The Rumour Commode XLVII: Foamseca is out

[Samaldinho]

Mate you're not being fair. Every management has made mistakes on transfers.

Pulisic and Tiji came for around 40M. That's over half of what we sold Tonali for. If we hadn't done that, we would still be playing Messias Jr and Salad as our RW combo and our midfield last year would have been Bennacer and Pobega (Tonali suspended), and likely wouldn't have made top 4 last season. Pulisic Contributed 21 G & A in the league last season alone, Tiji 7 G & A. That's 28 G & A out of 76 total league goals scored. They were responsible for nearly 40% of our total attack last season. We'd be mid-table if not for them.

Even Boban had his Piatek and Paquetas, and even Maldini had his Origis and Ballo Toures.

To say last season's mercato was consistently bad is just disingenuous.

How do you determine that Pulisic and Reijnders were dependent on selling Tonali?

Chuk and RLC cost the same.

Maybe the Tonali money was spent on Chuk, Okafor, and RLC?

Or we could trust Gerry's own words when he said we didn't need to sell Tonali to buy players?

Every management has tranfer failures. Redbird's failure rate is far higher than other big clubs in Italy and previous successful regimes for our club.

 

[Ryo]

How do you determine that Pulisic and Reijnders were dependent on selling Tonali?

Chuk and RLC cost the same.

Maybe the Tonali money was spent on Chuk, Okafor, and RLC?

Or we could trust Gerry's own words when he said we didn't need to sell Tonali to buy players?

Every management has tranfer failures. Redbird's failure rate is far higher than other big clubs in Italy and previous successful regimes for our club.

Right back at you, how do you determine that they were NOT?

The first players we brought in last summer were RLC (July 1st), Christian Pulisic (July 13th) and Tiji Reijnders (July 19th).

We sold Tonali July 3rd.
Christian and Tiji were basically the first two big signings last season right after we sold Sandro.

And again, as I mentioned in the other post, Okafor, Jovic last season were not bad signings. they net us a combined 15 G&A in the league from the bench. RLC last season did his part with league goals. The only one we were complaining about last summer was Chuk, who came and did fuck all last season.

 

[Buske]

Cardinale on Americanised Milan, why he sold Tonali, Inter going 'bankrupt'

Milan owner Gerry Cardinale insisted he's not trying to 'Americanise' his club but is just trying to take it 'to the next level', also calling the act of

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From the same interview:
"Inter won the Scudetto last year and then went bankrupt (referring to the insolvent former owner, not the club itself). Is that really what we want?"
What you guys think, do we want to win a scudetto and then next year stay top of the serie A several games before end, and play in QF of Champions league?
Damn i sure wish to be bankrupt like this

 

[Samaldinho]

Right back at you, how do you determine that they were NOT?

The first players we brought in last summer were RLC (July 1st), Christian Pulisic (July 13th) and Tiji Reijnders (July 19th).

We sold Tonali July 3rd.
Christian and Tiji were basically the first two big signings last season right after we sold Sandro.

And again, as I mentioned in the other post, Okafor, Jovic last season were not bad signings. they net us a combined 15 G&A in the league from the bench. RLC last season did his part with league goals. The only one we were complaining about last summer was Chuk, who came and did fuck all last season.

Oh I know, but you are the one who made the initial claim that it was Tonali's money that is why we got Pulisic and Reijnders, and I'm not sure where you got that information.

I think the fact that the owner of the club said we did not need to sell Tonali sort of underlines that Tonali's sale was not required to buy Tiji or Pulisic.

Their track record has been very poor. Okafor, RLC, Musah, Emerson Royal, Terra, Morata, Pavlovic, Chuk, and we're currently 9th, like firmly in 9th?

Bro, their transfers last year were bad and their transfers this year were even worse. If I wanted to be pedantic, I'd make an argument that the only good transfers were because of the work of the previous regime--though I think Reijnders is a Moncada special (even if I could make an argument it wasn't)--but I think the track record of Redbird speaks for itself.

 

[Forza Rossoneri]

By which I am assuming you are suggesting sign Tonali. A player Milan never should have sold.

 

[IL-Capitano]

Right back at you, how do you determine that they were NOT?

The first players we brought in last summer were RLC (July 1st), Christian Pulisic (July 13th) and Tiji Reijnders (July 19th).

We sold Tonali July 3rd.
Christian and Tiji were basically the first two big signings last season right after we sold Sandro.

And again, as I mentioned in the other post, Okafor, Jovic last season were not bad signings. they net us a combined 15 G&A in the league from the bench. RLC last season did his part with league goals. The only one we were complaining about last summer was Chuk, who came and did fuck all last season.

No one can determine it indefinitely because none of us were at the meetings. Just as no one can determine whom pushed for every signing including Origi and FBT. Right ?

At least Pulisic and Reijnders were good signings out of several poor signings through RedBird . It still means that Tonali didn’t need to be sold to sign them.

We could have and really coild use a player like Tonali now. He may never return so we will have to move on.

The thing is RedBird have made a lot of errors, can they be trusted to amend the mess they themselves have created ?

 

[Samaldinho]

Pirlo trying to rebuild his relationship with Milan? Is he gonna be our coach or what

Pirlo was garbage after 2007. He literally strolled around the park. He would have a good game when he felt like it, if we played Real or whatever, he'd consider trying that game.

Otherwise, we got to see him just jog around, he would hit 30 long passes, occasionally one would find one of our players and people would applaud him.

With the way he treated Milan, his confusion as to why Milan fans hate him shows how Pirlo has no self awareness. It's even funnier now that Juve fans don't like him anymore.

