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When I saw the incident live, I said to myself "nah, not a PK because of the proximity to the ball", as I thought it was the classic "ball seeking the hand/arm", ie the attacker is trying to target the player's arm.

Then they showed the replay and you can clearly see that the defender raises/extends his arm, to exactly where the ball is trying to get passed him.
The defender probably had a tomoron moment and actually tried to stop it with his arm.

Clear PK any day of the week.

I'm still pissed off about this. This is the type of shit that decides most Serie A games.

Another thing, the reversal of the corner decision:
Let's see how many other games they will use this rule in this season.
I have feeling it will be forgotten for some teams.
I’d be more pissed about the potential redcard, which would change the course of the game indefinitely

But we won, Alhamdulillah

And:
Our 2 AM scores
It all starts from the right (chuk)
And Musah played greatly and clearly deserves another game.
Amorim’s job.
 
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I would keep ricci. He needs to learn Amourim way. We need a cb and cam. It must happen. If bart is moved to cb then we need another lwb. This team is very powerful. Maybe if chuck is this good morriea plays lwb. Why not. I love this attacking football. I don't care if we cant beat all the other big teams. As long as we can smash the teams we should beat and at least be competitive against the others we can win the league. Gerry is a smart guy. He just trusted the wrong people. At least he learnt and now we look like we will be back to where we belong. This team if it develops well this year can make a cl run next season if we get the right 2-3 players.
 
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I’d be more pissed about the potential redcard, which would change the course of the game indefinitely

But we won, Alhamdulillah

And:
Our 2 AM scores
It all starts from the right (chuk)
And Musah played greatly and clearly deserves another game.
Amorim’s job.
Didnt saw the game, but looks like Musah was the worst player on the pitch
 

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Rabiot behind a striker means there could be room for Jashari, Musah, and one of Ricci/Comotto.

The win/win solution i’ve never thought


This would be lacking quality wise as we would be moving our best midfielder by far forward. Modric is on his last legs now and Comotto may or may not be it. Ricci, Musah and Jashari are very mod so far.

We need to strengthen more
 
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Yeah we definitely need an upgrade for him Chuk can be a sub for us
Chuk is energetic but he is far too predictable I would be happy to sell him and bring in a better backup option who can play with both feet.

It really annoys me when a winger is incapable of competence with both feet. A player always has a stronger foot but should be competent with both. Regardless of their position.

Particularly wingers or wing backs otherwise there is no element of surprise or tactical advantage. They need to be able to keep the opponent guessing. Chuk does not do this he is like an open book.

People will cite Robben yes he was very left footed but he was far more talented than Chuk will ever be and was able to keep opponents guessing.

I’m glad we won the opening game but there are players who need to go and Chuk is one of them.
 
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we won with chuki on the field?

forum geniuses said we will miss Leao because of 'mUh rUnNinG'
 
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Loftus and Estupinian were worse for sure. Maybe even Jashari. Musah had a decent game.
I will say it again. Sell jhashari before it’s too late. He is just not good.

Might do better in other leagues but this is too physical for him.
 
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Your boy kush is doing live watch along now LOL
 
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Didnt saw the game, but looks like Musah was the worst player on the pitch
Bizarre rating. Estupiñán was quite poor, KDW was shaky and had a giveaway in the box that could have easily led to a goal against, RLC created nothing and we looked massively better when he was subbed off, Jashari was similar to Musah but didn't play the full game, so to see their ratings being this different makes no sense, Mike wasn't great but the goal he gave up was insanely difficult to stop so idk why he is so low...

Musah was far from the worst player and played quite well, he also had a really great turn that bipassed their midfield, allowed him to drive into space and pass to Rabiot, who then sent it in for the assist. Was a great player by all involved, but Musah got that attack going, and was just solid overall.
 
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Amorim might actually generate more Milan fans than any of our marketing activities.

Gladly i’ve never thought the same about Max or Padre or Fonseca. These Amorim hippies are crazy.
 
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Match ratings have always been weird and subjective, and I feel like the newer age ones might be worse in some ways, but yeah, the Google one is weird to me too, Gila was our best defender, I wonder if the computerized ones overvalue defender action in attack, because KDW did have a really nice sequence in Torino's box during a set piece (can't remember if it was a corner or free kick) because otherwise I don't get him being rated as highly as he was (fwiw, I think he is best off as a vice-Gila at RCB with a new player and Gabbia as the two in the middle

I also thought Ramos played well- he pressed like a demon, ran to open up space for teammates, and got on the ball a couple times where it was impressive he got there but had little space to do anything with it. I was very satisfied with how he played, and think he'll really shine when he has Rabiot and Pulisic behind him
 
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The next battle must be waged against all insiders

except for our own homegrown @ACM14061988 the entire lot of insiders are charlatans. not to be trusted. Grifters. Imposters of truth.

