The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

[pippofan]

Strange phenomena indeed.

Hating legends of your club and continually ridiculing them is equally head scratching

That's why you have to separate the player from the man.

 

[Jivara]

Tomorrow or the day after there will be a meeting between Cardinale, Furlani, Tare and Allegri

How fast will Allegri run to the car afterwards?

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Getting ballondor players past their prime doesn’t mean shit

You have to get them when they are in their primes or atleast have the opportunity to hit their primes with us to attain the ballondor

That’s why rivaldo fat Ronaldo and Ronaldinho were all shit deals.

Papin I can understand.

Also baggio never was in his prime with us

 

[pippofan]

How fast will Allegri run to the car afterwards?

He'll be thinking: "WTF have I gotten myself into?

 

[Wild]

You could use ChatGPT

parameters:

unique balon d or winners who won at or before playing for the club

madrid 12
milan 11
juventus 7
barca 6

 

1. Real Madrid
12 players

1. Alfredo Di Stéfano
2. Raymond Kopa
3. Luís Figo (won in 2000 at Madrid)
4. Ronaldo Nazário (won in 1997 & 2002, joined Madrid in 2002)
5. Fabio Cannavaro (won in 2006 at Madrid)
6. Kaká (won 2007, joined Madrid in 2009)
7. Michael Owen (won 2001, joined Madrid in 2004)
8. Zinedine Zidane (won 1998, joined Madrid in 2001)
9. Cristiano Ronaldo (won in 2008 before joining; also won at Madrid)
10. Luka Modrić (won in 2018 at Madrid)
11. Karim Benzema (won in 2022 at Madrid)
12. Ricardo Kopa (1958, at Madrid)

Total: 12


2. AC Milan
11 players

1. Gianni Rivera
2. Ruud Gullit
3. Marco van Basten
4. Jean-Pierre Papin
5. Roberto Baggio
6. George Weah
7. Andriy Shevchenko
8. Kaká
9. Ronaldinho
10. Rivaldo
11. Ronaldo Nazário

Total: 11

3. Barcelona
6 players

1. Luis Suárez Miramontes (won 1960 before Barça)
2. Johan Cruyff (won 1971, 1973, 1974 — first before, others at Barça)
3. Hristo Stoichkov (won in 1994 at Barça)
4. Rivaldo (won 1999 at Barça)
5. Ronaldinho (won 2005 at Barça)
6. Lionel Messi (won 2009–2021 at Barça)

Total: 6

Note: Players like Figo and Ronaldo won the Ballon d’Or after leaving Barça.

Juventus
7 players

1. Omar Sivori (won 1961 at Juve)
2. Paolo Rossi (1982 at Juve)
3. Michel Platini (1983, 1984, 1985 at Juve)
4. Roberto Baggio (1993 at Juve)
5. Zinedine Zidane (1998 at Juve)
6. Pavel Nedvěd (2003 at Juve)
7. Fabio Cannavaro (2006 — won after leaving Juve, does not count)
8. Cristiano Ronaldo (won in 2008 before joining Juve in 2018)
   
   
   Total: 7
   
   
   (Previously I mistakenly included Cannavaro.)

Only players who won it playing for team should be counted.
We should loose half of our inflated record

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Vlahovic muani
Guerra and modric plus Xhaka
Leoni
Rb

Would be decent

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Only players who won it playing for team should be counted.
We should loose half of our inflated record

Exactly. It doesn’t mean shit when you sign Messi or Ronaldo now

 

[Dulcepenetrante]

Only players who won it playing for team should be counted.
We should loose half of our inflated record

• Real Madrid: 8 wins by 8 players—all of them won while wearing the white shirt.
• Barcelona, Juventus, AC Milan: each have 6 unique winners who secured the accolade during their time at the club.
• Manchester United and Bayern Munich follow with 4 and 3 unique in-club winners respectively.

Note: Other clubs (e.g., Dynamo Kyiv, Inter Milan, Hamburg) also have in-club wins, but their totals fall outside the top five.

