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If we sell Chuck for 10m that's not that bad at all with write-offs. Origi is far worse for the books
You think someone will pay 10m?
We tried to sell him in Winter and no offers arrived.

It's hard to sell a player who's been warming the bench for the whole season, and when he did play, he looked like Serie B player. :proud:
 

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Arsenal played without 1of their best midfielders Partey, but still, they would destroy us.

Damn, we need atleast 3 top starting players in this team. Also the coach needs to go, even if he wins coppa. Changes needed
No party without Partey, no question but I think the massive gap in quality between Odegaard & Vitinha was the most damning for gooners
 

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It is getting more and more complicated to understand what is going on there at Milan. At the level of communication, one thing is certain: we don't get anything at all. And so we try to find the truths. No denials or confirmations are coming anyway

Pellegatti

Pellegatti says that the journalists have no insights and know nothing. Nothing gets out, so they speculate.

It took him one year to realize something which we know already since the previous year .
 

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Also, we've lost around 100m in the last 2 transfer windows alone. Players like Morata, Chukwueze, Royal that we won't be able to sell easily.

But yeah, let's pretend Origi is our biggest financial problem. :lol:
Well, I think that Massaro and his associates are trying to make the point that Maldini's "mistakes" are not excused by RedBird's "mistakes". To them, making comparisons between these two different management periods is not the argument. i.e. they are not taking the side of RedBird as we are with Maldini. Their main point (i think) is that Maldini is not the solution to the needs of this club. They think that Maldini is incompetent in the role that he wants to be in, which is to lead the sporting project of the club, and that he had many situations where he fell short in his duties.

If this is indeed the idea, then I don't agree with it but I can accept it if they can actually come up with better alternatives. (One of the many) problem with their argument is that they don't offer suggestions on who might do a better job than Maldini in that role. And by not doing that, the pro-Maldini side is inclined to make comparisons with the only existing alternative which is RedBird and their 'modern' approach to the role. Which is why comparisons with Chuk, Tammy, Royale .. etc come about.

They don't want to suggest better solutions to 'the Maldini problem', not even today when many names are being touted for the SD role, does anybody know who they want us to hire to solve this issue? Or are they just going to sit there and sarcastically find / create faults in the work of others? I bet it's going to be the latter. They don't want to be held against their word, despite making themselves appear to be all-knowing envisionaries, you'd think that it would be easy to identify a solution to Milan's problems.

.. how did Maldini pass up on Kvara for 12m right? Everyone knew at the time that he will be sold to PSG for 6x the amount.

So easy to claim wins in arguments after things have happened :lol:

Just remembered also, there is the notion that we should accept RedBird mediocre ambitions, that they are not competing to win as Maldini had "arrogantly" demanded of them. Well, do they want to win or not? If they don't want to win and Maldini is a mediocre manager, then why fire him?

I wonder what Massaro and Co. really think about RedBird. If they see them in a positive light, then where is the proof of their success? Or is it because they are still in charge and there's a slight chance that they may achieve some success that these naysayers don't want to make bold statements that might be used against them? I've heard them talk a lot about the mistakes of the past but very rarely do they say anything about the blatant mistakes of the present. What kinda of negative Nancy's are these people ffs.
 

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So Donnarumma joined PSG for 7M per year because it was too much for Maldini who offered 4M per year to Origi, that we're still paying

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Donnarumma and Raiola were constantly raising the stakes, and Kessie and his agent were doing the same. Maldini's mistake was that he believed Kessie's promise to extend his contract after the Olympics, where he left in August. As a result, I had to make a choice-either sell the player for pennies in the winter or leave him at Pioli's disposal until the end of the season. We won the Scudetto that season.

As for Donnarumma, he was strongly influenced by Raiola, who actually blackmailed Milan and at the same time tried to sell his ward anywhere. It could have been Juventus, for example, but Allegri vetoed the move. Raiola and dollar didn't care where they went, as long as they paid more than Milan. We could only keep the goalkeeper at the cost of destroying the salary cap imposed by Elliott and Gazidis. The club did not go for it and, by and large, they did not lose, for their money Maignan turned out to be a worthy replacement.

Maldini's mistake was Chalhanoglu's departure, Paolo decided that after the unsuccessful euro, no one needed the Turk and would still sign the agreement on his terms. And I was wrong
 

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You think someone will pay 10m?
We tried to sell him in Winter and no offers arrived.

