The Rumour Commode XXXIX: A Cardinal Sin

[Kojak]

How is Zaniolo a MONUMENTAL upgrade on Saele/Messias ffs

Lol because he has the potential to be great (and has shown it in patches). If it wasn’t for his expiring contract, he’d cost more than the current 30m asking price whereas bruh’s laughed when I said we can get 15m for dumb + dumber combined

 

[Congo Powers]

You’ll see tomorrow bud

Okay pussy

 

[SecondStar]

If Zaniolo comes here, I would love for him to prove me wrong, and turn into our RW Theo.

I hated Faivre for doing unprofessional shit and was happy we stopped negotiating with Brest out of respect, that was a classy move on Maldini's part.

And of course there is... Chiesa. (Don't tell me, I know, I know.)

I wish that was the reason we ceased negotiations. In reality, it was because Brest wouldn’t accept the disrespectful lowballing.

Paul’s propaganda machine is strong.

 

[Samaldinho]

Given that we probably only have 50m to spend this summer (excluding sales) and there are several holes to fill in the team (CB/CM/RW), signing Zaniolo for 20m is the best we can hope for. Obviously I’d like to buy somebody better like Diaby but that’s unrealistic given the factors listed above.

Besides, Zaniolo is a MONUMENTAL upgrade on Messias + Salad combined @ RW and CDK in the hole. Also, he has several seasons of Serie A football under his belt so wouldn’t need time to adapt like Diaz, CDK, Adli, Vrancx etc. That’s precisely the same reason why I want Paolo to pickup Jorginho for free who is also a quality, Serie A proven player available for nothing which frees up funds for other positions.

The only upside of Zaniolo is that he's Italian trained, and big, strong, and fast. Yes, he can dribble. But that's only good for youtube highlights that cut off before you have to deliver a pass, cross, or shot.

I am sure there are a million young RW that we can bring in from Ligue 1. Ludovic Blas, for example, would be better than Zaniolo and cheaper. Can play as a CAM, too. Works hard and is a leader, captains Nantes.

I just don't see how he's a monumental upgrade when he can't out perform the players we have at his position now.

The problems that plague him at Roma he also showed when he returned to play for Italy. He is a ball hog who either can't pass or won't pass. It's not like he's scoring goals to compensate for that.

 

[yungeddy]

Uefa need to stop this...it hurts the integrity of the game

What value does the cl have if english teams have massive advantages over others?

 

[Pigeon]

If Zaniolo comes here, I would love for him to prove me wrong, and turn into our RW Theo.

I hated Faivre for doing unprofessional shit and was happy we stopped negotiating with Brest out of respect, that was a classy move on Maldini's part.

And of course there is... Chiesa. (Don't tell me, I know, I know.)

the unprofessional shit is sadly by far our least problem regarding zaniolo

 

[Samaldinho]

I wish that was the reason we ceased negotiations. In reality, it was because Brest wouldn’t accept the disrespectful lowballing.

Paul’s propaganda machine is strong.
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Reports pointed to Milan withdrawing because of Faivre's conduct.

If you have reports to the contrary, I didn't see them.

But please, tell me more about propaganda.

Also writing Paolo is still too much for you, but you Google image searched that?

 

[Kojak]

The only upside of Zaniolo is that he's Italian trained, and big, strong, and fast. Yes, he can dribble. But that's only good for youtube highlights that cut off before you have to deliver a pass, cross, or shot.

I am sure there are a million young RW that we can bring in from Ligue 1. Ludovic Blas, for example, would be better than Zaniolo and cheaper. Can play as a CAM, too. Works hard and is a leader, captains Nantes.

I just don't see how he's a monumental upgrade when he can't out perform the players we have at his position now.

The problems that plague him at Roma he also showed when he returned to play for Italy. He is a ball hog who either can't pass or won't pass. It's not like he's scoring goals to compensate for that.

The problem with signing a foreign winger like Blas is that they’ll probably need time to adapt and we can’t afford yet another season with an ineffective right flank. Also, Zaniolo is tactically flexible and able to cover multiple positions including AM+CF. Anyway, like I said before, I’d like to send Diaz, Salad + Messias packing and bring in another RW in ADDITION to Zaniolo.

