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Who would you like to see Thiaw replaced with?


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Yea agreed
I always dint rate him amongst best strikers because he was basically a poacher although an elite one.

But I have learnt to appreciate how good he was. Would I have preferred ibra or etoo over him? Absolutely. At the time I mean.

Would we have won ucls with ibra who chokes under pressure in ucl? I don’t think so. We would have won 5 straight Scudetti though even in the rigged fodder a league. No amount of rube or inter cheating could stop that if ibra played for Milan in that era.

Would I swap 5 straight scudetti for 2 ucl?
No chance.

Etoo though? Yea fuck yes I would have swapped and we should have bought him over Ronaldinho. That was the beginning of the end of Milan. We are still recovering from that blunder.

But we can only move forward from here on.

Also Pippa gets underrated as I mentioned before. His value was the timing of his runs and the amount of movement around the box which created chaos. And he was a massive big game player. I always rate players who step up very highly. That’s why drogba is one of my favourite strikers of all time. God, I would have killed to have a player like drogba in Milan back in mid 2000.

Pippa also was a great finisher and good with headers. His high iq to be at the right place at the right time plus combo of movement and timing of his runs made him lethal. Not a complete forward but if you have good passers behind him he would be devastating.

Like haaland without the speed but Pippa had much higher iq and better off the ball movement. And Pippo was a far better big game player. Not choker like haaland.
Pippo arguably had the best attacking movement of any #9 in history

He had no business being as productive as he was, given how shit he was physically and technically

Santi is like a Black Friday sale Pippo
 
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RLC’s vision and decision making is diabolically bad. He’ll never be anything more than a glorified Nocerino (deep lying auxiliary poacher)
 
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The confusion is true,
We all thought he was brought in as CF. Now he openly says “i like AM”.

No wonder Allegri is not happy.

Whoever push for this transfer was cringe.


I liked the idea of 352 with Leao as CF and another player, like Zirkzee, Hojlund, or Vlahovic.

If Allegri wins with 3atb vs Bologna, good.


But now with Nkuku, mentioning number 10, here are all the players:


-----------Leao-------------------------------------------Pulisic---------------
----------------------------------Nkuku


----------------------Jashari------------Ricci--------------------------------

--------------------------------Fofana-----------------------------------------

--Estupinan--------Bartesaghi----De Winter---------Athekame--

------------------------------------MM


Bartesaghi / De Winter / Pavlovic / Gabbia / Tomori / Odogu

Athekame / F. Terracciano

Jashari / Ricci / Modric

Fofana / Rabiot

Pulisic / Saelemaekers

knowing that Allegri liked Boateng, and iirc he used to bring him closer and closer to the goal with time, he might do the same with RLC
Nkuku / RLC / Gimenez

Adli might surprise

MM / Torriani (new Donnarumma)

and should have kept Jimenez

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allegri might also play with Modric as regista
 
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Bro the article is an op ed.
Of course it is, but it's a well reasoned one.
I think outside of the personal opinions theres some really good info there. It quantifies and confirms what many were already thinking. Leaos rare combination of skills and attributes is why people cant deny his talent and potential. But also he has a low defensive work rate even amongst his peers which makes people call him lazy. Not just that but even when gets into good positions to score, hes not an elite shooter (low shot placement). In theory those should be things that can be learned and trained, or at least thats the dream that is often sold. But unless he improves either end product or defensive workrate, he wont break into the argument of being a world beater.

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But Allegri is not playing that game. He's not going to be like Pioli or Conceicao or Fonseca, shouting at Leao to get back to track the fullbacks, or to praise him whenever he hustles and presses and tries to win the ball back.

Allegri accepts Leao for who he is, and wants to unleash the superpower he has without caring about the negative side. That's entirely the reasoning behind our switch to 352. It's literally all about putting Leao in a position where he's an asset and not a liability. We defend in a way that doesn't care what Leao is doing, and attack by maximizing his superpowers.

Allegri wants Leao to basically forget about defending. Maybe annoy the CBs with a light press, but that's it. He won't waste his energy. Out of possession, Leao will try to find spaces attack once we win possession and then burst forward as the outball, hopefully with the other CF helping him create space, or bouncing a direct ball into his path.

Once we have the ball and are camped in the final third, Leao will shift to his favorite left side zone and try to beat his man for a cross or a shot, while someone else is in the box waiting to finish the chances he creates.

Allegri wants the Leao that runs the entire length of the pitch during quick transitions. He wants the Leao that can beat his man over and over again on the left wing in sustained possession. He does NOT want a Leao that is in our third, blocking crosses and tracking overlaps by fullbacks.
 
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I liked the idea of 352 with Leao as CF and another player, like Zirkzee, Hojlund, or Vlahovic.
In terms of link up and creating chances for a partner, Nkunku is right up there with those guys. Leao + Nkunku as a pair (doesn't matter who's the "CF" in this case) is really potent when there's space.

It's the low block situations where we'll suffer.
 
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Of course it is, but it's a well reasoned one.

But Allegri is not playing that game. He's not going to be like Pioli or Conceicao or Fonseca, shouting at Leao to get back to track the fullbacks, or to praise him whenever he hustles and presses and tries to win the ball back.

Allegri accepts Leao for who he is, and wants to unleash the superpower he has without caring about the negative side. That's entirely the reasoning behind our switch to 352. It's literally all about putting Leao in a position where he's an asset and not a liability. We defend in a way that doesn't care what Leao is doing, and attack by maximizing his superpowers.