 

[Berlusconi]

What would they need to negotiate with us when the issue is HIS salary

When we swapped Torres for cerci, we continued paying Torres salary while they paid cerci’s

 

[grandeacm2]

I probably didn't explain it well enough but meant that a player fresh from balon d'or award the season before didn't produce as expected and was sold after two seasons. Had a great career overall, thougr

JPP did well for us but struggled with injuries in his second season
20 goals in 34 matches first season
11 goals in 29 matches second season
A bunch of these were sub appearances and not starts

After that he left at 30/31 years of age to Bayern but struggled with injuries even worse and it's there where he actually failed big
3 goals in 12 matches for Bayern 1st season
3 goals in 28 matches for Bayern 2nd season
No my friend, Milan got fortunate in comparison... we got one great season and one decent one out of him

All in all he was much better for us than for example Rivaldo who even though had been fantastic for Brazil in their 2002 WC win he was actually finished the moment he came to us and was such a huge flop that he won the inaugural Bidone D'or

 

[Berlusconi]

More Balkans please. granit? What a wonderful name hope he is good.


Give a scouting report. Is he like Balkan Carlo ancelotti in midfield?

Granit with a bunch of Serbians he fought against and eliminated from the World Cup twice in the same team, should be entertaining

 

[Ashish]

Granit with a bunch of Serbians he fought against and eliminated from the World Cup twice in the same team, should be entertaining

That’s true Yugoslavia. I have a jersey ready when they kill each other. Hope Gerry release 25 year one to make money.

Can’t wait for so many flamini level red cards

 

[CapitanoMaldini]

 

[grandeacm2]

Getting ballondor players past their prime doesn’t mean shit

You have to get them when they are in their primes or atleast have the opportunity to hit their primes with us to attain the ballondor

That’s why rivaldo fat Ronaldo and Ronaldinho were all shit deals.

Papin I can understand.

Also baggio never was in his prime with us

Sorry but half of this is bs
We got Rivaldo the same season he won WC on Bosman, we couldn't have predicted him flopping
Baggio was definitely on prime with us, that's crazy talk
He could never gel with big clubs who didn't play heroball and built the team around him though but he did okay enough

BTW it's arguable if JPP would have won 1991 Ballon D'or if Yugo war didn't break out
You could argue Savicevic was robbed that year

The discussion was moreso B spending a lot on Ballon D'or tier players or players who had already won it
As for having to get players before they win Ballon there were plenty of those we bought but we didn't always get lucky

BTW Ballon D'or has always been bullshit
I looked up 1963 when Milan won their first CL and Altafini is so low on the list that it's frankly insulting

1963 Ballon d'Or - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is the same season where Altafini set the record for ECC/CL goals which didn't get broken for like 50+ years by Cristiano at Real Madrid
He should have been easily at least in the top 3, France Football magazine is a joke

 

[Allan_Sombrero]

Get Javi and we are really cooking in midfield.

Next up is defense.

 

[leaf]

Getting ballondor players past their prime doesn’t mean shit

You have to get them when they are in their primes or atleast have the opportunity to hit their primes with us to attain the ballondor

That’s why rivaldo fat Ronaldo and Ronaldinho were all shit deals.

Papin I can understand.

Also baggio never was in his prime with us

Ronaldo wasn't "THE Ronaldo" here. But he helped us in the 2007 CL season.
I have his jersey. You have no idea how happy I was with him in a Milan jersey.
Hell I used to be an insufferable twat when the guys came over to play playstation.
Overall, we'd probably been better off with Eto'o but unserstood the emotion* of football fans

He may have overdone it also


(*utterly lacking logic)

 

[Congo Powers]

Is he better than krunic?

 

[grandeacm2]

plz be fake

 

[sheva]

We're playing heardball for the player which means we know there's something there. He was scouted because there is something there.

If Conte has wanted him this bad for this long (this goes back months now) then I'd be hesitant to sell, provided Max wants to keep him.

But I like that we're making Napoli pony up... Mgmt playing it well, they KNOW Conte re-signed w the assurance he'd get what he wants

Interesting take

 

[grandeacm2]

Ronaldo wasn't "THE Ronaldo" here. But he helped us in the 2007 CL season.
I have his jersey. You have no idea how happy I was with him in a Milan jersey.
Hell I used to be an insufferable twat when the guys came over to play playstation.
Overall, we'd probably been better off with Eto'o but unserstood the emotion* of football fans

He may have overdone it also


(*utterly lacking logic)

Ronaldinho was the one we chose over Eto'o, not Ronaldo
Ronaldo we got for 8 million on January so we didn't exactly break the bank for him

When he retired in 2011, I felt football was never the same after that
Saw his testimonial match for Brazil, he didn't even score that match... it was hard to believe that he was retiring

 

[CapitanoMaldini]

 

[Massaro94]

Sneijder should have been included in the Kaka deal.
Same as Drogba in the Sheva.
But for that you need a shrewd SD & G wasnt that.

