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Monty is no fucken anchor.

"We've played better withput De Jong." :fp:

I am definitely not for a selling of De Jong, he was unarguably the best player of the season. This might sound like a minor achievement since basically the whole team was utterly shite, but NDJ was good for real. A fucekn monster.Selling him would be wrong, very wrong. WHo should play as DM instead? Muntari? Ugh...I am disgusted.

Again, good player, bad fit. He slows down the team, offers very little from a passing perspective, is poor defensively, and generally fails to advance the team either up the pitch or securing it in defense. He also lacks fluidity, and frankly, it's no surprise why the team plays better with Montolivo in that role.

Again, best case scenario is Arsenal showing legitimate interest and us being able to take back Arteta in a swap deal. While he is in decline at 32, a 2 year deal more than bridges the gap to Cristante/Fossatti as first team regulars, and he would be our best midfielder right now. It's debatable who is better between he and Montolivo, but that's still an excellent debate considering our death of midfield options.
 

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Tielemans or praet? Who's better?

Both are taurus though which is the sign of the maestro.. Pirlo, Beckham, Iniesta, Kaka, Fabregas, Yaya, Isco, Bergkamp, Mata..

Tielemans without a doubt, Praet has stagnated over the last year and only started to improve at the end of the season when he was moved to the left and changed from a #10 into a hardworking and tackling left midfielder. Even so he has rarely impressed and to me he seems quite overhyped.
Tielemans on the other hand is a true gem and bar any injury related setbacks will be world class in a few years. He wants to finish school in Belgium before moving though so this would mean he will stay for another 2 years
 

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Its really not hard to understand why some think it makes sense to sell NDJ. I think he was the best player last year, but should still be sold. This is a rebuilding team, NDJ is getting old, is at peak value, and can not play in the same midfield as Monto. Both have different games but need to play in the center. Monto sucked all last year playing on the right.

Casemiro makes sense because he could fill in part time for Monto as the anchor. Hes not the same type of player but is an ndj like destroyer who could hold us over until monto returns, hes still young and could develop as well.
 

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Its really not hard to understand why some think it makes sense to sell NDJ. I think he was the best player last year, but should still be sold. This is a rebuilding team, NDJ is getting old, is at peak value, and can not play in the same midfield as Monto. Both have different games but need to play in the center. Monto sucked all last year playing on the right.

I agree for the most part about selling NDJ, not because he's a bad player, but because he has value, and this is the last time we'd see any cash for him... We've been SHIT at recouping any monies from transfers regularly, or for market value. Yes Kaka was good business, Ibra and Silva not, and Prince, thats exactly the same and NDJ, we got a decent offer, he was gone. We're now trying to offload Essien, Binho, Birsa, Constant, Matri and Mexes, who have all cost us a money, either in fee's or over the top wages.

Now I'd rather see Essien, Muntari and Noc sold for the same cash we'd get for NDJ, but I'm not sure if that will happen... In an ideal World we'd get 20/25 million for NDJ, Essien, Muntari, Traore and Noc, not to mention the wages saved, then invest that money in 2/3 good players, and promote some youth, giving us 4/5 good midfielders including Monty and Poli, for 3 starting spots, plus we'd have a couple young players to play cup games and cover injuries if need be. Hell use those 5 players to trade with cash to try get 2/3 players, they all have value to someone!!!

I'd hate to see us sell NDJ then keep Essien, Muntari, Traore and Noc :fp:
 

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Its really not hard to understandwhy some think it makes sense to sell NDJ. I think he was the best player last year, but should still be sold. This is a rebuilding team, NDJ is getting old, is at peak value, and can not play in the same midfield as Monto. Both have different games but need to play in the center. Monto sucked all last year playing on the right.

Casemiro makes sense because he could fill in part time for Monto as the anchor. Hes not the same type of player but is an ndj like destroyer who could hold us over until monto returns, hes still young and could develop as well.

I will tell you what's wrong with that idea...Because there will be no replacement for him on his level, not even close with money we are willing to spend.
Casemiro? Not even near De Jong in terms of quality, not good enough/ready to be starting anchor even in a period of Montos absence.
Generaly I think that we don't need more one dimensional midfielders, we need complete footbalers in midfield who know to pass, create and defend.
Muntari, Noce, Essien all should go before NDJ.
 
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I'm getting the impression Casemiro is this weeks media/commode hyped guy... Not knocking the guy, as to be honest I don't know enough about him, but I get the impression people are just saying things for the sake of it rather than from a factually based point of view...

