The Rumour Commode XLIV: Paragliding to Piolistine Crisis

[papaberlu]

Milan fans prob don't wanna hear this but league play is a better measure of quality than KO football

KO football is a different beast entirely but it doesn't determine the better team

 

[papaberlu]

Pep 4 peating with the current level of prem will be more impressive than anything he could do in CL

 

[Cloren]

leaf and Sam to Massaro right now

 

[Samaldinho]

Milan fans prob don't wanna hear this but league play is a better measure of quality than KO football

KO football is a different beast entirely but it doesn't determine the better team

Perhaps, but, to counter:

1) two legs makes it less random
2) cheating in the league makes this less true in Italy
3) the quality of teams is higher in the CL, making it a more difficult competition, meanwhile league play is arguably more about access to resources and squad depth than other factors.

 

[Milan10]

I have plenty of other arguments that involve judicial proceedings and cheating, but you plug your ears when those come up.

I was cheering for Pep yesterday, that's the most annoying part. I wanted Pep to win. I wanted him to beat Chelsea, but he lost. Because he's a serial choker.

The fact that Ancelotti has won more European titles, basically owns Pep’s GOAT squad, and he didn’t have to violate every possible financial rule at City AND LITERALLY PAY FUCKING REFEREES AT BARCELONA should tilt everything in Carlo’s favor.

I don’t even care about Ancelotti being ranked at the top, but the fact 2 of Ancelotti’s biggest haters are glorifying Pep and City’s performance last night WHEN THEY WERE ELIMINATED BY ANCELOTTI is rich.

It’s Italian chef rich

It’s catenaccio

Calcio, man >>>>>>>>

 

[Cloren]

Perhaps, but, to counter:

1) two legs makes it less random
2) cheating in the league makes this less true in Italy
3) the quality of teams is higher in the CL, making it a more difficult competition, meanwhile league play is arguably more about access to resources and squad depth than other factors.

And since we are arguing on managers at this point

One can argue that for the league, usually the best squad wins, as long as the coach is decent.

While for CL, since the games are meant to be so tight, the managers tactics and man-management skills are more of a difference maker.

The fact that Ancelotti has won more European titles, basically owns Pep’s GOAT squad, and he didn’t have to violate every possible financial rule at City AND LITERALLY PAY FUCKING REFEREES AT BARCELONA should tilt everything in Carlo’s favor.

I don’t even care about Ancelotti being ranked at the top, but the fact 2 of Ancelotti’s biggest haters are glorifying Pep and City’s performance last night WHEN THEY WERE ELIMINATED BY ANCELOTTI is rich.

It’s Italian chef rich

It’s catenaccio

Calcio, man >>>>>>>>

The lack of shame from him is out of this world

 

[LemonCookies]

Milan fans prob don't wanna hear this but league play is a better measure of quality than KO football

KO football is a different beast entirely but it doesn't determine the better team

Pioli haters prob don't wanna hear this but we've gone 10W 3D 1L in the league in 2024. Somehow this will be spun as "not good enough." Curious.

 

[Ryo]

The interview showing a little more insight to Carlos's current coaching style.
He let's his side free roam.
Given how inept our team can be setting up defensively, don't think it would work for us.

Pioli at least gives the team a shape to work with. The problem with Padre is that he's so damn inflexible to changing things up when the opposing coach clearly develops ways to counter his plan A.

 

[Samaldinho]

Pep 4 peating with the current level of prem will be more impressive than anything he could do in CL

I'm sure Pep tells himself this at night.

 

[papaberlu]

Perhaps, but, to counter:

1) two legs makes it less random
2) cheating in the league makes this less true in Italy
3) the quality of teams is higher in the CL, making it a more difficult competition, meanwhile league play is arguably more about access to resources and squad depth than other factors.

Meh given the nature of the sport, two legs aren't enough to even out the randomness. Even then finals are one leg

That's a fair point about quality. Funnily enough, I think the ideal format to determine the best team would be the Super League but there's something just thrilling and fun about KO football

 

[Milan10]

Pep is a cheater, man. Fuck him.

Ancelotti made him cry on the pitch as a player and I saw Pep’s giant horseshoe bald spot appear last night as the match went on. Meanwhile, Carlo with a full head of hair and a heart full of love and friendship danced on him again in the classiest manner.

Pep was STRESSING when it went to ET knowing his baldness was getting more and more exposed with every passing minute.

 

[Dokoa]

They actually don’t their net spend is almost 0 over the last decade or so

They sell well

Tchuameni €80M + 20 add ons, Hazard €115M , Bellingham €105 M . €320M on three players.

 

[leaf]

Milan fans prob don't wanna hear this but league play is a better measure of quality than KO football

KO football is a different beast entirely but it doesn't determine the better team

Different championships measure different strengths.

There are sprints and there's long distance
Both measure different things.

Of course the most expensively assembled and supported team will be better over time. (Marathon). Just considering the depth factor alone means that City is the best in Europe

But there definitely is something to be said about being at a level when it is required (sprint). Being able to improvise and get results.

Carlo beat City with one of the best strikers in the world....without a proper CF. That's an achievement. Him getting this far while having to convert midfielders into CB's as there were SEVERAL massive injuries was also an achievement.

Being able to COPE with Pep's impressive game plan is also something you shouldn't turn your nose up on.

What gets me about this whole thing is that when Pep wins, it's because he's a genius and a philosopher etc. But when he loses the opponent NEVER gets the credit....in fact his losses are explained away as being insignificant. This is extremely annoying.

 

[LemonCookies]

The interview showing a little more insight to Carlos's current coaching style.
He let's his side free roam.
Given how inept our team can be setting up defensively, don't think it would work for us.