RW: New RW/Zaniolo
AM: CDK/Zaniolo
LW: Leao/Rebic

 

[Pigeon]

the latest i could find

Reports: Faivre deal off as talks between Milan and Brest fall apart - the reason

It looks as though AC Milan will be forced to move on to another target as Brest have not accepted their latest bid for Romain Faivre, reports claim.

sempremilan.com

 

[Swagotelli]

Women's Serie A, Milan-Inter (1-4): heavy defeat in the derby​

Performance issues crossing genders now

 

[King George]

Welcome Zaniolo

 

[SecondStar]

Reports pointed to Milan withdrawing because of Faivre's conduct.

If you have reports to the contrary, I didn't see them.

But please, tell me more about propaganda.

Also writing Paolo is still too much for you, but you Google image searched that?

The only publication that alluded to us pulling out of the Faivre negotiations due to his conduct was tuttoshit.

According to Di Marzio, Brest rejected multiple bids from us during that window. They initially wanted €18m, before dropping to €15m plus bonuses. However, Paul only offered €10m and then €12m + €3m bonuses. After they saw how unserious Paul was to conduct business, they made the decision to take Faivre completely off the market and not sell him.

But, let’s choose to believe the children’s bedtime story that the heroic Paul decided against pushing for Faivre due to his moral standard (that he apparently doesn’t uphold for Zaniolo).

English is the lingua franca, he must deal with being called Paul if we must deal with him wasting €35m.

 

[Pingu]

You’ll see tomorrow bud

Laughing when we win so BIG against Sassuolo that they are automatically relegated? Agree.

 

[Deleted member 35916]

Reports pointed to Milan withdrawing because of Faivre's conduct.

If you have reports to the contrary, I didn't see them.

But please, tell me more about propaganda.

Also writing Paolo is still too much for you, but you Google image searched that?

Doesn’t trying to sign Zaniollo completely destroy that narrative?

 

[dcfcfan1]

cremonsese what a goal

 

[Samaldinho]

The only publication that alluded to us pulling out of the Faivre negotiations due to his conduct was tuttoshit.

According to Di Marzio, Brest rejected multiple bids from us during that window. They initially wanted €18m, before dropping to €15m plus bonuses. However, Paul only offered €10m and then €12m + €3m bonuses. After they saw how unserious Paul was to conduct business, they made the decision to take Faivre completely off the market and not sell him.

But, let’s choose to believe the children’s bedtime story that the heroic Paul decided against pushing for Faivre due to his moral standard (that he apparently doesn’t uphold for Zaniolo).

English is the lingua franca, he must deal with being called Paul if we must deal with him wasting €35m.

So, why don't you translate the names of Di Marzio? Or Faivre?

I don't care enough to look up reports to have a battle of the internet searches (sorry pigeon, luv u) to illustrate my point.

But do you know what's so great about the Faivre deal that you all are crying about? Faivre sucked balls.

Faivre was such a bad buy that Lyon took advantage of the war in Ukraine to bring in another player to replace Faivre. Two months after getting him.

Don't worry, I'm sure that none of you will try and spin the fact that Faivre looks set to be leaving Lyon on loan, in a year, to the mighty and powerful Lorient.

 

[SecondStar]

So, why don't you translate the names of Di Marzio? Or Faivre?

I don't care enough to look up reports to have a battle of the internet searches (sorry pigeon, luv u) to illustrate my point.

But do you know what's so great about the Faivre deal that you all are crying about? Faivre sucked balls.

Faivre was such a bad buy that Lyon took advantage of the war in Ukraine to bring in another player to replace Faivre. Two months after getting him.

Don't worry, I'm sure that none of you will try and spin the fact that Faivre looks set to be leaving Lyon on loan, in a year, to the mighty and powerful Lorient.

Brother, I didn’t want Roman (happy?). I’m simply pointing out that the reason we didn’t push for him wasn’t because of his conduct.

 

[taura]

Now do you believe me that he’s as good as ours this summer?

I dont. I doubt he's our main rw objective and Paolo just tried to make most of the current situation regarding him and Roma

 

[Curupira]

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Reports pointed to Milan withdrawing because of Faivre's conduct.

If you have reports to the contrary, I didn't see them.

But please, tell me more about propaganda.

Also writing Paolo is still too much for you, but you Google image searched that?