It's hard to sell a player who's been warming the bench for the whole season, and when he did play, he looked like Serie B player. :proud:
10m was in reference to an earlier post.
 

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They have fucked up so bad, it's crazy the more I think about it.

Let's dismiss the notion that they want to win, even if that's what all the executives (and owner himself) have said multiple times. We can't believe what they said, they just said that to raise the expectations of their fans (customers) so that they could disappoint them, that's what ruthless American corporate businessmen learn at Harvard: over-promise and under-deliver. Customers love that. It's brilliant business, you should use it, it's a top tip free-of-charge from Redbird.

Let's forget that Fonseca, the martyr and saint who was the only real truth teller in Milan, kept saying (multiple times) from the start that his goal was, and I quote: "to win the Scudetto."

Let's say that's all bullshit and all they really wanted is to get top four. Cool. I'll accept that notion.

We're in fucking 9th, lol. We're behind teams who spend far less than we do, have less talent than we do, and we've went through three revolutions in two years--we've seen them make a lot of choices: who to sell, who to keep, who to buy... why should we see this summer as some sort of given that they'll turn things around?

Because they tacitly admitted to being wrong, even if they couldn't openly admit it? We're demanding the players prostrate before us and cut off their thumbs, but we're supposed to be placated by them reportedly going after an SD?

We saw what they did in January when they saw that top four was in real danger. We saw how long they kept Fonseca on, the circumstances of his firing, the context of when they appointed Conceicao, and what players they brought in--it shows where they thought the problems were and how they don't understand where they are fucking up.

Just look at their midfield recruitment the last two years. You can see their philosophy of what midfielders to buy, who to sell, because that's more glaring than Chuk being a bust, bad transfers happen, but look at the midfield unit they've rebuilt... it's terrible.

I hope that this disaster of a season is just a brief low-point before unleashing some inexplicable extended period of glory where "Berlusconi 2.0" isn't a punchline. I love winning and success more than I care about my stupid theories--but then I remember that the superior financial health of Milan over other Italian teams makes the drastic under-performance even harder for me to accept.

Inter, Napoli, Juve, Roma... none of these clubs have City, PSG, or even Bayern sorts of resources--why is competing with them for domestic titles so absurd a demand? I fundamentally don't understand that. If you want to waive away European ambitions, okay, I can understand that perspective, even if I don't fully agree with it, but I get it.

Why is expecting that we should compete for the Scudetto so absurd though? Juve and Inter have higher wage bills than we do, okay, but... Napoli might be winning their second Scudetto in three years, and we spend more money on wages than they do. Oh, they sold Kvara (to pay for Conte purchases in the summer) even if they had him for the first half of this season, so... Uh, we sold Tonali two years ago, did we make that jump? Nope.

If they fucked up the Tonali proceeds, how am I supposed to trust them if they sell Reijnders or Leao or Theo? Even if I accepted the idea that Tonali's sale was for Reijnders and Pulisic (around 40m of a ~115m summer) that still means that they wasted most of the money on Chuk and Okafor and Terra and RLC and Musah and Pellegrino and Terra, and then followed up those smash hits with Emerson, Pavlovic, Fofana, Sottil, Tammy, Morata, Walker, Bondo, Felix, and Santi. Like, why are we evening pretending there is a comparison between our previous regime and the last two years of shit?

Napoli at least have the excuse of a crazy owner, and while, yes, he is the reason that Napoli has emerged as a power in Serie A again, but you could argue he's prevented them from winning more titles with his meddling, with his magnum opus being their disaster of a season last year (with Kvara and Osimhen)--but like... if Napoli win, their second Scudetto in three years, why is demanding that Milan compete for domestic titles such a crazy thing? Why is such a demand absurd?

Frankly, I think this is where we disagree: I don't doubt Redbird's ambitions, I think they want to win, I just think they are incompetent. Top four is obviously the minimum, but they've fucked up top four so badly that to me, it is irrelevant whether their true goal is to win or to get top four, because whether they want to win or just get top four... they... they are fucking terrible. Comically terrible.

How can the conclusion be that they are anything but hilariously incompetent if you say that all they care about is top four and they're distantly 9th, not even "in the hunt" for a top four spot? We're behind Roma, who fired three coaches this season, we're behind Lazio, we're behind Bologna, and Fiorentina... and Atalanta... Jeez, we're also behind Juventus... it's just... how can you be this fucking bad?

