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when Prince went on to the field last game, he reminded me of that kid in Gym class that always gets picked last, but the one time he gets to play he tries to overdo it and forgets that he is actually shit
I don't remember he touched the ball once , did he ?
I just don't get why we don't give those minutes to Mauri or Loca.
 

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I don't think he'll give up majority, but I can understand. He made this club so great, and it's not easy for him make such a decision after all those years.

Also, if the chinese don't turn out well for the club the first person we're going to blame is Berlusconi.

If he doesn't decide to sell however, I would be happy only if he lets Galliani go into retirement. Maybe we can finally have a proper set up at the club with sporting director, scouts that actually find players...you know like a modern day football club. At that point Barbara would take over and probably hire the correct staff because at least she understands that she can't do everything on her own.
 

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I don't remember he touched the ball once , did he ?
I just don't get why we don't give those minutes to Mauri or Loca.

I have a feeling Locatelli will play next game maybe even start.

No but the first thing he did was take a full sprint towards goal with his hand up asking for the ball even though he was covered by both CBs :lol:
 

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I don't think we have anyone that could, but we are going to need a true 3/4, or we switch to a 4-3-3 to accommodate the squad.

TBH though with Balo and Bona on the field at the same time they are almost interchangeable. Balo likes to move around the whole field and Bona likes to drift wide, so with proper management 4312 could work without a true 3/4 for now. But Balo and Bona would have to be playing on the same wavelength

Balo on the pitch is one of the biggest problems with this team.

Unfit Menez should take his place.
 

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Also, if the chinese don't turn out well for the club the first person we're going to blame is Berlusconi.

If he doesn't decide to sell however, I would be happy only if he lets Galliani go into retirement. Maybe we can finally have a proper set up at the club with sporting director, scouts that actually find players...you know like a modern day football club. At that point Barbara would take over and probably hire the correct staff because at least she understands that she can't do everything on her own.

Ugh, Galliani. 🙄

How can a 72 years old run a club of this magnitude singlehandedly?
 

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Balo on the pitch is one of the biggest problems with this team.

Unfit Menez should take his place.

He was our best player last 2 games, the guy is actually running and chasing down defenders.
Even ran all the way back to LB position to recover a ball he lost. If Bertolacci ran half of that last few games I would be happy.

Balo on the pitch is a problem when he is un-interested, and just causing problems. However when he is running and creating chances, getting fouled 9 times then unless you don't like the team I dont know how you can consider that a problem.

Also, when was the last time you've seen Balo calming a player down besides last game? (When Poli tried to be a hero)
 

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He was our best player last 2 games, the guy is actually running and chasing down defenders.
Even ran all the way back to LB position to recover a ball he lost. If Bertolacci ran half of that last few games I would be happy.

Balo on the pitch is a problem when he is un-interested, and just causing problems. However when he is running and creating chances, getting fouled 9 times then unless you don't like the team I dont know how you can consider that a problem.

Also, when was the last time you've seen Balo calming a player down besides last game? (When Poli tried to be a hero)

Balotelli's game is to get freekicks and try his luck, nothing more.

I don't remember the last time someone had a good game playing next to Balotelli.
 

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You missed my point - i asked how do you rate niang if compared to bona. And if not bona then who instead of him from current squad? Because we are in some reality, who should replace bona - berto, honda, prince, poli, menez?
You cant just say bona is shit and he shouldnt start...

Again dude, you're the same guy that has Locatelli as one of his favourite players and you've never even seen him play for one minute, these are the kinds of fans that we have to deal with on this forum. That's just as irrelevant as you bringing up Niang. Me rating Niang has absolutely nothing to do with me rating Bonaventura's performance in the Sampdoria game because Niang did not play in that game.

Do you really think Bona had a good game yesterday? Besides the assist, do you remember how many positive things he did in the game? It'll be less than 3-4 occasions that you can remember. He had many chances to do a lot more but he wasted every single ball that came to him except that one assist which by the way needed a whole lot of luck from Bacca because his finish went between the legs of the defender. If that goal had not been scored, NO ONE, I repeat NO ONE would be claiming Bonaventura had a good game because he wouldn't have had the assist that has erased the remainder of his performance from your memories.

