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How do you think Ibrahimović's 2011-2012 season at Milan will go?


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He's nothing like Kobe .. :fp::fp:
Maybe like Lebron .. no rings to show yet for all the numbers and league wins .. Bring a Champions League to San Siro plz ..

he's everything like kobe.

selfish.

takes the glory despite having teams around him doing allll the dirty work
 

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he's everything like kobe.

selfish.

takes the glory despite having teams around him doing allll the dirty work

Why you making stuff up?
Be greatful, he's a leader and every player compliments him and talks about his hunger. This has clearly rubbed off on others, even the veterans who before his signing looked like they were happy not winning any more.

When he's complimented, he usually talks about the team and it being about the combined effort. Whats so bad about others doing the dirty work? Players like Nocerino and Muntari sacrifice themselves and do the dirty work but they are part of a winning system that they take credit for as well and this strategy utilizes a talent that is unmatched in this league. NO? So stop moaning. Zlatan cannot do the dirty work on top of everything else because then it'd really be just TS and Zlatan on the pitch.
 

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Why you making stuff up?
Be greatful, he's a leader and every player compliments him and talks about his hunger. This has clearly rubbed off on others, even the veterans who before his signing looked like they were happy not winning any more.

When he's complimented, he usually talks about the team and it being about the combined effort. Whats so bad about others doing the dirty work? Players like Nocerino and Muntari sacrifice themselves and do the dirty work but they are part of a winning system that they take credit for as well and this strategy utilizes a talent that is unmatched in this league. NO? So stop moaning. Zlatan cannot do the dirty work on top of everything else because then it'd really be just TS and Zlatan on the pitch.

Where was that a criticism?

zlatan is a match winner, a great player.

But put him on palermo, they still aren't in ucl.

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it's a team game. no need to act like he's turning water into wine.


I got no problem with what zlatan does (well aside from when he gets lazy), i just think it takes a full team. And it's ridiculous to claim him as 1 of 4 best signings in berlusconi era... YET
 
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Where was that a criticism?

zlatan is a match winner, a great player.

But put him on palermo, they still aren't in ucl.

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it's a team game. no need to act like he's turning water into wine.


I got no problem with what zlatan does (well aside from when he gets lazy), i just think it takes a full team.

Who said that about Palermo..and who said it doesnt take a team?:D
Personally I think Palermo could maybe get UCL spot if Ibra is there though. Miccoli is as good as Robinho over a season, their midfield cant be as bad as ours :D and they do have a decent defender in Silvestre.

and no he doesnt change water into wine. He changes losing teams into league winning teams.
 

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If you're dating a girl you tell her she's the prettiest blah blah blah while you're with her to keep her happy.

The past is all glorious but you have to look out for your present specially when Zlatan has been carrying the team all season because of the freak situations regarding all our other forwards.
 

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The Ibra haters are a special breed.
They will still question him when he has 11 straight league wins and a couple of CL's.
 

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and no he doesnt change water into wine. He changes losing teams into league winning teams.

Milan was 3rd... not a losing team.

Inter was 3rd/4th... and they had edge o calciopoli cripping the two heavyweights.


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Maybe he's just an insanely got striker who gave both teams that clinical/match winner they lacked.

You could imagine if we replaced Boriello or Pato in those 07-11 teams wirth someone as consistent as Zlatan we'd have won some league titles then too.... way too many 0-0s or 1-1s or 0-1s where a top class striker (like Sheva was) would have decided the match.
 

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The Ibra haters are a special breed.
They will still question him when he has 11 straight league wins and a couple of CL's.

I dont know about that.

I personally have no hate for Ibra. I know he is one of the best in the world. Just behind messi and maybe ronaldo. But when people argue about ibra, the one thing they continue to go back to is that he never won the CL.

Once he wins it, his haters can all fuck off.
 

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nah... purposely screwed up the word as a rebuttal to the screwed up statement of proclaiming a guy who hasn't completed 2 seasons one of 4 greatest signings of last 25 years. (same way people use expressions like brain smartly etc. here)


You know cause milan didn't win 5 ucl's (none which he was involed in) and 8 league titles over that era too, and certainly didn't have countless other legends who will be remembers fair longer than zlatan. You know like the original DMs (Rijkaard, Desailley), the original #10 (boban), the last great italian defender (nesta), the only CURRENT great CB (Thiago)... and the list goes on...

fuck could make same point for kaka


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this is the reason i dislike zlatan on personal level. Galliani doesn't say this crap, raiola's out demanding wages or a transfer by midnight...
And why will you blame Ibra if G is a fucking pussy ?
Its G's fault all the way.
And its not like this is the first time a player took the baldy for a ransom.
I mean Digao ? :o
Seedorf's armless brother ? :o

Really guys , stop it with the Ibra hate already.
The guy is a dickhead enough providing many reasons/incidents to hate on him so no need to blame him on other's stupidity.
Buhuuuuuuuuuuuu Ibra didnt carry the entire team on his own vs Arsneal so buhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu & lets not mention G&B for adopting a loser mentality.

