Week 10: Milan 1-1 Lazio SS 30/10/2013

[Ash]

What do you mean????!!!!

we had 42000, they on 38000!!!!

You might have noticed but we have a far bigger stadium.

Ok are facilities are crap and finding a descend toilet in the San Siro is impossible (trust me) but still its worth going to

So what if we have a bigger stadium?

Didnt have a problem filling it considerably when we were actually playing well. Point is they fill up most of their stadium whereas ours is more or less empty every game

If you havent noticed, but our season tickets numbers are also at a record low this season. So no, tv is not the reason there arent people in the stadium. The garbage on display is....

 

[Qaas]

I would post that 'they came for the communists/fascists" rubbish but I can't be bothered to find it.

I don't care if other people dislike him. A lot of our fans hated Boateng, Constant and Niang last season... yet they were clearly good for us.

I don't think he's incompetent. I don't think he uses 'pussy tactics'. We need stability because our defence is weak, therefore we play with defensive players.

I can agree with that. How much of that is due to him, however, is another discussion altogether.

So u are telling that we have worse defenders than fucking verona, torino, bologna, all the mid-table teams in serie a?. Bullshit!

We need a change everybody can see it, just because u and three other people from this forum see him as a good coach doesn't mean he is one.
12 points out of possible 30 is just fucking ridiculous.

compare for example chelsea under de mateo/benitez and now under mourinho. They have almost the same team, but this team under mourinho are so motivated and give all their best every game, that what u call motivating ur players and that is because of the coach (mourinho). allgeri and his dai dai won't help.

 

[Ash]

Oh my fucking holy Jesus.

MATRI WAS VERY GOOD LAST GAME. Therefore, he deserved to be subbed on when we were chasing a goal...

How don't you fucking see this? What if Matri scored twice against Parma?

Robinho has been superior, yes, but Matri was the better choice, based on his superior RECENT form and because he's a striker, not a provider.

Robinho's stats are irrelevant. You don't put Robinho on instead of Matri because "hurr durr he has better stats, on average he may score more" You judge their recent form, Parma, in which Matri was superior.

That logic was completely fine. It's your fucking FM logic which is going completely past the minds of every single person who follows football that's flawed.

Matri was very good in the last game. Therefore, he deserved to be put on first.




We beat Arsenal. Arsenal lost to Bradford. Bradford lost to Oxford. I played for Under-10s Oxford side, therefore, I'm better than Nesta, Seedorf and Ibra.

Right?



Nope.

Oops I forgot

Your usual drivel is about blaming it on the referees

My bad

 

[Kvothe]

Why do you do this? Kuja is going to write another 5000 word post on how it's dumb to hate Allegri.

 

[Curupira]

Before we scored = what we are capable of (and not even maximum capability)

After we scored = what we have been doing all season

 

[Dominate]

still missing that transition from midfield to attack, to often it just relied on the long ball to Mario who only got like 1/5 of them

front 3 seemed pretty isolated

 

[ACMilanMaldini3]

Not when the team plays like this and this fucked up management does nothing about it.

Today it was 42000. Though I agree with that the next home game will probably be 30000

 

[Jasper]

 

[Pharaoh]

Oh my fucking holy Jesus.

MATRI WAS VERY GOOD LAST GAME. Therefore, he deserved to be subbed on when we were chasing a goal...

How don't you fucking see this? What if Matri scored twice against Parma?

Robinho has been superior, yes, but Matri was the better choice, based on his superior RECENT form and because he's a striker, not a provider.

Robinho's stats are irrelevant. You don't put Robinho on instead of Matri because "hurr durr he has better stats, on average he may score more" You judge their recent form, Parma, in which Matri was superior.

That logic was completely fine. It's your fucking FM logic which is going completely past the minds of every single person who follows football that's flawed.

Matri was very good in the last game. Therefore, he deserved to be put on first.




We beat Arsenal. Arsenal lost to Bradford. Bradford lost to Oxford. I played for Under-10s Oxford side, therefore, I'm better than Nesta, Seedorf and Ibra.

Right?



Nope.

Lol because of matris recent form,aka a good game in a blue moon he deserves more game time than someone whos proven,consistently this season that he shouldnt sit on the bench or atleast more so than matri.

Cmone kuja,dont you think youre going overboard with defending allegri this time?

Stats in the previous 8-10 games are irrelevant when it comes to whos subbed in first?