If i could turn back time

Flog Kaka to city for 100M in January 2009

Then when Real began their firewall

Buy KJH, Robben and Sneijder in the summer for around 50-60M

We would have been set for years with those 3.

We also would have stopped inter winning their only ucl in the last 60 years (thank you PSG) ... and Bayern would never have become the force they did with Robbery

 

[Massaro94]

Another Ballon D'or winner who played for Milan I forgot
Roberto Baggio
Fuck me I can't keep up with all these Ballon D'or winners who played for us

This is why I'd never disrespect Berlusconi

He spoilt us rotten, and people on here show more love for a lb than the guy who actually put it altogether

Morons

 

[Wild]

If i could turn back time

Flog Kaka to city for 100M in January 2009

Then when Real began their firewall

Buy KJH, Robben and Sneijder in the summer for around 50-60M

We would have been set for years with those 3.

We also would have stopped inter winning their only ucl in the last 60 years (thank you PSG) ... and Bayern would never have become the force they did with Robbery

Idiocy back then was insane.
It was like G doing it on purpose because no one is that stupid.

 

[grandeacm2]

If i could turn back time

Flog Kaka to city for 100M in January 2009

Then when Real began their firewall

Buy KJH, Robben and Sneijder in the summer for around 50-60M

We would have been set for years with those 3.

We also would have stopped inter winning their only ucl in the last 60 years (thank you PSG) ... and Bayern would never have become the force they did with Robbery

Kaka didn't want to go to City at the time unfortunately
Agree with Robben and Sneijder but not with Hunter because he failed here
I would have gone Robben, Sneijder and Eto'o instead
Would have also sold Pirlo and gotten Xabi Alonso for midfield

 

[Massaro94]

Idiocy back then was insane.
It was like G doing it on purpose because no one is that stupid.

He should have forced Kaka out...if real.wanted him so badly he should have told them to cough up more than the 70 they paid for him.

But hindsight is a wonderful thing. Who would have thought robben would go onto peak like he did.

The guy was amazing for so long. Bayern got robbery for 50M

And they terrorised europes best for the better part of a decade

They have to be the greatest wing pairing I've seen in my lifetime.

Perfect combo

Robben the selfish cunt and Frank the provider.

Lvg deserves alot of credit for bringing the best out of those 2.

 

[Massaro94]

Kaka didn't want to go to City at the time unfortunately
Agree with Robben and Sneijder but not with Hunter because he failed here
I would have gone Robben, Sneijder and Eto'o instead
Would have also sold Pirlo and gotten Xabi Alonso for midfield

Hunter didn't fail here. He just wasn't given enough time. The guy was class... I dont care what anyone says. He went to schalke and destroyed it

 

[Wild]

He should have forced Kaka out...if real.wanted him so badly he should have told them to cough up more than the 70 they paid for him.

But hindsight is a wonderful thing. Who would have thought robben would go onto peak like he did.

The guy was amazing for so long. Bayern got robbery for 50M

And they terrorised europes best for the better part of a decade

They have to be the greatest wing pairing I've seen in my lifetime.

Perfect combo

Robben the selfish cunt and Frank the provider.

Lvg deserves alot of credit for bringing the best out of those 2.

Didnt need to force him to City, but ffs get some players in exchange from Real.
Maybe Robben was a gamble.
But it was ibvious about Drogba, Sneijder, Tevez, Crespo & many players.
Dzeko was dying to join & Ibra.
Just bad decision after bad decision.

 

[vB9]

Claudia Cardinale and Monica Bellucci are stunning... and the most famous among them all. Sophia Loren, I get the hype over her, but no.

Once Upon a Time in the West
Monica Bellucci's daughter is stunning

 

[grandeacm2]

Vlahovic muani
Guerra and modric plus Xhaka
Leoni
Rb

Would be decent

I don't want to thumbs down your post but that looks kinda bad