The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

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Rooney wasn’t good for England but they misused that group of players so bad(plus other countries were stacked too back then, so annoying when teenage prem fans see the 2006 England team and wonder why they didn’t win shit lmao.)
I have to disagree
It's more like England wasn't good enough for Rooney
For fuck sake he had to play as CM later because there was a lack of good mids
No wonder they lost to Iceland
 

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I have to disagree
It's more like England wasn't good enough for Rooney
For fuck sake he had to play as CM later because there was a lack of good mids
No wonder they lost to Iceland
I don’t disagree just meant he didn’t really score a lot for them or have big tournaments outside of euro 2004

He was much better than that for sure that’s basically what I was saying
 

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Its too early to add Haaland there now .

For me in no particular order apart from the first name;
Alan Shearer
Kane
Andy Cole
Henry
Drogba

Honourable mention:Salah,Rooney,Nisterooy,Owen,Defoe
Robbie Keane over Defoe
 
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Retegui is a system player

When you see him play for Italy against all the best players from other top nations, that would give you the real picture of his ability
He is trash in every game I have seen him play.

System players can never step up in big clubs. He will 100% fail. He is basically another hojlund type fodder.
It's a strange situation because he looks world class at Atalanta, scores in every way possible, is capo-cannoniere by a large margin, but is fodder with Italy. The fault has to lie with Spalletti that doesn't use him in the right tactical set-up. Under Gasperini Retegui often plays with Lookman and CDK right behind him in a 3-4-2-1 formation or at tmes two strikers. Spalletti plays a 3-5-1-1 with the striker too isolated that gets very little support.

I would give Gimenez a chance since they spent 35 million for him and at that price it would be luxury that we can't afford to use him as a back-up. At some point Camarda deserves a chance to show what he can do at the Serie A level, was phenomenal vs Monza that granted was the worst team in the league, but all his movements were spot on, perfect positioning, and good hold-up play.
 
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We asking for more and they still haven't walked away from the table?
arnold schwarzenegger doubletake GIF

Tare must’ve sensed Conte sees Musah as a chance to make up for missing Iturbo.
 

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Robbie Keane over Defoe
Defoe have 36goals more than Robbie keane....i think he also had a record of scoring the most goals as a sub then if i remember correctly. I'm sure the record must have been broken by now. That's not taking away anything from the Irish legend but I had to choose one from the so i had to go for Defoe
 

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"We did sell our best player and top scorer for the very first offer we had. Now to sell Musah, its a different thing, we gonna give Napoli a hard time, we think we can get more money for this bench player of ours".

Giorgio Furlani
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#irony
 

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But clubs (the money ones) keep paying it.

There are only a handful of players that are truly worth disrupting everything for and if you dont have one of them then maybe you should just move on from greedy underperformers and give new ones a chance. The NFL may have it right in that sense in that only certain positions are highly valued and even in that position if you arent living up to what is expected, most franchises move on quickly.

I will never put it on the players. They should ask for what they think they can get because in all of capitalism the employee usually is going to get screwed.

This sounds more like wnot being able to compete with the insane money EPL is generating and since they cant tap directly into that pie they want to blame players.
Absolutely, the players should try to get whatever they can. They have relatively short careers on average. The clubs are at fault because they need to stop putting up with these players’ whining since their wages are far higher than their marginal product of labor. These players negotiated their contracts, there is nothing to complain about. Filing complaints to governing bodies over contracts you signed is acting in bad faith. If you don’t want to do it, these clubs will find someone else.
 

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I think ADL is too smart for that to ever happen. He's the one that saved the club from bankrupcy in 2004 with the club in Serie C paying next to nothing and has made them a powerhouse . Since returning to Serie A in 2007/08 Napoli has won 2 scudetti, 3 Coppa Italias, made the Champions' League 10 times and Europa League 5. (yes some of them after being out of CL).