And I love TS but how come we didnt click before Ibra joined ?
The guy is immense , period.
TS could be the best CD in the world & i love the guy but Ibra is a bigger reason why we are topping the league.
That said , I can easily name 10 players ahead of him in the last 10 years.
 
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And why will you blame Ibra if G is a fucking pussy ?
Its G's fault all the way.
And its not like this is the first time a player took the baldy for a ransom.
I mean Digao ? :o
Seedorf's armless brother ? :o

Really guys , stop it with the Ibra hate already.
The guy is a dickhead enough providing many reasons/incidents to hate on him so no need to blame him on other's stupidity.
Buhuuuuuuuuuuuu Ibra didnt carry the entire team on his own vs Arsneal so buhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu & lets not mention G&B for adopting a loser mentality.

ok fair point.... i didnt really mean to stem it all at zlatan


lol, how could i forget CHEDRIC SEEDORF!
 

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Milan was 3rd... not a losing team.
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3rd place not a losing place? In which world?

Inter was 3rd/4th... and they had edge o calciopoli cripping the two heavyweights.
3rd, 4th. Amongst the best of the losers.

You're not a winner unless you actually win.
 

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You might as well stop posting if you fail to see the difference between 3rd/4th and finishing 1st every year. He makes you the league winners, isnt that enough for some credit?
For Milan 3rd is not an acheivement, and we were some years worse than that, not qualify for UCL!
 

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For fuck sake stop hating on Ibra.
Its no coincidence that where ever he went the team is built around him.
Talk about Juve , Inter , Barca & now Milan & everywhere the team went to play his style so obviously he is kinda special , dont you all think ?
The guy went to fucking Barca , the most talented team in the world , and he was the same dickhead so this is him & he isnt pretending.
What you see is what you get & Milan got him knowing what he is.
He is a dickhead but wasnt Sheva & Kaka ?
Ibra's attitude over Kaka's any day of the week.
If G wanted to suck his dick will people blame Ibra for getting naked ?

Buhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu he doesnt win the CL :o
We have one player to win the league so really what the other 10 players are doing ?
Lets bring one or two to win the CL , shall we ?
Bright idea , yeah ?

Shut the fuck up about Ibra & be grateful to have him.
 
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For fuck sake stop hating on Ibra.
Its no coincidence that where ever he went the team is built around him.
Talk about Juve , Inter , Barca & now Milan & everywhere the team went to play his style so obviously he is kinda special , dont you all think ?
The guy went to fucking Barca , the most talented team in the world , and he was the same dickhead so this is him & he isnt pretending.
What you see is what you get & Milan got him knowing what he is.


Buhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu he doesnt win the CL :o
We have one player to win the league so really what the other 10 players are doing ?
Lets bring one or two to win the CL , shall we ?
Bright idea , yeah ?

Shut the fuck up about Ibra & be grateful to have him.

Agreed 100%

Bar these parts
He is a dickhead but wasnt Sheva & Kaka ?
Ibra's attitude over Kaka's any day of the week.

Simply NO.

If G wanted to suck his dick will people blame Ibra for getting naked ?

Frankly I would...
 

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getting upset over galliani's statements? do ppl even know who galliani is?
galliani calls our current star striker one of his best all-time signings....SHOCKING!!! I AM SHOCKED!!!!!!!! THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

:lol:
 

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Milan was 3rd... not a losing team.

Inter was 3rd/4th... and they had edge o calciopoli cripping the two heavyweights.


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Maybe he's just an insanely got striker who gave both teams that clinical/match winner they lacked.

You could imagine if we replaced Boriello or Pato in those 07-11 teams wirth someone as consistent as Zlatan we'd have won some league titles then too.... way too many 0-0s or 1-1s or 0-1s where a top class striker (like Sheva was) would have decided the match.

So lets say Huntelaar, in his current awesome form, was with us now. He is as consistent as it gets, and scoring goals every week. Imagine he'd never left and Ibra never came. Would we be where we are now? Hell no.