My only hope is that their financial incentives to get Milan into the top four override their incompetence next season, but my fear, now, is that even that won't work.
Well, when put like that...

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I fully fucking agree mate, and you know I've questioned RedBurds ability and decisions pretty much from day one.

Why they didn't enter Milan and give a larger war chest to management to build on what was already there was the moment I had doubts.

San Paolo trying to turn water into wine with the £50 million he was given is one thing. Wasting the summer chasing Moncada's picks was another, in the absence of wiggle room financially to actually get some of the names we were chasing.

Orphans can talk about Enzo or Alvarez was it, or Calafiori, or whatever French/African Pokémon Moncada unearthed.

Mistakes by management were made from the moment Gerry took the keys.

Call it a guy feeling but I just doubted his ability to MMGA... He's a leach, maybe a clever one. But he's out of his depth and we're sinking!!!
 

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Also, we've lost around 100m in the last 2 transfer windows alone. Players like Morata, Chukwueze, Royal that we won't be able to sell easily.

But yeah, let's pretend Origi is our biggest financial problem. :lol:
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See, it's not that hard to understand...
 

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It took him one year to realize something which we know already since the previous year .
Yet we eat up the speculation and assumptions like candy lol... Yummy.

It's fun let's be honest.
 

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Seen we were linked to him in October..
People are convinced he's a generational talent.

He's a talent, that's for sure. He needs another year or two of first-team football before he's ready for Europe. For that reason, I'd rather go for Nico Paz. Similarly left-footed Argentinian, but 6'1" and already played in Madrid's Castilla. First season in Italy and 6 goals, numerous assists.
 

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every time donnie has a good game people forget how he singlehandedly got psg eliminated from CL like 3 years in a row :lol:

also he was asking us for more than he gets at psg now, he had to take that cause literally no other big club offered him a spot.

can't believe there's donnarumma orphans still. we literally offered him armband, 7m+bonuses + a no CL clause and he didn't reply.

there's no scenario where he's worth that especially with mike being available at the time. sure he was injured and out of form sometimes but when you draw the line he's a better leader, doesn't stirr shit up and the only thing mike doesn't have on him is health. donnie might have higher peaks w shot stopping but he's a 3m tall tard that can't claim a cross and routinely starts rushing out for no reason with his snail like speed and gifts teams goals
 
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every time donnie has a good game people forget how he singlehandedly got psg eliminated from CL like 3 years in a row :lol:

also he was asking us for more than he gets at psg now, he had to take that cause literally no other big club offered him a spot.

can't believe there's donnarumma orphans still. we literally offered him armband, 7m+bonuses + a no CL clause and he didn't reply
Yeah, fuck him.
 

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Guys i really want to attend the final in Rome but im confused.

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Arsenal played without 1of their best midfielders Partey, but still, they would destroy us.

Damn, we need atleast 3 top starting players in this team. Also the coach needs to go, even if he wins coppa. Changes needed
Partey was available for free btw before arsenal signed him. Iirc
 

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He's a talent, that's for sure. He needs another year or two of first-team football before he's ready for Europe. For that reason, I'd rather go for Nico Paz. Similarly left-footed Argentinian, but 6'1" and already played in Madrid's Castilla. First season in Italy and 6 goals, numerous assists.

Even if he is a generational talent, he will cost €50 million or more. That's quite a lot for a bet. And if there's one place where you can manage to ruin a talent like that, it's Italy.
 

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Well, I think that Massaro and his associates are trying to make the point that Maldini's "mistakes" are not excused by RedBird's "mistakes". To them, making comparisons between these two different management periods is not the argument. i.e. they are not taking the side of RedBird as we are with Maldini. Their main point (i think) is that Maldini is not the solution to the needs of this club. They think that Maldini is incompetent in the role that he wants to be in, which is to lead the sporting project of the club, and that he had many situations where he fell short in his duties.

If this is indeed the idea, then I don't agree with it but I can accept it if they can actually come up with better alternatives. (One of the many) problem with their argument is that they don't offer suggestions on who might do a better job than Maldini in that role. And by not doing that, the pro-Maldini side is inclined to make comparisons with the only existing alternative which is RedBird and their 'modern' approach to the role. Which is why comparisons with Chuk, Tammy, Royale .. etc come about.