Hitman, who should we replace that bad player Bonaventura with ?

you're not one to have a football conversation with because of your flawed understanding and bias towards certain players. evidence below.

Bonaventura should be benched every once in a while. He cannot be playing 95 minutes every single game and play consistently this bad. We may not have a better starter than him right now but I never wanted him to be benched from the starting lineup, I always complain because the Milan fans just automatically brand his performances as great just because he had one assist.



Balo on the pitch is one of the biggest problems with this team.

Unfit Menez should take his place.

you'd want an unfit Menez who we've seen play last game over Balo who's been our most dangerous player in the last 2 games? You don't care about progress, you don't care about facts, you don't care about the present.

You care about your ideas (set in the past) being right and that's why you'd want an unfit Menez starting over him. NO ONE should want Menez starting over Balo after we've seen the recent performances of both players.
 
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The Chinese consortium interested in acquiring Milan have completed the due diligence on club's accounts [Corriere dello Sport].

They also have a prepared investment plan which would guarantee Milan €300m revenue in two years bet. Sponsors, summer tours & partnerships.

@CorSport also claim that the Chinese group and Fininvest are very close to reaching a preliminary agreement.

Berlusconi is still pondering, wants to know the number of investors, their identity and precisely their financial strength [CorSport].
 

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And if they have underage daughters
 

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Cafu: "I hope that Milan can fight for the scudetto next season because it's a great club. Milan must also play in the Champions League again. Brocchi is a good coach and a golden boy who did well in all the teams he played for. Brocchi is still young & lacks experience as a coach, but I will always be cheering for him. I hope that he brings back our big Milan Berlusconi's departure? The decision is his and only him knows what's the best for the club."

CorSport writes that if Brocchi is confirmed for next season then Matri could be confirmed by the club.

Ravezzani (director of TeleLombardia): "Against Sampdoria it wasn't a better Milan than the Milan we have seen with Miha, but even worse."

#CorSport: The Chinese consortium interested in acquiring Milan have completed the due diligence on club's accounts. They also have a prepared investment plan which would guarantee Milan €300m revenue in two years. Sponsors, summer tours & partnerships. The Chinese group and Fininvest are very close to reaching a preliminary agreement.

Abbiati: "I would like to have one last year with Milan but we'll see."

Abbiati: "As 16 years old I was a baker, I was helping the family. I divided the day between the work and training. After 20 years at Milan, they are my second family. I owe everything to Milan. I am pleased with the sacrifices I have made. You have to have goals in life, but you can reach it only with sacrifice, respect and education. "

#Leggo: Mino Raiola is working to terminate the contract of Balotelli with Liverpool. The player wants to stay at Milan.

Nocerino: "I like Brocchi as a coach and as a person. I spoke with him and he is prepared. I hope he wins this chance because he deserve. Miha? He made me play little, but I had no problem. Everyone makes his choices, I made mine and I'm glad I came to Orlando."

CorSera: The Chinese group have a very clear idea, and they have already asked the Chinese government for permission for the operation.

Balo for free would be amazing, much better than paying 15m for Pavoletti.
 

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Balotelli's game is to get freekicks and try his luck, nothing more.

I don't remember the last time someone had a good game playing next to Balotelli.

With more touches than Riccardo Montolivo and Giacomo Bonaventura, Mario Balotelli’s performance against Sampdoria may have been his best this season

the striker won the ball back four times, along with winning four challenges

Balo was basically moving into the 3/4 position allowing Bonaventura more space when attacking, going forward this trident can be successful at least till the end of the season
 

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With more touches than Riccardo Montolivo and Giacomo Bonaventura, Mario Balotelli’s performance against Sampdoria may have been his best this season

the striker won the ball back four times, along with winning four challenges

Balo was basically moving into the 3/4 position allowing Bonaventura more space when attacking, going forward this trident can be successful at least till the end of the season

I wanna see Balo-Bacca with Honda behind them.