Ibra simply gave and still gives us quality and a winner mentality, you should just appreciate what he did, because I believe he was the ONLY player who could solely turn our team around like that.
 

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getting upset over galliani's statements? do ppl even know who galliani is?
galliani calls our current star striker one of his best all-time signings....SHOCKING!!! I AM SHOCKED!!!!!!!! THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

:lol:

Meh dude, you have to look at the bigger picture..
I love Ibra, but tbh he's only here for 2 years.
To favourite him over signings like Nesta, Rui Costa, Dorf&Pirlo on a bosman(IIRC) etc. seems kind of disrespecting to me too.
 

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For fuck sake stop hating on Ibra.
Its no coincidence that where ever he went the team is built around him.
Talk about Juve , Inter , Barca & now Milan & everywhere the team went to play his style so obviously he is kinda special , dont you all think ?
The guy went to fucking Barca , the most talented team in the world , and he was the same dickhead so this is him & he isnt pretending.
What you see is what you get & Milan got him knowing what he is.
He is a dickhead but wasnt Sheva & Kaka ?
Ibra's attitude over Kaka's any day of the week.
If G wanted to suck his dick will people blame Ibra for getting naked ?

Buhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu he doesnt win the CL :o
We have one player to win the league so really what the other 10 players are doing ?
Lets bring one or two to win the CL , shall we ?
Bright idea , yeah ?

Shut the fuck up about Ibra & be grateful to have him.

Hats off my man! Ibra wouldn't be Ibra if he wasn't a prick! His arrogance is what makes him the best striker in the world ATM. He's roots are from Balkan after all :D
 

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Simply NO.
Milan signing Digao is as low as it gets.
Him getting a new contract each + every year was a disgrace.
Selling him was the redemption if you ask me.
Again , Ibra's antics over Kaka's any day of the week.
@ least the ass licking keep him happy while in Kaka's case it didnt even work.
 

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Milan signing Digao is as low as it gets.
Him getting a new contract each + every year was a disgrace.
Selling him was the redemption if you ask me.
Again , Ibra's antics over Kaka's any day of the week.
@ least the ass licking keep him happy while in Kaka's case it didnt even work.

Hmm, I get the idea that B&G did what they did for Kaka out of respect for the player he was with us. I simply can't imagine Kaka going into G's office asking for a new contract + raise every year, or him asking G to sign Digao.

With Ibra I get the idea that they're acting more out of fear of losing him or him becoming unhappy. They know what happens when he gets unhappy.
 

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So lets say Huntelaar, in his current awesome form, was with us now. He is as consistent as it gets, and scoring goals every week. Imagine he'd never left and Ibra never came. Would we be where we are now? Hell no.

Ibra simply gave and still gives us quality and a winner mentality, you should just appreciate what he did, because I believe he was the ONLY player who could solely turn our team around like that.

I don't think he's only, but he's one of the few.

He's a genuine complete forward, and a decisive match winning one.

My point was from sheva's exit (who also could be described in same capacity) we lacked this aspect in our team.


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I don't like the mentality argument because that's insulting to gattuso, nesta, seedorfs, pirlo, and i don't know... 7 of the 11 starters on last years team who had previously won scudettos or ucls or world cups.

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He brought a level of consistency uptop we'd sorely been lacking for years with fodder forward lines led by pato.


I give him credit where due, and he deserves his....but 2010-11 milan is not inter. This wasn't a team of children or relegation jokers who had never played a big match in there life.

And the way milan management bends over to Zlatan, insults me as a fan. Like Milan was nothing before zlatan.

It's not... and it won't be post-zlatan. Milan's a big club. a presitgious club, with legends better than him, and legends will be born after him.

I appreciate everything he's doing now.... i dislike putting him in the same sentence as van basten or sheva (he can sit w/ kaka as far as i'm concerneD), let alone not mentioning boban or desailley or rijkaard or gullit for ex. It makes it seem like Zlatan is the first world class player Milan have ever seen...


Milan signing Digao is as low as it gets.
Him getting a new contract each + every year was a disgrace.
Selling him was the redemption if you ask me.
Again , Ibra's antics over Kaka's any day of the week.
@ least the ass licking keep him happy while in Kaka's case it didnt even work.

this sort of stuff was disgraceful behavior too. No denials there...

and it bugged me THEN too....

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And yes, I'm willing to say Zlatan at milan has been better than KAka, bar a few REAL highlights from KAka. I just hate that quote galliani made in every sense of the world though.
 
