The Rumour Commode XLIV: Paragliding to Piolistine Crisis

[Samaldinho]

 

[La Chupacabra]

European losses under Pioli:

• PSG: 3-0
• BVB: 1-3
• Rennais: 3-2
• Roma: 0-1
• Roma: 2-1
• Chelsea: 3-0
• Chelsea: 0-2
• Inter: 2-0
• Inter: 0-1
• Liverpool: 3-2
• Atletico Madrid: 3-2
• Porto: 1-0
• Liverpool: 1-2
• Lille: 0-3
• Man Utd: 0-1

Those in bald were the same game over and over again

 

[Massaro94]

Well run club is not the same as them being a goat club? Da FAQ you talking about?

They are a sustainable club. We need to aspire to be like them financially. Not depend on a business tycoon.

Performance wise why wouldn't I want us to be like them,? They reached semis with one of their weaker sides in about a decade.

But you just said they've got some players who are past it. If they're a well run club then that doesn't make sense.

Fact is bayern are not past it. They have a very good mid and attack with a decent defence.

Just because they floundered this season is more down to the coach.

Before their tie vs Arsenal I fully expected them to lose. But their quality shone through.

They deserve to be in the semis on merit and because they have the players to win important matches.

 

[ACM14061988]

What really annoyes me in our play is how easily we lose the 2nd ball. Also in that Roma goal, Gabbia has all the time - and what does he do? Passes it straight intoo Roma players feet. It happens so often!! Panic mode all the time

It is just who they are. I agree that this squad has a lot of holes and is nowhere near good enough to win every game. We kicked Gabbia out of this club with shame, Gabbia let Sassuolo score 5 goals on us! We can't be fooled because he played some good games against Empoli or Udinese, he is shit! Pure shit and he is not young at all he will soon be 25. This summer we need to fix our weaknesses and if Maignan has to go fine, good luck and thank you but goalkeepers are not a priority in today football

 

[mrki]

Suma said we are working to buy muscles to help the defense and to balance the squad, he said Roma deserved to win and we have to learn this lesson

Suma can go... you know what.

 

[pippofan]

Which Italians available would have helped us during our tough time? Maybe Chiesa and di Lorenzo but that’s about it

Which Italians available would have helped us during our tough time? Maybe Chiesa and di Lorenzo but that’s about it

Defensively Bastoni, Scalvini, Cambiaso, Buongiorno, Calafiori. Midfield Barella, Pellegrini, Ricci, (good regista), even young Colpani who has 8 goals and 4 assists with Monza, Cristante at DM.

 

[Massaro94]

Yes but they started. We also have serious issues vs tammy Abraham too.

We still haven't beaten roma at full strength.

Leave it man

Folks can't see what having two younger quality forwards is like. Piolis had to work with ibra and giroud at the tail-end of their careers. One came from the mls lol..
And the other is on his way.

It's fuckin outrageous what he's had to work with.

 

[Cloren]

Our players are spoiled?

They aren't spoiled, they're being told to do stupid things from a guy who left our best CM on the bench and held Theo back and let Calabria and Gabbia lead our attack.

They are told to cross, that's what we do. Chuk, Okafor, Leao, Pulisic are all crossing. It's an obvious instruction, they're all doing it.

The lack of organization and coherent plan is so obvious. Yesterday wasn't about heart, it was about comically stupid plans.

I don’t think you’re being fair. I agree Pioli is the main culprit but you’re absolving the blame on our players entirely, I think they play a part.

You think Pioli is telling to Theo to look disinterested, to tell RLC to no having any defensive awareness and lose his man in corners so easily, or telling Leao to make those half arsed runs. He’s telling Leao to cross yes, but crosses that run to the moon or out of the pitch in pitiful ways?

Did he tell Maignan to come out of the halfway line and lose the ball with no one marking him?

Okay you can blame Pioli for not disciplining them or motivating them, but they’re also adults getting paid millions. They are not kids, they owe the fans too.

 

[Massaro94]

What really annoyes me in our play is how easily we lose the 2nd ball. Also in that Roma goal, Gabbia has all the time - and what does he do? Passes it straight intoo Roma players feet. It happens so often!! Panic mode all the time

Players who do this at this level should be dropped.

If you can't make a pass just leave bro

 

[ymsv]

What really annoyes me in our play is how easily we lose the 2nd ball. Also in that Roma goal, Gabbia has all the time - and what does he do? Passes it straight intoo Roma players feet. It happens so often!! Panic mode all the time

I think he was expecting someone of our players to be there . I do not know who should however mark and cover that area .

 

[mrki]

Milan needs Conte, 2 cb's, right fb, dm and cf.

If that cheep Hollywood prick can't pay up fir his club then sell Mike and buy 5/6 players.

