The Rumour Commode XLIV: Paragliding to Piolistine Crisis

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I think that was the plan all along. When you take these statements and how Cardinale describes Zlatan you could strike Zlatan and replace his name with Maldini and those statements would still remain true.

IMO, he wanted Maldini to be what Zlatan is going to be, but for whatever reason, the collaboration failed and they parted ways. Though I don't think it failed because of a clash of ego and ambition alone because who else if not Zlatan is the epitome of ego and ambition?

And if Gerry hates other taking a shiny place in the spotlight, hiring Zlatan of all people to basically run Milan would be a very idiotic move. I don't think Gerry is an idiot. He's too successful with his other assets to be an idiot.
I agree 100%. I think Maldini must have been a lot more confrontational than we think and wasn’t playing nice with the data or scouting team. It’s clearly not about Gerry wanting the spotlight to himself because of the reasons you mentioned.
 

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Why not? I think we will have a good transfer budget to satisfy him in summer.
But until we qualify to CL any talk about new coach is just speculation

Because, on the one hand, it is basically impossible to fulfill Conte's wishes. On the other hand, it is massively more difficult if you want to work sustainably and financially self-sufficient, which is our philosophy.

In the summer of 22/23, he was allowed to spend €140m in transfer fees and was still unhappy. Tottenham also played incredibly shit.

I don't understand how fans would like to see Conte coaching Milan. Conte is a coach of the old guard, outdated methods, trapped in the past.
 

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#BrahimDiaz made the leap in quality with #Ancelotti , Ruud #Gullit : "He does things that he didn't do at Milan"


What a surprise

Said no one ever

If it wasnt for Maldini, Pioli and Milan he could have been another Bojan etc...
 

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Why not? I think we will have a good transfer budget to satisfy him in summer.
But until we qualify to CL any talk about new coach is just speculation
We are built to play the same sort of football as Motta or RDZ. Conte would force us to rethink a lot of things and it would be more of a rebuild than a progressive step in the same path.

I’ve been really impressed with Motta recently and have been watching a lot of Bologna. If we can get him, Zirkzee and Calafiori we would be basically all good for the new season.

Maignan
Sportiello

Calabria
Terracciano

Theo
Florenzi

Calafiori
Tomori
Gabbia
Thiaw
Kalulu

Bennacer
Adli
RLC
Reijnders
Musah
Pobega

Leao
Okafor

Pulisic
Chukwueze

Zirkzee
Jovic



I think this is a fairly robust squad. Maybe we need a Freuler type player who can reliably shift to the back line, we don’t really have that. But besides that I don’t see much of a weakness.
 

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Although analysis was not my specialty, I had to teach the real analysis course one semester. A student was crying to me during office hours, and I told him that a lot of people stumble when confronted with math for the first time. He told me he was great at math, and pointed to his calculus sequence. I had to tell him that wasn’t math, but tricks we had to teach people who wanted to be engineers.

But, nice to know there’s another math geek on here
I did it as an elective like a moron. But no regrets. I loved the challenge. So many failed lol. I passed somehow. But I swear to God that Waa the hardest subject I ever did back in uni days.

For engineering subjects I would barely put any effort. Like most engineering subjects including automation control and stuff like dynamics and thermo I studied maybe max 5 6 hours a week for each one. Mostly did homework.

But real analysis I had to freaking study. I mean like actually study hard loll. I did I swear like 15 to 20 hours a week for real. Including problem sets. I used to spend 4 hours to figure out like a 4 line problem. Loooool drove me mad but it really challenged everyone for sure. You are right though. A good proof foundation is needed and you can do well in RA otherwise you going to struggle bad. Most people spent 20 to 30 hours on it per week.
 

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We are built to play the same sort of football as Motta or RDZ. Conte would force us to rethink a lot of things and it would be more of a rebuild than a progressive step in the same path.

I’ve been really impressed with Motta recently and have been watching a lot of Bologna. If we can get him, Zirkzee and Calafiori we would be basically all good for the new season.

Maignan
Sportiello

Calabria
Terracciano

Theo
Florenzi

Calafiori
Tomori
Gabbia
Thiaw
Kalulu

Bennacer
Adli
RLC
Reijnders
Musah
Pobega

Leao
Okafor

Pulisic
Chukwueze

Zirkzee
Jovic



I think this is a fairly robust squad. Maybe we need a Freuler type player who can reliably shift to the back line, we don’t really have that. But besides that I don’t see much of a weakness.
Like it but we do still need a DM and a rb. Please I don't want to see calabria play again
 

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Like it but we do still need a DM and a rb. Please I don't want to see calabria play again
I’m very optimistic about Terracciano.

I agree about the need for a 6 if it’s Motta, not if it’s RDZ.

If it’s truly a runoff between RDZ and Motta then we’re in for a treat.
 

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The stadium is so important for our future, it is worthy of celebrating. Honestly, it is.

I don't doubt Gerry's ambition, nor do I doubt that he wants Milan to do well--it is in his financial interest.