They don't want to suggest better solutions to 'the Maldini problem', not even today when many names are being touted for the SD role, does anybody know who they want us to hire to solve this issue? Or are they just going to sit there and sarcastically find / create faults in the work of others? I bet it's going to be the latter. They don't want to be held against their word, despite making themselves appear to be all-knowing envisionaries, you'd think that it would be easy to identify a solution to Milan's problems.

.. how did Maldini pass up on Kvara for 12m right? Everyone knew at the time that he will be sold to PSG for 6x the amount.

So easy to claim wins in arguments after things have happened :lol:

Just remembered also, there is the notion that we should accept RedBird mediocre ambitions, that they are not competing to win as Maldini had "arrogantly" demanded of them. Well, do they want to win or not? If they don't want to win and Maldini is a mediocre manager, then why fire him?

I wonder what Massaro and Co. really think about RedBird. If they see them in a positive light, then where is the proof of their success? Or is it because they are still in charge and there's a slight chance that they may achieve some success that these naysayers don't want to make bold statements that might be used against them? I've heard them talk a lot about the mistakes of the past but very rarely do they say anything about the blatant mistakes of the present. What kinda of negative Nancy's are these people ffs.
The Atalanta SD
Or marotta
That’s the solution

Well marotta is impossible right now so Atalanta SD it is.
 

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Oh and for the stat people i checked and this season mike and don have the exact same PSxG-GA (Post shot expected goals - goals allowed)

Which was the stat we saw Mike had dropped in significantly in vs the scudetto szn.

So yeah the fat baldie can fk himself, literally 0 regrets about sending him away without even telling him we signed another keeper. one of the most directorial moves maldini ever made

bum gk acting like he was our jordan
 

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Oh and for the stat people i checked and this season mike and don have the exact same PSxG-GA (Post shot expected goals - goals allowed)

Which was the stat we saw Mike had dropped in significantly in vs the scudetto szn.

So yeah the fat baldie can fk himself, literally 0 regrets about sending him away without even telling him we signed another keeper. one of the most directorial moves maldini ever made

bum gk acting like was our jordan
Fair enough but we lost money on that piece of shit and that’s on the management which includes maldini

No way around it

Having said that yes, I wouldn’t want him back. Can’t deny that he is a great keeepr though.
 

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Fair enough but we lost money on that piece of shit and that’s on the management which includes maldini

No way around it

Having said that yes, I wouldn’t want him back. Can’t deny that he is a great keeepr though.
I called him leaving for free when mirabelli gave in to his demands and overpaid him the first time around. he was always either gonna extort the club again or leave for free.
and big clubs didn't really need a gk when he left so even if he's valued at a lot if there's no demand there's nothing you can do about it

even if there were big clubs interested in GKs most start with looking at GKs that can help w buildup; not with one that even now in 2025, after a decade of people telling him he sucks w the ball at his feet, has some of the worst passing stats and touches percentile. statistically he ranks bottom in passing long even from his goal kicks :lol: like yeah shot-stopping talent is there but he woulda been a hard one to sell at his perceived value, especially considering he's barely shown an ability to improve past the age of 20
 
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All this talk about bad transfers and going back and forth misses the overall point. Football clubs are built for cycles. One, two, even a half dozen bad transfers can happen as long as you get the team's core right and hopefully start a cycle. Players can be sold, loaned, or waited for, but the ultimate goal is to have a competitive squad over two competitions for 3-4 years. Ricky and Paolo almost created that (we weren't competitive in two comps), won a league, and got to a CL-semi. Instead of building upon it, RedBird tore it down to do their cycle and robbed Milanisti of the penultimate season of the prior director's cycle. And what did we get for it? A 2nd place followed by a midtable finish? We have to ask what was the point?

The dream is that we actually get an SD who understands the need to build a competitive cycle. The current management is too ignorant and arrogant to realize that. In my opinion, players like Rafa and Theo are great when they're on their game, but they can't be relied upon consistently. Its time to sell smartly and well, and build something new around Reinders, Fofana, Pulisic, Maignan, Pavlovic... with space left open for Liberali and Camarda to grow into.
 

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Fair enough but we lost money on that piece of shit and that’s on the management which includes maldini
If the player wants to fuck over the club and leave on Bosman, there is very little you can do when said players don't make their real plans apparent until the last week of contract. Yet people play this drum every other week in here.
 

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If the player wants to fuck over the club and leave on Bosman, there is very little you can do when said players don't make their real plans apparent until the last week of contract. Yet people play this drum every other week in here.
Whose fault is it to be in that position?
 
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