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Put Ibra in current inter and they WILL win the league and we will drop to third spot if the league was to be played from start again. People hating on ibra because he is put together with kaka, mvb and sheva should rethink. All the three mentioned had GREAT players around them (I MEAN RAELLY REALLY REALLY GREAT PLAYERS!!!!) , ofc they would shine even brighter than ever. The only really good companion zlatan has in this current team, is no one other than Thiago Silva. Seeing from that perspective, zlatan is doing a immense job. Basically the attack is 80% him and defence is 80% thiago silva, they are almost like 2 man team right now.

Ofc people like to mention his year in barca, why he wasn't that successful during that period even tho he had quality players around him. Well let's see, the guy changed league, changed from a 1 man army team to a team with one of the most complex gamesystem that requires very high stamina because the forwards are on constant move in barca. In short, he had a lot things that was new to him and he needed time to adjust. But still he didn't fail that much in his first and only year there. 21 goals 13 assists in 45 games (take henry as example, during his prime moving from arsenal had 19 goals, 11 assists in 47 games in his first year).

If we honestly got zlatan in 2006, I really think he would have gotten a few CL by now. Kaka, Ibra...god they would have been so damn good
 
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Hmm, I get the idea that B&G did what they did for Kaka out of respect for the player he was with us. I simply can't imagine Kaka going into G's office asking for a new contract + raise every year, or him asking G to sign Digao.

With Ibra I get the idea that they're acting more out of fear of losing him or him becoming unhappy. They know what happens when he gets unhappy.
But the guy IS happy.
Its obvious while watching him.
Sucking on current player's dick while making players from the past unhappy is much smarter than the opposite :D
 

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But the guy IS happy.
Its obvious while watching him.
Sucking on current player's dick while making players from the past unhappy is much smarter than the opposite :D

Hahaha true.
I don't disapprove with G's ways of handling this at all.
If Ibra needs G sucking his dick, by all means do it G, because if Ibra leaves, we have a big big problem.

I was commenting on your reaction about favouring Ibra's behaviour over Kaka's behaviour. I can't say I agree with that though. Because I don't think Kaka would've minded if G didn't go out every week and suck his dick. If G doesn't to that with Ibra though, there's going to be some problems in Milanello :lol:.
 

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To be honest, I don't know how anyone can hate Ibra. At least the man's got an identity and a personality, and isn't a push-over. Sure he is arrogant, but he has the silverware bar CL so far to back it up. People say Messi is the greatest forward at the moment, and when I say Ibrahimovic is some think I'm crazy. All bias aside, the fact of the matter is that Ibra has won the league cup for every big team he has played for. EVERY TEAM, Messi has only won trophies with one club his whole life. I'm the one who believes if Messi was on a different squad, he wouldn't be the same at all. Look at the midfield, defense, the team in general Messi plays in front of. He has everything- service, defense, box to box players, wingers, it's crazy. Imagine Ibra with that kind of service (he had it at Barca but Messi was always favored for his position and still is), he is able to score almost 30 goals with the makeshift midfield we have mustered up + all of these injuries! Incredible player, and I wouldn't doubt the best signing for Milan in recent years. Inzaghi, Nesta, and Shevchenko will always be at the top of my list but Ibra is up there too.

All of the animosity shown towards Ibrahimovic will be significantly less once he wins CL, we all know that. I'm sure Ibrahimovic and the other players have had discussion with management on players they want brought in to the club, especially if Ibrahimovic has the capability to discuss a formation for a CL match with the coach. Bring a ball winning and assist machine of a left mid, a true Vice st, and an appropriate fullback, Milan will be in the semis every year in CL.
 

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And yes, I'm willing to say Zlatan at milan has been better than KAka, bar a few REAL highlights from KAka. I just hate that quote galliani made in every sense of the world though.
People are just assuming Ibra will do this & that simply cause he is usually like that.
But lets wait for him this time to actually be that with Milan before hating on him.
How many time he was fouled in his last game ?
Did you see him making a fuss ?
This is a sign that him , the team & the players are clam.
They seems happy & with a plan.
Topping the league with a chance in CL & the cup, whats wrong with that ?
What G said is for him to explain.
He is the president & if he wanna hold a player's dick then we cant blame the player.
The guy is romantic , I believe he actually feel that Ibra , who represent the present , is a kick ass singing.
As a guy in here said , even if you had much better looking girlfriends be sure you wont say that to your current hence disrupting your present & your future just to be honest.
 

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I pray to heaven that we win CL this year, it would be just sooooo damn good. A true proof of the rebirth of the rossoneri, once again a powerhouse of Europe
 
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