play in specific games. My point was that in the long term, we had two strategic goals that the entire plan was built on: Play in a very system-based way (we chose a high pressing, transition oriented game) and to take risks with young players that can give you way more upside than established players.

For the first three years we pretty much followed that plan religiously, with a few exceptions with some leaders like Ibra and Kjaer to steady the ship and give guidance. We had early success that proved we're on the right track.

I feel like things went off the rails in two ways. Leao exploding gave Pioli a superweapon that he became addicted to. We stopped trying to find team-focused ways to break teams down and simply ended up designing the whole strategy around isolating Leao with a fullback. This goes against the idea of us being a system first team, as we're now a Leao team.

The second error was that Pioli became obsessed with winning and that made him much more risk averse with youth and players he's not used to. Thiaw only played because of an emergency. Arguably even Kalulu was the same way. What Pioli sees in training clearly isn't enough for him to understand what sort of players he has on his hands, which explains the surprise when one of them performs, since he then suddenly accepts that he has an actual player he can use.

Him saying I want 23 first team players is also bullshit since this season he clearly has an A team and a B team, and the players feel and know this. Those that have his trust know they're undroppable. There isn't competition anymore, and that's made some 'starters' get complacent, especially after winning the title.

 

[sheva]

He does have a very white starting 11
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[patosheva]

Pioli’s system also requires quality depth. I don’t think anyone took better advantage of the 5 sub rule than Pioli prior to this season. Think back to previous seasons when he could bring a deadly Rebic off the bench along with Ibra and one or two of Kessie/Bennacer/Tonali/Krunic. Florenzi was a very effective sub last season as well.

Injuries effectively cost us Ibra, Florenzi, and Rebic this season. Those 3 have been important to Piolisimo, especially Ibra and Rebic. Free agency cost us Kessie and Romagnoli.

The players we brought in have not cut it.

The season depended on MMM pulling another rabbit out of their hat, but they mostly misfired and provided players that seemingly didn’t cut it.

Of course, I’ll always blame Pioli for Adli… so dumb

totaly on spot,
his system take alot of energy and rebic ibra + benna from bench is far different then pobega,cdk origi from bench.

 

[AC Kid]

For what exactly??? Valencia fans were chanting that he is monkey before he even stepped out of the bus. The fact that fans are allowed to racially abuse black players every single week across Europe is crazy. And these football associations not really caring about it
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Funny how It’s always the people who never experienced racism that has the most to say

I swear i was talking about Vinicius in general being annoying… not this game in particular and what he suffered.

UK stadiums are very respectful imo.. rest of Europe have things like that everywhere you go. It’s mad how they tolerate such things. Absolutely no consequences because associations and clubs themselves are racist. Difference is they can’t be public about it like fans.

Hope you get my point. I dislike Vini’s personality overall… nothing against him for what happened last night

 

[Swagotelli]

Speaking of Bayern, apparently this was their logo 1938-45 lol

 

[Soldier_of_god]

I stand with Vinicius

He needs to leave Madrid and that rotten league as soon as possible

What’s happening to him is a disgrace. I really feel for him

Italy is no different. They are just as racist.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Think we should give pobega some time.
Locatelli
Cristante
All are doing pretty well after they left us.

We underrate some od oue talents. Loca and cristante would be handy squad players.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Is Okafor good enough to be our number 9 for next season? I know he’s a upgrade over what we have now, but is he a big enough upgrade?

Nha. Stats wise no. Slender build.

 

[Thenebra]

Hope juve gets 15 points deducted and they have to sign diaz for 30 mil.

 

[patosheva]

Hope juve gets 15 points deducted and they have to sign diaz for 30 mil.

everyone says 12 points fro this year and probabile more points for next year.

 

[Cloren]

Italy is no different. They are just as racist.

Agreed. I hope he goes to EPL.

 

[papaberlu]

We were spoiled in our youth, there were great strikers everywhere. The price for players like Darwin Nunez reflects the scarcity for sure.

There were rumors today that Chelsea has offered 80M for Vlahovic. Osimhen would probably fetch 80M at least, it’s a position where you get extremely lucky and sign the next big thing or you have to spend BIG on.

Unfortunately, our biggest needs are CF and RW, neither of which boast a deep pool of talent.