We can only dream of achieving those results in that time-span, all done we healthy finances, no borrowing, and one owner only.
we've had 4 since ADL at Napoli with one forced to sell, one failing because unable to pay his debts, and the last with disastrous sporting results. Napoli has just had one terrible season, but has been able to afford and/or develop champions like Cavani, Higuain, Osimhen, Mertens, Hamsik, Kvara, Koulibaly, Insigne, Jorginho, Allan, and many others.

I would be happy as hell to swap ADL for RedBird as our owner, but for some reason Napoli keeps getting under-valued and under-estimated by many. So, no, Napoli is at no risk of being bankrupt because they sell players at huge plusvalenze while replacing them with equal if not better players. They can afford to spend 200 million in the transfer market with the sales of Kvara and Osimhen among others, afford 7 million salary for KDB and 8 for Conte who gets a raise from 6.5, while we cheap out with Fonseca and Conceicao.

I'm a huge Milan fan but I like to be objective when I rate the strenght of our rivals.
I agree. What I mean is the after party. We've been there, having a owner who cares, gives you constance, bring results.. its heaven.
 

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he doesn't have to explain, he's paid big bucks to perform for us and wants himself to be at his best :proud:

USMNT are scrubs, it's better he prioritizes us vs. some scrub who rush back from injuries to get injured again for their national team :o
But it has to be said that the number of games has gotten way too high
 

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"We did sell our best player and top scorer for the very first offer we had. Now to sell Musah, its a different thing, we gonna give Napoli a hard time, we think we can get more money for this bench player of ours".

Giorgio Furlani
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#irony
Maintaining good relations with clubs is always a good thing.

Look at our relationship with Chelsea. We sent them Sheva 20 years ago, and that relationship stayed strong to this day when they loaned us Tomori, then sold us Giroud for 1M, both of whom contributed massively to win us #19. Then Pulisic for 20M, and loaned us Felix.

Maybe in the coming years, we can grab some good players from their scraps. :taphead:
 

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And yet, whoever keeps demanding higher wages, obscene bonusesand astronomical signing fees shouldn’t act surprised when the system starts inventing new revenue streams to feed the beast.

Clubs that actually make money – not propped up by Gulf-state subsidies or inflated by shady sponsorship deals – have become a rare breed. Europe’s elite football is drowning in debt. Even Bayern Munich, long hailed as a model club, is now reportedly tapping into Dubai’s state cash through backdoor deals.

So when players and their entourages push salary demands past the breaking point, they’re not just draining bank accounts – they’re fueling the physical and economic burnout of the game.

At least transfer fees stay within football’s ecosystem. They finance new signings, youth academies, stadium upgrades. But salaries and agent commissions? They vanish into yachts, sports cars and gated mansions. That money doesn’t grow the game – it bleeds it dry.

To afford this luxury, the calendar gets packed tighter. New competitions have to get invented. It's mainly on the players to stop this madness IMO, no the clubs who barely make any money anyway.
Agree . We will see what it will happen . I think without some cap to fees and salaries there will be no result .
 

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Longo - Sky confirms the presence of West Ham in the negotiaitons for Musah. Milan is asking for 27M from Napoli, and the clubs will try to meet Monday to close the deal.
Why sell someone Monday when you can give them the boot today
 

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Agree . We will see what it will happen . I think without some cap to fees and salaries there will be no result .
It will go under the table deals. Whatever shit psg did with Neymar’s daddy.

Either cabal like nfl, super league or let them go through boom and bust which will cause more anger because these football clubs are last things the cities have and they have been milking these cities.

Too many football clubs in a place like Europe.

Except real is there a successful club without some oil money? Hope Manu never recovers. Arsenal has money
 

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Why sell someone Monday when you can give them the boot today
Because if it becomes a bidding war...... The longer it goes for, the higher the money we get for him.
25M is good, but 27M is better, and who knows, if West Ham is indeed interested, then 30M+ is best.
Woody Harrelson Crying GIF

Not to mention if he went to West Ham, we don't have to worry about Conte turning him into a good player in Serie A anymore.
 

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I think the opposite, grew up around United fans and I think Rooney is underrated even though I don’t really like him

Dude could drop in to midfield and spray passes across the whole field while also covering tons of ground and scoring a lot
 

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