Furlani/Scaroni/etc are one huge embarrassing joke. I'm not surprised if it's true Furlani doesn't want Conte. He's probably scared.

Ibra? We'll see if he's up fir this. This pathetic management fired Paolo Maldini. So good luck to the Bosnian aguess.

 

[Curupira]

European losses under Pioli:

• PSG: 3-0
• BVB: 1-3
• Rennais: 3-2
• Roma: 0-1
• Roma: 2-1
• Chelsea: 3-0
• Chelsea: 0-2
• Inter: 2-0
• Inter: 0-1
• Liverpool: 3-2
• Atletico Madrid: 3-2
• Porto: 1-0
• Liverpool: 1-2
• Lille: 0-3
• Man Utd: 0-1

Those in bald were the same game over and over again

Same bald manager

 

[Master Smurf]

Refreshing that the leader of our radical fans is more cool headed than many in here.

"the change of coach is now mandatory facing a Milan that has long been boring, devoid of play, confused, inadequate, and unprepared especially in decisive matches"

Brilliantly said.

Cloren likes to take them to task but whomever writes their statements is top shelf.

They are always on point and written beautifully.

 

[Samaldinho]

I don’t think you’re being fair. I agree Pioli is the main culprit but you’re absolving the blame on our players entirely, I think they play a part.

You think Pioli is telling to Theo to look disinterested, to tell RLC to no having any defensive awareness and lose his man in corners so easily, or telling Leao to make those half arsed runs. He’s telling Leao to cross yes, but crosses that run to the moon or out of the pitch in pitiful ways?

Did he tell Maignan to come out of the halfway line and lose the ball with no one marking him?

Okay you can blame Pioli for not disciplining them or motivating them, but they’re also adults getting paid millions. They are not kids, they owe the fans too.

No. This isn't about who is paid or motivation, because our players ran and were tackling, this is so plainly about a stupid fucking plan.

Why play RLC then? Why play Musah RWB? Why play Bennacer?

Oh no, Maignan conceded a throw in with a bad touch, that cost us the game. Give me a break.

The reason why I'm so mad at Pioli is that the insane difference in our play and quality when Pioli adjusts his tactics, like against PSG or Napoli last year, and his refusal to do things like that again (mid blocks, 3 genuine CMs, defensive adjustments against Kvara, etc) and cranking up the man to man marking that gets picked apart consistently... it is annoying.

Pioli refuses to apply the approach that has given us our best wins, and doubles down on his stupid 424 and pushed into 415 territory yesterday.

But I'm not tearing into RLC or the players because his tactics were so overwhelmingly stupid, for God's sake look at what De Rossi said right before kick-off:

“Today they changed a little something, we expect Musah on the right wing in some circumstances. But we’ll see it now, it’s nice to discover my colleague’s moves.”

De Rossi is some managerial genius now?

 

[ACM14061988]

I'd buy Thiago Silva for free in a heartbeat

 

[La Chupacabra]

Same bald manager

Pun intended

 

[pippofan]

12th place with Lazio with 11 points behind 4th.

That’s Giampaolo level

In his first two seasons at Lazio Sarri finished fifth and second. This season he was ninth when he left, most of it due to the fact that Immobile has been a shadow of his former self.

 

[Master Smurf]

How many times we need to see this play out?

Treat everything as an argument so that they could just obfuscate the point and “not lose” to ignore this reality. And then when reality proves them wrong it has to be second choice keeper, Pioli, or whoever else is the easiest mark.

Get rid of Pioli but this management literally looked down the team sheet and saw Giroud, Origi, and Lazovic at CF with Bennacer and Krunic as DMs and said “nah, Chuk and Musah are better flips”. Next manager will also have to deal with this as well as a superstar who can’t take long instructions. Looking forward to see who the next scape goat is

Why do you think my beloved Davide is remaining Capitano

 

[ymsv]

Leave it man

Folks can't see what having two younger quality forwards is like. Piolis had to work with ibra and giroud at the tail-end of their careers. One came from the mls lol..
And the other is on his way.

It's fuckin outrageous what he's had to work with.

He have Jovic and Okafor and last year he have CDK ( but never use him there ) which by the way , presently have an opportunity even to win the UL ( playing as CF ) with the mighty football colossus Atalanta under a coaching of Gasperini .

We are talking that we lack quality to even put Roma ( under De Rossi coaching ) under pressure and we need to sell all and buy a new squad , because our faultless coach went unlucky with the transferred players ( again ) , while in a mean time Atalanta humiliate Liverpool with Klopp .

Did we ever was able to do that with Pioli ? Even not Liverpool , but some other " big name " club ?

 

[ROSSONERI7]

So, funeral on Monday?