Cmone bro,atleast admit one time allegri fucked up

 

[ACMilanMaldini3]

So what if we have a bigger stadium?

Didnt have a problem filling it considerably when we were actually playing well. Point is they fill up most of their stadium whereas ours is more or less empty every game

If you havent noticed, but our season tickets numbers are also at a record low this season. So no, tv is not the reason there arent people in the stadium. The garbage on display is....

Not for the Champions League, their at a 7 year high (78000 vs Barca)

 

[Ash]

Not for the Champions League, their at a 7 year high (78000 vs Barca)

You do realize season tickets are different than CL attendance?

And of course they would be high for CL, we were playing bloody Barcelona

 

[Nestafan]

Here I will do one for you.

First half, we passed the ball around. Controlled possession. The ball would go like around and then back to Zaccardo and Zapata then pass around again. Our strategy of passing to Balo and hoping he does something amazing almost worked. Then he was marked. Kaka had a couple of half chances off his dribbles. Oh right, signing of the year Birsa showed us his great dead ball skills.

Second half, we scored. Then, if you seen other games this season, just imagine that. No motivation, shitty passing, terrible play. We conceded. More shit play. Allegri throws on his favorite forward Matri. And he does absolutely nothing. Our last chance, Robinho blasts the ball into the stands.

Matri actually set up a decent chance for Zapata.

 

[carletto]

com on guys lets just hop in the future. nothing is finnished yet. someday the clouds of allegri will be gone and the sky in milan will b sunny. that they i will not be mourning even for my dearest souls...

 

[Dawn]

Today it was 42000. Though I agree with that the next home game will probably be 30000

Where did you get this number? was it from ESPN? They always have random attendance numbers irrc. It should be around 3xxxx considering how empty the stadium was

 

[KujaIX]

So u are telling that we have worse defenders than fucking verona, torino, bologna, all the mid-table teams in serie a?. Bullshit!

We need a change everybody can see it, just because u and three other people from this forum see him as a good coach doesn't mean he is one.
12 points out of possible 30 is just fucking ridiculous.

compare for example chelsea under de mateo/benitez and now under mourinho. They have almost the same team, but this team under mourinho are so motivated and give all their best every game, that what u call motivating ur players and that is because of the coach (mourinho). allgeri and his dai dai won't help.

No, just that, as a big team, we're supposed to attack more - we do attack, and get caught on the counter. Allegri attempts to counter this by playing more slowly and with more defensively-capable players.

In your opinion.

Mourinho is one of the best in the world at creating a 'them vs us' mentality and motivating players.

Oops I forgot

Your usual drivel is about blaming it on the referees

My bad

I blame it on the referees when it's the referee's fault.

I didn't blame it on the ref today or in many other games this season... I found a few decisions stupid and incorrect, but I didn't blame it on the ref today.

 

[Curupira]

Matri actually set up a decent chance for Zapata.

I know you like Matri and all but 1 goal and 1 "almost-assist" doesn't justify his price tag nor his salaries.

 

[KujaIX]

Lol because of matris recent form,aka a good game in a blue moon he deserves more game time than someone whos proven,consistently this season that he shouldnt sit on the bench or atleast more so than matri.

Cmone kuja,dont you think youre going overboard with defending allegri this time?

Stats in the previous 8-10 games are irrelevant when it comes to whos subbed in first?

Cmone bro,atleast admit one time allegri fucked up

Matri played very well last game, which was 3 days ago. It makes complete sense that he get subbed on over someone who hasn't done very well for a while.

Not completely irrelevant, but definitely so if someone else has performed better more recently.

 

[Ash]

We had like two decent shots on target, one of which was a wonder goal

Hardly call that 'domination'

Plus, we were playing a half strength Lazio. If we were in their place, we would have gotten hammered

 

[Nestafan]

I know you like Matri and all but 1 goal and 1 "almost-assist" doesn't justify his price tag nor his salaries.

I also like you Curupira, you're actually one of my favourite posters on here usually.
But i think you're going overboard saying he was useless tonight.

I never agreed with the transfer fee for him, but i like Matri the player, and while he's at Milan i will support him.

 

[Ash]

I also like you Curupira, you're actually one of my favourite posters on here usually.
But i think you're going overboard saying he was useless tonight.

I never agreed with the transfer fee for him, but i like Matri the player, and while he's at Milan i will support him.

umm...he was useless tonight

Has been useless almost every game other than the last one (which he somewhat fucked up with that fail wall)

 

[Qaas]

I also like you Curupira, you're actually one of my favourite posters on here usually.
But i think you're going overboard saying he was useless tonight.