Jack can go LCM and take Bertolacci's place. He's going to have to do a lot more defending though which would mean bringing away from goal which could turn out to be the best move of his career. He's not good enough near the goal, his shots and assist attempts are abysmal, but he's clearly talented. If tamed the right way, he could be squad player that could be a box to box midfielder. Definitely not trequartista though. He's not smart nor humble enough to play there.
 
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Alright Hitman, let's start the statistics lesson.

Mario Balotelli played 7360 mins of Serie A so far in his career , scoring 47 goals.

Out of those 47 goals, there are 10 PKs and 7 FKs.

Thus Mario Balotelli scored 30 open-play goals in 7360 mins in his Serie A career.

That's a goal every 245 minutes.

Shall I compare him with other Serie A strikers ?
 

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I wanna see Balo-Bacca with Honda behind them.

Jack can go LCM and take Bertolacci's place. He's going to have to do a lot more defending though which would mean bringing away from goal which could turn out to be the best move of his career. He's not good enough near the goal, his shots and assist attempts are abysmal, but he's clearly talented. If tamed the right way, he could be squad player that could be a box to box midfielder. Definitely not trequartista though. He's not smart nor humble enough to play there.

Problem is last season with Pipo Bonaventura played at LCM and didn't do well. Granted no one can do worse than Bertolacci at this point I guess and would give Honda a chance to do something from his preferred position

Balo for free would be amazing, much better than paying 15m for Pavoletti.

Signing Balos brother would be a better move than signing Pavoletti for 15m
 

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Alright Hitman, let's start the statistics lesson.

Mario Balotelli played 7360 mins of Serie A so far in his career , scoring 47 goals.

Out of those 47 goals, there are 10 PKs and 7 FKs.

Thus Mario Balotelli scored 30 open-play goals in 7360 mins in his Serie A career.

That's a goal every 245 minutes.

Shall I compare him with other Serie A strikers ?


No, compare him to the other Milan strikers in the squad right now, for this season, because those are the ones he's competing against for a starting spot right?

Come back to me when you get your goals per minutes ratio. Or don't :D.

But I will not be responding to you any further because conversing with you is pointless, I gave my reasons in the previous post with evidence your bias towards him. You prefer a crooked Menez to play over him even when Mario is clearly trying and is more useful than not just Menez, but almost every player in the squad. He's the only one that's capable of changing a game when he wants, he's getting to his form slowly and his attitude is improving game by game as a result - but its nothing I'd expect someone like you to notice though.

Problem is last season with Pipo Bonaventura played at LCM and didn't do well. Granted no one can do worse than Bertolacci at this point I guess and would give Honda a chance to do something from his preferred position



Signing Balos brother would be a better move than signing Pavoletti for 15m



Honda even after his long string of impressive performances, used to continue to be pissed at Mihajlovic if you remember. Sinisa tried once to high 5 him after subbing him out at the 89th minute, Keisuke totally ignored him and went to the bench. Sinisa mentioned several times that Keisuke wants to play as a trequartista but if he doesn't want to play as a RW then he'll sit on the bench. Honda was tried as trequartista thrice in our first 4-5 games. One of the games he played for 35 minutes then Ely got sent off then dumbass Miha played a 4-3-0-2 lol... and another game he played quite bad. The first game he played as a trequartista was against Perugia where he scored and assisted in a 2-0 win.

He definitely deserves a chance for all the sacrifices he's done over the years in playing out of position. He's a very intelligent player but physically limited. I think he could do better than Jack as trequartista and I think Jack can do better at LCM than trequartista - he just needs to understand how to move and defend at LCM because it's different than when you are a LW in a 4-4-2.
 
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Again dude, you're the same guy that has Locatelli as one of his favourite players and you've never even seen him play for one minute, these are the kinds of fans that we have to deal with on this forum. That's just as irrelevant as you bringing up Niang. Me rating Niang has absolutely nothing to do with me rating Bonaventura's performance in the Sampdoria game because Niang did not play in that game.