 

[pippofan]

Our players are spoiled?

They aren't spoiled, they're being told to do stupid things from a guy who left our best CM on the bench and held Theo back and let Calabria and Gabbia lead our attack.

They are told to cross, that's what we do. Chuk, Okafor, Leao, Pulisic are all crossing. It's an obvious instruction, they're all doing it.

The lack of organization and coherent plan is so obvious. Yesterday wasn't about heart, it was about comically stupid plans.

Spoiled in the sense that I don't see the hunger in them apart from Pioli's fvcked up tactics. Tonali for all his faults gave it all but today I don't see anyone give it all. They seem lackadaisacal and it shows with their awful passing, including Gabbia who pratically gave the assist on Roma's first goal.

 

[ymsv]

So, funeral on Monday?

According to our performance last games it must be a massacre before that .

 

[Master Smurf]

12th place with Lazio with 11 points behind 4th.

That’s Giampaolo level

And most important, Saelly styled on him - that kind of ruined his credibility among us highly discerning folk

 

[Cloren]

Cloren likes to take them to task but whomever writes their statements is top shelf.

They are always on point and written beautifully.

Yup fully agree. That statement was beautiful

 

[Cloren]

Oh no, Maignan conceded a throw in with a bad touch, that cost us the game. Give me a break.

Ok

 

[Samaldinho]

Spoiled in the sense that I don't see the hunger in them apart from Pioli's fvcked up tactics. Tonali for all his faults gave it all but today I don't see anyone give it all. They seem lackadaisacal and it shows with their awful passing, including Gabbia who pratically gave the assist on Roma's first goal.

I didn't see attitude problems, I saw confusion and disorganization.

De Rossi prepared his team and our team looked confused and given instructions that just made things worse.

 

[Alo88]

This is my Spring Festivus airing of grievances:
[...]

It saddens me to see you feeling this way towards our current team and management. I'm probably too young to understand all your sentiments, but I get your point.

I became a Milan fan in 2001 the moment I saw Shevchenko, blazing through opponents' defensive lines, for the first time.

Since then, the most bitter I've ever felt was Istanbul 2005. Initially, I seriously considered quitting being a Milan fan, or even a football fan altogether. Of course, that sentiment didn't last long, but that's just how bitter I felt in the moment.

The most hopeless I've ever felt, though, was probably during Pippo Inzaghi's tenure amidst our banter era. We ended that season 10th (!) after our only summer transfers were loaning Cerci, Destro, and Bocchetti, and acquiring Menez as a free agent. Back then, even after selling off Balotelli for 20M to Liverpool, we couldn't spend one single Euro.

Our team was as mediocre as it could get; it weakened by the years, and we lacked the funds to strengthen it. And then there was Pippo, the next ex-legend in line to get his legacy burned, downgraded to being Silvios pet, and Silvio himself of course who couldn't care less about the club since his political career was basically over. Nothing suggested that anything could change anytime soon - which is exactly what happened. That's been the low point for me as a fan.

The last couple of years haven't always been easy. But reliving the enthusiasm of the sleeping giant finally awakening and first getting back into the CL, then winning the least expected Scudetto in its history, and to then see the first CL Semifinal since 2007 has been a hell of a ride.

The last 12ish months weren't always as good as hoped, and losses like yesterday hurt me just as much as the next one. And I'm not looking forward to seeing Inter possibly celebrating their 2nd star against us in a derby of all games.

Nevertheless, that feeling of never-ending disappointment and depressing hopelessness of 2015 is luckily only a far cry today. I'm thrilled for the next couple of years; the same management that gets a lot of beating these days ensured we've positioned ourselves superbly well to collect the fruits seeded in all those past years, both in terms of sporting and financial stability. There are some crucial decisions to be taken in the next few weeks and months, sure, but I'm very excited to see our next moves.

I personally have rarely felt as passionate and proud to be a Milan fan like these years, probably only rivaled by the early 2000s when I first became one. 2007 already felt like the painful end of something big that dragged on for many years in hindsight, culminating in one last hurrah in 2012 that ended as swiftly as it happened. Everything after that has been pure agony, not the slightest comparable to our current setbacks.

But yeah, that's how I feel. Of course, not everyone will agree with me.

 

[Curupira]

Why do you think my beloved Davide is remaining Capitano

As outrageous as it was playing Calabria at DM ahead of our long list of capable registas ( genny), nobody wants to point out how much better he was than Bennacer at DM

 

[Alo88]

I didn't see attitude problems, I saw confusion and disorganization.

De Rossi prepared his team and our team looked confused and given instructions that just made things worse.

I think both of you can be right, tbh.

 

[Pigeon]

So, funeral on Monday?

we will be there