I never agreed with the transfer fee for him, but i like Matri the player, and while he's at Milan i will support him.

come on he was useless.

 

[Curupira]

I also like you Curupira, you're actually one of my favourite posters on here usually.
But i think you're going overboard saying he was useless tonight.

I never agreed with the transfer fee for him, but i like Matri the player, and while he's at Milan i will support him.

Maybe.

But did you see how easily he was pushed off the ball. He was brought in to be a CF, to grind out goals, to hold up play. Other than that hail mary header to Zapata, he really didn't do anything.

 

[Nestafan]

Maybe.

But did you see how easily he was pushed off the ball. He was brought in to be a CF, to grind out goals, to hold up play. Other than that hail mary header to Zapata, he really didn't do anything.

I'm not saying he was amazing, but for the 15 minutes he was on the pitch, he wasn't as bad a some are making out.

I was hoping to see a few good balls into the box for him, but it never happened.

 

[Nestafan]

Both Zaccardo and Zapata were solid tonight.

 

[Curupira]

Both Zaccardo and Zapata were solid tonight.

Now that I agree with. Zaccardo is solid. Funny people were all worried about Zaccardo. IMO, we should worry more about us in the attacking final third rather than Zaccardo.

 

[Italian Tsar]

All teams are 'hard to beat' in Serie A. Well, to a relative degree. That's why they're in Serie A. But there are only a handful with a squad better than ours. Lazio is not one of them. Nor is Bologna. Or Parma. Or Torino. Or Hellas.

How long are you gonna tell us "we were unlucky" or "we must've beaten them" or "we played well" despite shitty results? (And they are shitty.) If you can't get results despite the team playing well, you know what that means? It means you're not good enough. You can't get results from them. So why don't you fuck right off?

I'll respect someone who says "yeah. We screwed up. I am sorry. We'll do better next time". But not someone who doesn't have the balls to stand up for himself. Lazio, to be fair, defended well and broke very effectively today. They ganged up on the mouth of the penalty box and only rarely let us near the goal. The ref wasn't great, especially in the first half, and he should've given us a couple of free-kicks right outside the box.

But still, we should have won. This is exactly the kind of game big teams must be accustomed to. Breaking down smaller teams that park the bus comes with the territory of being a big club. But Allegri won't hear of it. No sir. We played well. The ref fucked us. The free-kick was 278 metres too near. Half my first team is out injured.

Fix it, asshole! That's what you get paid for! Fucking idiot.

 

[yagami7gnr]

Oh my fucking holy Jesus.

MATRI WAS VERY GOOD LAST GAME. Therefore, he deserved to be subbed on when we were chasing a goal...

How don't you fucking see this? What if Matri scored twice against Parma?

Robinho has been superior, yes, but Matri was the better choice, based on his superior RECENT form and because he's a striker, not a provider.

Robinho's stats are irrelevant. You don't put Robinho on instead of Matri because "hurr durr he has better stats, on average he may score more" You judge their recent form, Parma, in which Matri was superior.

That logic was completely fine. It's your fucking FM logic which is going completely past the minds of every single person who follows football that's flawed.

Matri was very good in the last game. Therefore, he deserved to be put on first.




We beat Arsenal. Arsenal lost to Bradford. Bradford lost to Oxford. I played for Under-10s Oxford side, therefore, I'm better than Nesta, Seedorf and Ibra.

Right?



Nope.

Kuja, please the sooner you let it go, it will be better for you.

1) So if we follow the logic, that Matri deserved to enter for his good game against Parma; then it was also logical that he did not emphatically deserved to be given any minutes after his shitty previous performances.

2) It was clear that Matri would have been a nuisance in the las minutes because our game is simply slow and before and after Matri entered into the game there were almost 0 frickin crosses into Lazio's area for Matri to capitalize; therefore, matri's effectiveness as CF/poacher was completely negated. I do not even want to recall matri getting the ball in midfield, holding the ball, moving toward the left flank, trying to pass two defenders to ultimately lose the ball.

 

[Albertini]

damn.... tsar's pissed

 

[albmovi]

The only good thing is that last year we had 11 points in first 10 weeks and now we have 12.

 

[Jivara]

By this stage I am getting evil thoughts like Berlusconi having a heart attack and his son selling the club

Lord forgive me but please do something about this tragedy