I have questions over whether his ego allows him to make the best choices, I think firing Maldini was a very bad choice for the brand and for the organization.

I worry that Milan will be like 2010s Napoli. Exciting, some great players, ultimately won nothing and wasted a lot of great teams.

In comparison to the banter era, that would be heavenly.

In comparison to the expectations of the fans of Milan, the brand that is Milan, and the stated goals of Redbird, that kind of existence would be a failure.

The stadium, however, is tremendously important. We cannot return to our former place without it, with or without Maldini or whoever.
I’ve been wondering lately if Maldini’s reputation as a director was spared by Cardinale’s decision. Imagine this season with Maldini still in charge: He was the one that extended Pioli, so he would be blamed for that, and he stated he would NOT have sacrificed Tonali to raise funds, so we probably come into the year with CDK and possibly Diaz still in attack and maybe a new midfielder or 2 (we would have had 40-50M to spend without sales).
 

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I agree 100%. I think Maldini must have been a lot more confrontational than we think and wasn’t playing nice with the data or scouting team. It’s clearly not about Gerry wanting the spotlight to himself because of the reasons you mentioned.

Maldini could have been more confrontational, could even have had some antiquated ideas that didn't align with a more algorithm based scouting process... and this ultimately wasn't conducive to working with Gerry.

But Gerry can like the spotlight....

It's not a slight on Gerry saying he has an ego and likes having his moments in the spot light...

Listen to the guy, he's media savvy as fuck, very political in how he talks and basks in his own importance.

Ibra puts on a show, the Lion, etc, but it's said he's a pretty easy going guy behind the scenes. Maybe his ego aligns with Gerry's because he isn't as emotionally invested as Maldini.

Logically thinking you'd have to say Maldini is more Milan than Ibra... Maldini will probably cast shade over most people at Milan just be being involved.

We're still taking about the guy after he left lol.

Gerry saying Ibra is Milan is funny, and Ibra smirking I think she's he knows it's not true, but it's funny and fuck it haha.

We can all have opinions and be correct in different ways.

Maybe Gerry and Ibra get things right this summer, we win #20 next season, go deep in the CL.

Theo and Leao shine on the CL stage, Tomori is a monster again, Adli is our conductor and mike saves some penalties...

Then all the feuding parties in here will acknowledge the foundation Maldini helped lay, on which Gerry and Ibra built on... Oh it will be a glorious day.

Then we'll count down to ground being broken for the stadium and we'll all be happy x
 

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I’ve been wondering lately if Maldini’s reputation as a director was spared by Cardinale’s decision. Imagine this season with Maldini still in charge: He was the one that extended Pioli, so he would be blamed for that, and he stated he would NOT have sacrificed Tonali to raise funds, so we probably come into the year with CDK and possibly Diaz still in attack and maybe a new midfielder or 2 (we would have had 40-50M to spend without sales).
You are aware that CDK and Diaz are odd things to use as slights against Maldini... The issue was Pioli playing them wrong.

Pioli is on Maldini but depending on what version of events you believe... We'd have Pirlo on the bench and Pioli would be sacked.

We finished 5th and lucked out a CL spot... Pioli might have been fired, we really don't know.

And, Pulisic and RLC were high on the Maldini lists if we believe over parts of stories.

As I said the other day, Paolo be chilling... It's folks in here trying to pin shit on the guy and play 4d chess with what he might have done.

Oh and CDK staying would have seen ChK not coming we could theorise... Is that a bad thing?

Let's let the Maldini thing go guys, really, even I'm bored of it now lol 😂

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The guys a Milan legend and fundamental piece in our regeneration, let's thank him and move on.
 
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I always thought Pioli got too much shit for stuff like this, including from me. Can't expect results and gamble players potentially not ready

The Thiaw and Adli situations were frustrating though
Look at how many people turned on Thiaw immediately after a couple of poor performances, though. Like, in 2023 he was being hailed as the next Kaiser in Germany, but he returns from a 3 month injury and commits a penalty and this board is asking for him to be sold.

I’ll go down insisting that there is something to slowly introducing young players. Padre threw CDK to the wolves and he was torn to shreds.
 

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Look at how many people turned on Thiaw immediately after a couple of poor performances, though. Like, in 2023 he was being hailed as the next Kaiser in Germany, but he returns from a 3 month injury and commits a penalty and this board is asking for him to be sold.

I’ll go down insisting that there is something to slowly introducing young players. Padre threw CDK to the wolves and he was torn to shreds.
Usually yeah

but Thiaw came on twice for Grandpa Kjaer and pussy Gabbia and looked incredible just to get shelved. Then he plays one of his first few starts in the CL KO stage and doesn't put a foot wrong. Adli lit up the preseason and added an aspect to the team missing since Kebab just to got iced for no reason. Those are the two that stick out as the most frustrating

I get it though as fans we want to see the new players but it's hard for a coach tasked with immediately winning to put faith in these completely new guys. As shit as this season has been I think Pioli has exceeded expectations in terms of integrating new players
 
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