 

[finnishhacker]

Choke on a duck harry Kane

 

[Ryo]

No one can determine it indefinitely because none of were at the meetings. Just as no one can determine whom pushed for every signing including Origi and FBT. Right ?

At least Pulisic and Reijnders were good signings out of several poor signings through RedBird . It still means that Tonali didn’t need to be sold to sign them.

We could have and really coild use a player like Tonali now. He may never return so we will have to move on.

The thing is RedBird have made a lot of errors, can they be trusted to amend the mess they themselves have created ?

Elliot made a lot of errors when they first arrived as well.

I'm not saying Gerry can redeem himself 100% for sure, but the fact that they are being shat on after one season where everything has gone against them seems a bit reactionary to me.

He was the owner when we got to the UCL Semi-Finals and (some argue) 4th place in the league, he was owner when we were second place last season.

By the same degree Elliot was our owner when we ended their first season with us (18/19) in 5th place, and then ended the subsequent year (19/20) in 6th place.

I'll complain once we consistently get midtable. But this season feels more like the 1996/97 one under Berlusconi and Sacchi when we ended 11th. Underperforming superstars, poor squad building, shit signings like Blomqvist, Edgar Davids, Christophe Duggary and Michael Reizinger that ended up sold soon after. Just a hodgepodge of shitty management decisions and poor form combined into one season. And don't forget that malaise continued into 1997/98 when we finished 10th.

 

[voom]

Great goal from Lautaro.

 

[Massaro94]

Best striker on the planet

 

[voom]

Bayern have no game, no ideas.

 

[Massaro94]

What a finish lol

 

[voom]

Bayern still have nightmares from CL final against Inter.

 

[IL-Capitano]

Elliot made a lot of errors when they first arrived as well.

I'm not saying Gerry can redeem himself 100% for sure, but the fact that they are being shat on after one season where everything has gone against them seems a bit reactionary to me.

He was the owner when we got to the UCL Semi-Finals and (some argue) 4th place in the league, he was owner when we were second place last season.

By the same degree Elliot was our owner when we ended their first season with us (18/19) in 5th place, and then ended the subsequent year (19/20) in 6th place.

I'll complain once we consistently get midtable. But this season feels more like the 1996/97 one under Berlusconi and Sacchi when we ended 11th. Underperforming superstars, poor squad building, shit signings like Blomqvist, Edgar Davids, Christophe Duggary and Michael Reizinger that ended up sold soon after. Just a hodgepodge of shitty decisions and poor form combined into one season. And don't forget that malaise continued into 1997/98 when we finished 10th.

Indeed every management has made errors even Galliani in his prime. We can all pick out several errors throughout history by multiple teams and managements.

Redbirds errors have been very self incriminating
A lot of chaos and disorder all while their formula to change the game failed spectacularly.

They were desperate to offload every summer signing in January - desperate. And this summer will be no different they will struggle to get rid of several dud signings over several windows.

This is where Milan are right now and RedBird are at the wheel.

 

[Pigeon]

marotta league on that potential thuram offside @finnishhacker?

 

[vB9]

Great goal from Lautaro.

 

[voom]

We will watch other teams in CL next year. Awful season. Even if we win coppa this year. New "revolution" again next year. New coach, a lot of sales. Who ever comes as new DS will need to work miracles if we want to be competitive again.

 

[Pb02]

All this people here defending REDTURD and Crapinale are either inter trolls or plain delusional. They keep making mistakes as of now, gonna be mid april and have yet to appoint an SD.

There is a lot of work to be done, demote or fire our incompetent and unqualified management, get their replacements, choose a coach, ship the fodders, get new signings (quality and quantity)... Fucking start moving!!!

 

[vB9]

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

Any serious human being would have the cognitive capacity to categorise the facts in a differentiated manner before making such a stupid post.

Unfortunately, you don't.

You're such a fanny some times...

And what was that sentence structure all about?

 

[voom]

To watch Lazio or Bologna in Champions League, shame for all Milanistas around the world. Vitiello said the best, Redbird destroyed 5 years of work.

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

Cardinale on Americanised Milan, why he sold Tonali, Inter going 'bankrupt'

Milan owner Gerry Cardinale insisted he's not trying to 'Americanise' his club but is just trying to take it 'to the next level', also calling the act of

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Careful now...

 

[leaf]

Pirlo was garbage after 2007. He literally strolled around the park. He would have a good game when he felt like it, if we played Real or whatever, he'd consider trying that game.

Otherwise, we got to see him just jog around, he would hit 30 long passes, occasionally one would find one of our players and people would applaud him.

With the way he treated Milan, his confusion as to why Milan fans hate him shows how Pirlo has no self awareness. It's even funnier now that Juve fans don't like him anymore.

BRB
printing this as my bumper sticker

 

[leaf]

Choke on a duck harry Kane

Autocorrect comes for us all

 

[voom]

How serious team like Bayern hired Kompany as a coach?

 

[Pigeon]

How serious team like Bayern hired Kompany as a coach?

their fans don’t have a galaxy brain to come up with petitions

 

[DonSilvio]

Best striker on the planet

He should have scored earlier too

 

[voom]

their fans don’t have a galaxy brain to come up with petitions

They obviously gambled. It's easy to dominate in Bundesliga with team they have. Against serious opponent they have no chance. But fact is ,they were always weak against teams from Milano.

 

[Pigeon]

They obviously gambled. It's easy to dominate in Bundesliga with team they have. Against serious opponent they gave no chance. But fact is ,they were always weak against teams from Milano.

they didn’t have many options after getting rejected by pretty much every one last summer

serious coaches saw how they handled tuchel and nagelsmann