Do you really think Bona had a good game yesterday? Besides the assist, do you remember how many positive things he did in the game? It'll be less than 3-4 occasions that you can remember. He had many chances to do a lot more but he wasted every single ball that came to him except that one assist which by the way needed a whole lot of luck from Bacca because his finish went between the legs of the defender. If that goal had not been scored, NO ONE, I repeat NO ONE would be claiming Bonaventura had a good game because he wouldn't have had the assist that has erased the remainder of his performance from your memories.

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I asked you how you value 2 certain players and who would you put instead of bona in. Im not talking about your one post against bona after last game but about your post since long time about him (and you may noticed that im saying that he play bad since winter).
Me liking loca is other story since i cant stand poli and berto in 3 man midfield what i also explained to someone (if not you was asking me about it) before. I prefer primavera players instead of some who wont be better - what most fans shoud do.
You prefer honda over bona on 3/4? ok i think honda played there and failed at begin of the season.
You want bona on lcm? ok, so he is soo bad but you will play him anyway :) what bring us to pretty same point - we dont really have choice and he should play:lol:
 

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Given a choice between Juventus pocketing €100m or keeping Pogba, Allegri says: Better to keep Pogba.

this is the mentality milan needs, to refuse big offers for donnarumma, bacca, niang, romagnoli etc."balance the books" "sell bacca for money" "sell niang for a good offer" this is what i read from milan fans, roma tried the same thing, selling their top players and buying others every year, what they won? nothing.
 

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I don't remember he touched the ball once , did he ?
I just don't get why we don't give those minutes to Mauri or Loca.

He won a header and got the ball outside our box a couple of times.

He's not been great or even good, but he's sent on to run around and be a presence in the AM position with the need to drop back or pressure their defenders and keeper. He does that well enough, and I don't think Mauri or Locatelli - who are much more defensively-minded(than Boateng) players.

Also, Balotelli was one of, if not our best player in the last game.

Criticise his impact earlier on this season, but he did well and there's no reason why he shouldn't start in the next game.

Also, the laughable people here who try to denigrate our players for scoring free-kicks are just pathetic. Balotelli won the majority of those penalties and FKs he scored, and it takes a great amount of ability to score FKs.

Would you rather have a striker who scored 19 open play goals a season, or one who scored 15 FKs and 5 penalties he won himself?

I think I know which one I'd take - coughit'stheonewithmoregoals.
 
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No, compare him to the other Milan strikers in the squad right now, for this season, because those are the ones he's competing against for a starting spot right?

Come back to me when you get your goals per minutes ratio. Or don't :D.

But I will not be responding to you any further because conversing with you is pointless, I gave my reasons in the previous post with evidence your bias towards him. You prefer a crooked Menez to play over him even when Mario is clearly trying and is more useful than not just Menez, but almost every player in the squad. He's the only one that's capable of changing a game when he wants, he's getting to his form slowly and his attitude is improving game by game as a result - but its nothing I'd expect someone like you to notice though.


He needs to get his first open-play goal in Serie A this season before I try to compare him to others.
 

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He won a header and got the ball outside our box a couple of times.

He's not been great or even good, but he's sent on to run around and be a presence in the AM position with the need to drop back or pressure their defenders and keeper. He does that well enough, and I don't think Mauri or Locatelli - who are much more defensively-minded(than Boateng) players.

Also, Balotelli was one of, if not our best player in the last game.

Criticise his impact earlier on this season, but he did well and there's no reason why he shouldn't start in the next game.

Also, the laughable people here who try to denigrate our players for scoring free-kicks are just pathetic. Balotelli won the majority of those penalties and FKs he scored, and it takes a great amount of ability to score FKs.

Would you rather have a striker who scored 19 open play goals a season, or one who scored 15 FKs and 5 penalties he won himself?

I think I know which one I'd take - coughit'stheonewithmoregoals.

I don't understand this either, since when is it a bad thing to be good at taking free kicks? I think it's just hate towards Balo because nobody mentions that when talking about Bonaventura and the 2-3 free kicks he scored this season
 

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I wanna see Balo-Bacca with Honda behind them.