Allegri wants Leao to basically forget about defending. Maybe annoy the CBs with a light press, but that's it. He won't waste his energy. Out of possession, Leao will try to find spaces attack once we win possession and then burst forward as the outball, hopefully with the other CF helping him create space, or bouncing a direct ball into his path.

Once we have the ball and are camped in the final third, Leao will shift to his favorite left side zone and try to beat his man for a cross or a shot, while someone else is in the box waiting to finish the chances he creates.

Allegri wants the Leao that runs the entire length of the pitch during quick transitions. He wants the Leao that can beat his man over and over again on the left wing in sustained possession. He does NOT want a Leao that is in our third, blocking crosses and tracking overlaps by fullbacks.

Yeah I agree, playing in a front two is a good solution. Low defensive workrate is far more common place for SS/ST.

Plus overall with Allegri we’re expected to be scoring less, so i dont think many will care if his output isnt that high. At that point youre not sacrificing much to keep him on the pitch.
 

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Pulisic trequartista
Modric regista / Ricci and Jashari


-----------Leao------------------------------Gimenez--------------

--------------------------------Pulisic

----------------------Rabiot------------Fofana-------------------------------

--------------------------------Modric-----------------------------------------


------Estupinan--------Pavlovic----Gabbia---------Athekame------

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Retegui also had an assist on Kean's goal, a back heel pass that showed real class that very few can replicate. Before Atalanta I thought he was average but now I changed my mind: talented striker that can do it all and it's a shame he's wasting his talent in the Saudi League.

I was obviously being sarcastic for him celebrating a win over a team that's lower ranked in the FIFA rankings than Kosovo Albania.

Retegui is twice and thrice the player Embolo is. But I don't need a win over mighty Estonia to make that point.
 
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In terms of link up and creating chances for a partner, Nkunku is right up there with those guys. Leao + Nkunku as a pair (doesn't matter who's the "CF" in this case) is really potent when there's space.

It's the low block situations where we'll suffer.

TBF, I don't feel like this is a "Milan exclusive"-thing. It's always the low block teams who drive you crazy, no matter if you're Real, Barca, City or Milan.
 
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RLC’s vision and decision making is diabolically bad. He’ll never be anything more than a glorified Nocerino (deep lying auxiliary poacher)
Which is ecaxtly what we need. We have more than enough playmakers.
 
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TBF, I don't feel like this is a "Milan exclusive"-thing. It's always the low block teams who drive you crazy, no matter if you're Real, Barca, City or Milan.
The best answer is to have outside the area shooters.
Modric is for sure that & we will see about Nkunku.
Oh and Rabiot is also one.
If Fofana, LC & maybe Ricci work on their shooting that would be an asset.
Other answer is a target man with headers & its why i wanted Dusan but he didnt come so we wont have that.
 
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Was RLCs performance against PSG the best individual performance post banter era by a player not named Theo or Leao?

Crazy he cant be consistent. We need 70% of that RLC and we good
 
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Which is ecaxtly what we need. We have more than enough playmakers.
Perhaps, but at that point I’d rather find a way to get 3 attackers on the field at the same time

I don’t think RLC really offers enough off the ball to make up for the odd goal that he’s going to score
 
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Perhaps, but at that point I’d rather find a way to get 3 attackers on the field at the same time

I don’t think RLC really offers enough off the ball to make up for the odd goal that he’s going to score
RLC if he's not scoring is frustrating. He slows the game down when the team is on the break (helping our opponents), he dribbles into alleys, and doesn't pass the ball when he should.

Few deny RLC's talent, he has all the tools to be an insane player.

But we talk about him the same way you'd talk about a youth player with potential. He's 29.

His lack of defensive contribution, in particular his lazy tracking/marking in corners, set pieces, and crosses is hardly covered--he was at fault for PSG's goal in his supposed super performance in that game.

If he scores 15 goals, that would be great, but he seems insistent on not learning how to pass, connect play, or track--things that are kinda important for a midfielder.
 
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is it possible that ismael bennacer could be considered the most talented and skilled midfielder to ever play for dinamo zagreb?
You mean the club Boban and Modric played for?
 
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Switzerland beat Kosovo, ranked 95th in the Fifa world rank list, 4:0, with two goals from Embolo. Retegui scored two only against Estonia, ranked 126th in the Fifa world rank list.

So... Embolo >>> Retegui

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From a member who has Allegri as Avatar & Ibra as a memes, you proved you're just piece of shit 😂
 

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Calfiori, Bastoni, Barella, DiMarco, Cambiaso, Tonali, Retegui, Kean, Donnarumma would walk into our team as starters with ease!
Kean yes
Calafiori would be the first to make it to the hospital
Bastoni yes
Barella yes
Cambiasso is rubbish
Tonali yes
Retegui pure system player. No
Donna yes

5 starters yes. Could have had all for cheap but Cocklani? Ibra? Mondonkey?
 

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After a triumphant Euro2020, things have been pretty bleak.

An early Euro2024 exit and failure to qualify for the World Cup yet again.

Lots to set right. I am hoping Gattuso is the guy.
Yeah me too, but I still don't understand Gabbia & Ricci exclusion, I mean they called up Mancini and Fratesi with a Locatelli who till now is nt that good, is it an agreement between Ac Milan and Italy to prevent any injury?
 
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