 

[Deleted member 35916]

Brother, I didn’t want Roman (happy?). I’m simply pointing out that the reason we didn’t push for him wasn’t because of his conduct.

It’s insane to me just what people here choose to believe. Zaniollo pursuit completely destroys the Faivre narrative and yes people still believe it was because of his conduct. It was and always will be about money.

 

[taura]

it’s unreal how they offload their fodder. potential 33mil for this bum. that would be our 5th highest sale ever.

This makes me hopeful that even if cdk flops hard we can flop him for profit

 

[MilanMB]

Women's Serie A, Milan-Inter (1-4): heavy defeat in the derby​

Performance issues crossing genders now

There are no genders

We just have two teams

 

[Samaldinho]

The problem with signing a foreign winger like Blas is that they’ll probably need time to adapt and we can’t afford yet another season with an ineffective right flank. Also, Zaniolo is tactically flexible and able to cover multiple positions including AM+CF. Anyway, like I said before, I’d like to send Diaz, Salad + Messias packing and bring in another RW in ADDITION to Zaniolo.

RW: New RW/Zaniolo
AM: CDK/Zaniolo
LW: Leao/Rebic

Tonali took time to adjust, so I'm not sure if it's about foreigners taking time. I think there are a million different factors (on and off the field) that determine whether a player adjusts to a new team or not, and that is true for players in all places, all countries, all different levels. Zaniolo being Italian doesn't hurt, but I'm not banking on him being Italian as some automatic smooth transition into our team.

I just don't have the faith in Zaniolo, I don't see him as a good AM since he can't pass.

Again, if Zaniolo comes here, I'd love to be wrong about him. I just don't want him here. His attitude, how he wants to play, etc. I just don't want him here.

He has a great set of tools, physically, but he doesn't seem to have the head to improve.

 

[brk]

Tbh I blame MMM and not RedBird. After all, they provided Maldini with 50m net spend last summer (the highest in Serie A) and he did the following:-

*Spent 35m on CDK aka 'red herring' when Serie A proven Dybala was available for FREE
*Spent 15m on Thiaw, Adli + Vrancx who hardly ever play
*Didn't sell a single player when Pobega would've fetched c.15m following a great season with Torino
*Allowed Romagnoli + Kessie to walk for free without earning a dime or replacing them properly
*Handed Origi a 4m net 4 year deal despite only playing 500 mins in each of the past 2 seasons
*Handed Florenzi a 3m net 3 year deal despite his extensive injury history
*Renewed Salad until 2026 and redeemed Messias despite ZERO contribution on the right flank

These acts of gross incompetence and misallocation of funds are all Maldini's mistakes and NOT RedBird's.

Florenzi is on 2m net

 

[Samaldinho]

Brother, I didn’t want Roman (happy?). I’m simply pointing out that the reason we didn’t push for him wasn’t because of his conduct.

So, then not paying the price that Brest wanted was... the correct choice then?

 

[SecondStar]

So, then not paying the price that Brest wanted was... the correct choice then?

Yes.

 

[Samaldinho]

Wait. How does the narrative around Faivre get busted around Zaniolo?

Is he here? Has he joined our team? Is Zaniolo a Milan player?

 

[Curupira]

Wait. How does the narrative around Faivre get busted around Zaniolo?

Is he here? Has he joined our team? Is Zaniolo a Milan player?

I get you are making a point

Please man, anyone but you. No more jinxes, we might still be able to get out of this deal

 

[Tantalis]

fairvres mom isnt even hot

 

[Alo88]

Stefano Pioli:

“We have the resources and the qualities necessary to get out of this crisis, no need for reinforcements.”

I rewatched the whole press conference in Italian and couldn't find this quote. The closest to this I could find was something along (from the top of my head):

"The Mercato? The property made its stance clear already long time ago. Still, we do have the qualities necessary to get out of this crisis. Then it's true Tomori got hurt, which is an injury really not needed, but it can happen in the course of a season where you play a lot of games. Therefore, we're fine as we are."

Now for someone who doesn't speak Italian I get the confusion with the literal translation ("we're fine as we are"). But when you speak Italian and hear the tonality and concept of how he expressed it, the proper translation is: "Therefore, it is what it is."

Not that I suddenly am back agreeing with everything Pioli says. But here it's really too easy to take this sentence out of context and give it a total different spin if not translated properly.