There's got to be a new generation of Lamela's, Hamsik's, Eriksen's, Jovetic's, Hernanes's, Asamoah's, etc etc, good young players to be had for decent prices? Is Casemiro one of these, I don't know, has anyone got a proper, good idea on his skill level?
 
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Casemiro is 22 and hes not better than Cristante hes not ready yet, not for an important role

Hed be a good signing for mid depth or for the future, but unles NDJ leaves no need for him. If hes cheap tho, I would not mind him along with Baselli or Cigarini Type of mid

Khedira is rumored to be Transfer listed, and :g: is in for Casemiro.. Khedira would easily raise the level of our mid, hed be able to replace Monto as well as team up with him once Capitanos back
 

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Casemiro, don't know how to describe him... Real bought him as a prospect and it's known what happens with prospects in Real, his story could be like Drenthe's.
Don't know, in Real he never seemed to me like something special, not even close...It's to much risky to take him and rely on him and expect him to grow in wc player. To bring him as a third choice on small wages, don't know, that's how we got so much useless players.
 

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Again, good player, bad fit. He slows down the team, offers very little from a passing perspective, is poor defensively, and generally fails to advance the team either up the pitch or securing it in defense. He also lacks fluidity, and frankly, it's no surprise why the team plays better with Montolivo in that role.

Again, best case scenario is Arsenal showing legitimate interest and us being able to take back Arteta in a swap deal. While he is in decline at 32, a 2 year deal more than bridges the gap to Cristante/Fossatti as first team regulars, and he would be our best midfielder right now. It's debatable who is better between he and Montolivo, but that's still an excellent debate considering our death of midfield options.

I like arteta but tbh i prefer rocisky lol. I used to adore him back in the days, he is such a class player but he is old though.
 

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I'm getting the impression Casemiro is this weeks media/commode hyped guy... Not knocking the guy, as to be honest I don't know enough about him, but I get the impression people are just saying things for the sake of it rather than from a factually based point of view...

There's got to be a new generation of Lamela's, Hamsik's, Eriksen's, Jovetic's, Hernanes's, Asamoah's, etc etc, good young players to be had for decent prices? Is Casemiro one of these, I don't know, has anyone got a proper, good idea on his skill level?

I am sure no one has actually seen him (casameiro) play. They all just dream up their own balderdash.
 

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Yes thats the only issue with jovetic, otherwise i would love to see him here. Jojo balo see fuckkkkk me.
 

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Two ways to form a team. create a formation around your players you buy, or buy players for your formation.. The former has NOT worked, so it's time for Pippo, and ONLYYYYYYY Pippo to decide what formation he wants to play.

Then, they can go out and get the players needed. Pippo has played under the 4-3-1-2 and also the 4-3-2-1 X-mas Tree. There also seems to be a possibility of the 4-3-3 given El Shaaraway on the team.

Once that's established, then I think we can start formulating who we will buy. However, there's been no indication Berlusconi will spend. So no one should get excited in any way. Enjoy the World Cup.
 

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Gs policy is to form a team with whatever free transfers he can find
 

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How much would Cigarini cost?
I think he's a realistic target and perfect fit for the regista role. He can both create and defend very well.
 

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I Agree Too . Cigarini is good option . very good vision and passing .
 

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How much would Cigarini cost?
I think he's a realistic target and perfect fit for the regista role. He can both create and defend very well.

His buddy Bonaventura is set to leave Atalanta
I think he would be a great addition as well

atm only Fiorentina showed some intrest in him
 

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Bonaventura, cigarini and baselli. Vamos
 

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Mexes refuses to rescind and leave Milan according to CdS. Whilst Milan have apparently contacted Atalanta over Cigarini as a "temporary replacement" for Monto.
 

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Thats good but atalanta will want $$
 

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Mexes refuses to rescind and leave Milan according to CdS. Whilst Milan have apparently contacted Atalanta over Cigarini as a "temporary replacement" for Monto.

Nooo mexes leaveeee !!!! Nobody wants you
 

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What has Mexes got to lose, if we look at it from his point of view? He can sit on the Milan bench, behind Alex and most likely Rami, fill in occasionally, and make a healthy profit before a new windfall contract elsewhere next summer.

It makes me sick that 'footballers' would rather sit on the bench then actually play the sport 'they love'.
 

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The eternal prospect Cigarini? Sure, why not.Always liked this player alot.Also Monto is injured and it would be, not only, a relastic target but also a very good signing.

Inter sure knows how to waste their prospects. :lol:
 
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