Yeah the market really is fucked. Osimhen will fetch 150mish btw. Even Kane who is on the final year of his deal will come close to 100m

I don't envy Maldini in finding Ibra's replacement

At this point, I'm content with getting someone like Morata who can contribute to the build up and use the extra funds to fortify the remaining attacking roles and midfielders. What good is having a finisher like Vlahovic if you cannot provide the service necessary

 

[papaberlu]

The renewal of #Leao will be formalized between Thursday and Friday - Di Marzio

 

[sheva]

almost worse than the var treatment in milan matches

 

[papaberlu]

Between sales, savings and a 50 million euro budget, the new #Milan could be born with 100 million to spend in the summer to reinforce the squad available to #Pioli - GDS

well 70m after 30m is wasted on the hobbit

 

[sheva]

Between sales, savings and a 50 million euro budget, the new #Milan could be born with 100 million to spend in the summer to reinforce the squad available to #Pioli - GDS

well 70m after 30m is wasted on the hobbit

we can have 2 cdk's

 

[Hitchens]

Today's edition of the Gazzetta dello Sport has the following headline this morning regarding the Rossoneri's summer market: "100 million for the new Milan". To the 50 million euro budget, the Devil's managers aim to add another 50 million to this figure which could come from the sale of some players, including for example Rebic and Origi. The main goal is to strengthen midfield and attack for next season.

 

[sheva]

please lord let there be someone chaperoning paolo in this summer market

of course he can buy anyone until cm, the great thiaw and servicable fbt are proof to that

but we will not survive another splash on a fragile kid after a drunken stupor in the milano nightclubs

 

[papaberlu]

please lord let there be someone chaperoning paolo in this summer market

of course he can buy anyone until cm, the great thiaw and servicable fbt are proof to that

but we will not survive another splash on a fragile kid after a drunken stupor in the milano nightclubs

It will be Furlani

he already took the reigns when it came to the Leao renewal

 

[R.Akbar]

Today's edition of the Gazzetta dello Sport has the following headline this morning regarding the Rossoneri's summer market: "100 million for the new Milan". To the 50 million euro budget, the Devil's managers aim to add another 50 million to this figure which could come from the sale of some players, including for example Rebic and Origi. The main goal is to strengthen midfield and attack for next season.

this is kinda stooped,

i mean,
who would've known such thing?

 

[Nalim]

Speaking of Bayern, apparently this was their logo 1938-45 lol

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Every German club back then had to have a swastika in their club badge. Bayern was actually considered a "Jewish club" by the Nazis and the club was more or less openly opposed to the Nazi regime.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/may/12/bayern-munich-anti-nazi-history

 

[Ryo]

this is kinda stooped,

i mean,
who would've known such thing?

Same as the dudes who "knew" that Milan would have a budget of 50M last season.

 

[MilanBG]

Today's edition of the Gazzetta dello Sport has the following headline this morning regarding the Rossoneri's summer market: "100 million for the new Milan". To the 50 million euro budget, the Devil's managers aim to add another 50 million to this figure which could come from the sale of some players, including for example Rebic and Origi. The main goal is to strengthen midfield and attack for next season.

It's pointless to discuss this 'report' right now. There's zero chance GdS know anything right now. I am pretty sure even Maldini doesn't know how much he has to spend this summer considering we still don't know if we will be in CL next season or not.

 

[Mario]

everyone says 12 points fro this year and probabile more points for next year.

is the decision today?

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Between sales, savings and a 50 million euro budget, the new #Milan could be born with 100 million to spend in the summer to reinforce the squad available to #Pioli - GDS

well 70m after 30m is wasted on the hobbit

Don't give a flying fuck. Go big. Sell some fodder. Free up space. Go big. 60 mil for vlahovic or omishen.
Then 30 40 for Alvarez or pina.
Get rlc and tielemans for free and cut price.
Done
Bam scudetto.
And champions league semi.
Otherwise zero tiituli.

 

[Mario]

Don't give a flying fuck. Go big. Sell some fodder. Free up space. Go big. 60 mil for vlahovic or omishen.
Then 30 40 for Alvarez or pina.
Get rlc and tielemans for free and cut price.
Done
Bam scudetto.
And champions league semi.
Otherwise zero tiituli.

All this in season one or your second one?

60m for Osimhhen (who cost Napoli 70m remember years ago ) and 30-40m for Alvarez is ambitious

Tielemans will join a big PL club the Roma links are bs

 

[Soldier_of_god]

All this in season one or your second one?

60m for Osimhhen (who cost Napoli 70m remember years ago ) and 30-40m for Alvarez is ambitious

Tielemans will join a big PL club the Roma links are bs

Pay 80 mil for oshimen then. Let's go. Blow the whole budget. Fuck it. I don't care. We need him now. We will win the title

 

[Pigeon]

Don't give a flying fuck. Go big. Sell some fodder. Free up space. Go big. 60 mil for vlahovic or omishen.
Then 30 40 for Alvarez or pina.
Get rlc and tielemans for free and cut price.
Done
Bam scudetto.
And champions league semi.
Otherwise zero tiituli.

i would go for haaland tbh

 

[Mario]

Kudus told Ajax he wants to leave

40m - I remember he impressed me whenever I seen him play

 

[Mario]

i would go for haaland tbh

Buy Diaz 15 mil offer diaz plus 65m go all in give him Zlatan and origi wage

Bam

Scudetto n loss in ucl final