Some of our players need to free roam on the bench come summertime.

 

[Massaro94]

saf is the best

If bestnis not getting out of a ucl group then sure. He da







Failed to even make the group stages in 94 getting knocked out by alanine the qualifiers lmfao

Definitely not overrated

 

[papaberlu]

Pioli haters prob don't wanna hear this but we've gone 10W 3D 1L in the league in 2024. Somehow this will be spun as "not good enough." Curious.

I mean he is 2nd in the league isn't he

 

[papaberlu]

Pep is a cheater, man. Fuck him.

Ancelotti made him cry on the pitch as a player and I saw Pep’s giant horseshoe bald spot appear last night as the match went on. Meanwhile, Carlo with a full head of hair and a heart full of love and friendship danced on him again in the classiest manner.

Pep was STRESSING when it went to ET knowing his baldness was getting more and more exposed with every passing minute.

A manager imprints himself on his team and you can tell he gets nervous when those CL lights are bright

It's no wonder Pep's teams consistently shrink in those big CL moments. I mean hell even Inter was bossing them around. A more than fair criticism of Pep

 

[ZBoban]

Perhaps, but, to counter:

1) two legs makes it less random
2) cheating in the league makes this less true in Italy
3) the quality of teams is higher in the CL, making it a more difficult competition, meanwhile league play is arguably more about access to resources and squad depth than other factors.

That's why need a league where the best can play head to head for a complete season. Dare I say a Super League lol

 

[Samaldinho]

Meh given the nature of the sport, two legs aren't enough to even out the randomness. Even then finals are one leg

That's a fair point about quality. Funnily enough, I think the ideal format to determine the best team would be the Super League but there's something just thrilling and fun about KO football

You only get two legs against your rivals in a league, while you amass more points against teams with far less resources than you do to win.

If the EPL enforce the rules they apply to Everton, then City's titles get taken away.

 

[vB9]

leaf and Sam to Massaro right now

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If bestnis not getting out of a ucl group then sure. He da

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Failed to even make the group stages in 94 getting knocked out by alanine the qualifiers lmfao

Definitely not overrated

Sam, Dru... kick his head in sum more!

 

[Ryo]

Pioli haters prob don't wanna hear this but we've gone 10W 3D 1L in the league in 2024. Somehow this will be spun as "not good enough." Curious.

There's always a better team.

 

[iamditi]

The interview showing a little more insight to Carlos's current coaching style.
He let's his side free roam.
Given how inept our team can be setting up defensively, don't think it would work for us.

Pioli at least gives the team a shape to work with. The problem with Padre is that he's so damn inflexible to changing things up when the opposing coach clearly develops ways to counter his plan A.

Fuck, I envy them so much. Our club should have been there, fuck banter era. They won a lot I don't think we will ever catch them.

 

[Master Smurf]

my god, you're working harder than positivity force during our CL group stage 2021

Pioli needs a statue just for breaking the hold of positivity force

Vazquez coached them to the win lol

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Do we need to roll out the Eto'o interview about speaking to the team or the Ibra interview about Pep hiding

Pep 4 peating with the current level of prem will be more impressive than anything he could do in CL

Is Arsenal really impressive?
Chelsea and Utd cant get out of their way and Liverpool has been on and off

 

[papaberlu]

Different championships measure different strengths.

There are sprints and there's long distance
Both measure different things.

Of course the most expensively assembled and supported team will be better over time. (Marathon). Just considering the depth factor alone means that City is the best in Europe

But there definitely is something to be said about being at a level when it is required (sprint). Being able to improvise and get results.

Carlo beat City with one of the best strikers in the world....without a proper CF. That's an achievement. Him getting this far while having to convert midfielders into CB's as there were SEVERAL massive injuries was also an achievement.

Being able to COPE with Pep's impressive game plan is also something you shouldn't turn your nose up on.

What gets me about this whole thing is that when Pep wins, it's because he's a genius and a philosopher etc. But when he loses the opponent NEVER gets the credit....in fact his losses are explained away as being insignificant. This is extremely annoying.

I'm not discrediting Carlo's performance yesterday or his run a couple of years ago, he's been incredible

I agree the competitions are different beasts

Tuchel for example is a savant in the CL but an utter terrorist in the league

 

[ACM14061988]

Today or tomorrow the program agreement with San Donato and the Region of Lombardy will officially start

 

[vB9]

sumthin we can all lol at...

The Red Devils have stated they will accept no less than £100 million to consider selling Marcus Rashford.

deluded fecks

 

[Massaro94]

leaf and Sam to Massaro right now

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Sam still in shock that mbappe played for monaco

Bless his heart

 

[papaberlu]

You only get two legs against your rivals in a league, while you amass more points against teams with far less resources than you do to win.

If the EPL enforce the rules they apply to Everton, then City's titles get taken away.

The way the sport works those lesser teams will always be able to bother you if they adopt the right gameplan. You can dominate a relegation team for 90 minutes but all they need is one counter. There are ways to even the playing field on the pitch

Having to play 38 games evens that stuff out

Pep's City tenure will have an asterisk on it and rightfully so but can't fault him for it

 

[vB9]

Do we need to roll out the Eto'o interview about speaking to the team or the Ibra interview about Pep hiding

wot does this have to do with football? guy is non-confrontational, so wot? he has ppl to do that for him... feck Ibra... semi feck Eto'o (i like him as a player)

 

[Massaro94]

stop swinging blindly you dork... on yr side with this point

Clearly not when u think barca was the greatest club side of all time

FOH