Pele says Zinedine Zidane was a better player than Lionel Messi when he was at his peak but revealed he would vote for the Barcelona star ahead of Cristiano Ronaldo to win the Ballon d'Or.
Zidane lifted the World Cup and European Championship with France during his playing days as well as the Champions League and then the Ballon d'Or with Real Madrid.
Messi has been widely-heralded as arguably the greatest player of all-time having won the Ballon d'Or a record four times, but Brazil legend Pele does not share that same point of view.
He told reporters: "Individually, I think Zidane was better than Messi. Zidane was amazing and the team-mates he played with were not the same standard as Messi’s; he plays with Xavi and Iniesta at Barcelona."
Kids these days
Have you guys actually SEEN Zidane?
And you honostly say that Zidane is in the same class as Messi and Maradona? With a straight face? Or as straight as you can make that mug of yours?
Hell yes he's in the same class as them, what kind of a question is this? I won't go in a debate about who's better than who... but he's definitely in the same category of players.
Few people in the history of football have been able to have Zidane's impact on a game when he's at his best.
I agree that zz's influence in WC98 was exaggerated
But, you know, history is written by the winners
In 98 R9 was the best IMHO but he undid everything by the shit final performance which zz was a monster for
Similarly R9 was merely a great goal scorer for '02. Rivaldo was better but Ron scored in the finals and got to the record.
The same for '06 where zz was CLEARLY the best but Canna got it.
I think zz and R9 took turns at who was going to be the best in the world
AOverrated with RM, or maybe not his fault, but he was put in a team with so little balance it exposed him so much, well his first season with Madrid was great too to be fair (surprise surprise, Madrid had a balanced team then), obviously though he looked flashier in La Liga than in Serie A.
He was aging. After his first madrid year, he wasn't very consistent due to age and team lacking any balance.
But yah, i mean it's not really surprising an AM feels age when his legs slow down
remember this goal?
You're a revisionist and a Swede, not sure whats worse...
That was a thing of beauty. Whole play is great, and the finishing is iconic. Like you said, "football is like medieval fairy tales about great deeds and great characters", its a lot down to timming of doing iconic things, and Zidane had a great timming at it. Doesn't mean he wasn't great overall, but his most memorable/iconic moments came when all cameras of the world were on him, which makes his legend status bigger than others that might've been on his same level at the time.
Actually his performance in the wc 98 WAS already exaggerated by 1998 itself. He was suspended for 2 and a half games, first game they played vs an average South Africa, he did shit vs Italy and was meh vs Croatia.
I also believe his 06 performance was pretty overrated, the ones that saved his ass were Vieira and Thuram who put on a performance in the last group stage game where he was suspended, and which qualified France to the next round. He was so so vs Spain, but the goal was cool, specially cause Spanish media made comments about retiring him. He was out of this world vs Brazil (which is what everyone remembers), and average in the remaining two games, ffs, he got himself send off for something so dumb in the final (even if we all would have wanted to head butt Materazzi, there's a moment and a place, a hard intense WC Final is not the moment), he ended up fucking his team over.
But Zidane was amazing in the Euro 2000, one of the best performances I've seen from a player. And was amazing with Juventus. Overrated with RM, or maybe not his fault, but he was put in a team with so little balance it exposed him so much, well his first season with Madrid was great too to be fair (surprise surprise, Madrid had a balanced team then), obviously though he looked flashier in La Liga than in Serie A.
I dunno. I go back and forth on this. Around 2006 I was convinced he deserved his place in the top 5 ever, looking back, I'm not all that sure anymore. I do think he was better than Rui, but regardless of anything, he is one of the greatest ever, maybe not top 5, but that ends up being pretty subjective.
yeah, zidane flew right under the radar during his career. look who's talking about being a revisionist.
Messi and Ronaldo, although FANTASTIC players, "fool" many people in thinking they're the greatest ever by the number of goals they score. Goals aren't everything. Where does players like Maldini and Nesta fit into this for example?