Jack can go LCM and take Bertolacci's place. He's going to have to do a lot more defending though which would mean bringing away from goal which could turn out to be the best move of his career. He's not good enough near the goal, his shots and assist attempts are abysmal, but he's clearly talented. If tamed the right way, he could be squad player that could be a box to box midfielder. Definitely not trequartista though. He's not smart nor humble enough to play there.

Please elaborate on your definitions.

As far as I know, one of those players has 6 goals and 10 assists while the other has 1 goal and 3 assists.

What formula should I use to get that the 2nd player is more efficient ?
 

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I don't understand this either, since when is it a bad thing to be good at taking free kicks? I think it's just hate towards Balo because nobody mentions that when talking about Bonaventura and the 2-3 free kicks he scored this season

Before Mario returned from injury, Jack used to waste 3-4 free kicks a game into the wall or way too high, exactly like Mario versus Sampdoria... except that Jack did it for the whole season and Mario's done it only against Sampdoria.

Yet, people will complain about Mario doing it and not Jack.

You people ought to be ashamed of yourselves for this bias towards Balo. The media have formed your opinions for you and you are incapable of thinking otherwise.
 

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Please elaborate on your definitions.

As far as I know, one of those players has 6 goals and 10 assists while the other has 1 goal and 3 assists.

What formula should I use to get that the 2nd player is more efficient ?


maybe you're not that bright and don't know how to benchmark, but here i'll teach you how to do it...

player A scores 5 goals this season but plays only 2 games all season
player B scores 15 goals this season but plays 38 games....


who's better???

that's an easy one.

now a little trickier.

player A scores 5 goals and played 10 games this season
player B scores 5 goals and played 10 games this season

what do you do now? how do you analyze who performed better?


I'll let you think about it.
 

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Are there actually fucktards that wants to keep Balotelli and even arguing why he should stay? :lol:
 

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Again dude, you're the same guy that has Locatelli as one of his favourite players and you've never even seen him play for one minute, these are the kinds of fans that we have to deal with on this forum.

He asked you how you rate Niang and with who you would replace him from the players avaiable in our squad since you don't rate Bona at all. He, and the whole rest of this board, well understood why you are blaming Bonaventure, nevertheless his questions are legit and - for a sophisticated expert like you - easy to answer no doubt. Now what the fuck has his choice of favourite players to do with his questions? Nothing! You're blaming him for bringing up irrelevant things but at the same time you miss twice to answer a bloody simple question he asked you?

What's wrong with you?

"These are the kinds of fans that we have to deal with on this forum."

C'mon what type of cocky statement is this!?

Bonaventura should be benched every once in a while. He cannot be playing 95 minutes every single game and play consistently this bad. We may not have a better starter than him right now but I never wanted him to be benched from the starting lineup, I always complain because the Milan fans just automatically brand his performances as great just because he had one assist.

That's almost paranoia. Where are all those praises you're talking about? Agreed he had a great run of form around christmas and where he has been praised a lot not only from board members here but from almost all football experts and journalists in Italy. Now you can share this opinion or not.

But please stop claiming all the time that everyone here is hyping Bona as our own Messi after every match when in fact almost everyone has noticed his decrease of form since weeks. No one is praising him anymore, because it's obvious that his great run of form has finished (I know your optinion is he's never been good but piss poor). But as Wild already said, he's still one of our best performers and there are other position who need to be revisited before we even think about replacing Jack.

And now with no hard words: I see from your last post that you might think the same. As I personally am a big fan of Niang although he has his flaws, I'm interested - just as set1899 - why you have such a different rating overall, not only the last couple of weeks where Niang has been injured, for those two players (Jack and Niang) who both have similar flaws like dribbling and holding the ball too much and bad decision making / vision. I invite you to explain your thinking without personal attacks about our intelligence or unknowledge.
 
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Are there actually fucktards that wants to keep Balotelli and even arguing why he should stay? :lol:

yes. not that you know anything about saving money or using it. the question you should be asking is:

are there actually fucktards who in 2016 still get ripped off by prostitutes though? and think they deserve a pat on the back for doing that? :lol:


off-topic i know. but not really. says a lot about you and the background to which you come up with conclusions. it's fucked up. people should never take anything you say seriously.
 
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