In this new era will eradicate these insiders one by one.

cold hard statistics will be posted for prediction accuracy.

their fraudulent tactics will also be exposed.

A highly decorated ambassador of the RnB forums will help lead this charge

more to come.

forza milan and long live the ancient order of the Confraternita del Rosso e Nero

 
 
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“How have they already mastered Amorim ball in just two weeks??”
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We need CBs, this is the stark reality of today's game.

Gila did very well, and he pressed high and snuffed out danger before it could really happen. I hope his injury is nothing serious, but it is worrying how our backline looked without him.

Pav looks uncomfortable, it's clear. De Winter doesn't look comfortable either, and even though RCB is more of his role, he still didn't inspire confidence in me when he took over that role after Gila went off injured.

I am happy with the result, I am largely happy with the performance--but there are things to be worried about. The CB unit is my primary concern, without Gila, we looked significantly worse. I am confused as to why we would let go of Tomori looking at our CB unit, even if we moved Bart to LCB and he became a star, we need better CBs.

Also, to get Bart to play as a CB will take time and require a learning curve, time we don't give young players.

The second concern? Our LWB spot. Pervis does not like that wingback spot, and while today he looked better than usual (he still wasn't great) and I feel like we ran risks, coin-flips went our way (like Musah not getting dispossessed in areas he usually does) and that's where you keep seeing these flashes of danger: bad spacing here, exposed pocket of space there, and defensive mistakes in dangerous spots... but it's early.

To give a more positive spin on this, I'll say this: the team swarmed and worked very hard to cover up their mistakes today, so whatever problems we have, structurally, I can imagine that Amorim sees them, knows about them, is willing to run those risks--it is getting players to run for each other that will allow this to work.

Pioli ran a 424 that started out wonderfully after winning the Scudetto, but he ran the players into the ground and could not sustain that style because he did not want to utilize his full squad. Amorim does not seem to suffer from limiting his options, so far, and Amorim seems to be keenly aware of that. He moved Sales to RWB after Chuk just ran himself into the ground (to their credit) and used his subs to great effect, for example.

The pessimistic take on this is that we are a few lost duels in risky situations from disaster.

My third concern is about chance creation. This system puts our attackers (Cisse and RLC today) and our RWB in Chuk in advantageous positions, we use switches-of-play to get Chuk in isolation, we utilize runs and spacing to allow Cisse to run through to attack, or rely on RLC's speed to counter--but we don't really create chances for Ramos. We ask Ramos to sacrifice a lot, actually, and he does it, but he's not the beneficiary of that, at least not today. I also think this was apparent against Man Utd. I can imagine Ramos could become frustrated and I hope he doesn't.

Of course, with a more mature player for Cisse (Pulisic or Leao) or with Rabiot from the start instead of RLC or Moreira instead of Chuk, maybe they look to involve Ramos, seek him out, maybe the spaces are different? Maybe in Europe he'll get more space than in Serie A? I just hope we don't squeeze him for his pressing, alone, a striker lives to score and I hope we create more chances for him.

It's early days, and I'm happy that Amorim is hitting the ground running, he needed that, we needed that--and it seems that the better Amorim does, the more attention we get, and if Man Utd does poorly, we will just get even more attention, which would be great.

I hope we can continue to fine tune against Venezia so we can be in the best shape for our first big challenge against Juve.
 
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Bizarre rating. Estupiñán was quite poor, KDW was shaky and had a giveaway in the box that could have easily led to a goal against, RLC created nothing and we looked massively better when he was subbed off, Jashari was similar to Musah but didn't play the full game, so to see their ratings being this different makes no sense, Mike wasn't great but the goal he gave up was insanely difficult to stop so idk why he is so low...

Musah was far from the worst player and played quite well, he also had a really great turn that bipassed their midfield, allowed him to drive into space and pass to Rabiot, who then sent it in for the assist. Was a great player by all involved, but Musah got that attack going, and was just solid overall.
KDW had two very poor Thiaw-like clearances in the first half that fell to Torino attackers in our box. I guess they don't count against him because nothing came from them.

I thought Jashari did some nice things and RLC started brightly but both tailed off and we were better with the more skilled replacements.

Unlike many, I am still a bit wary of Gila's defending but will put it down to not being at peak fitness yet. He is very aggressive and gambles, he wins many of his duels but can expose us when he misses. Saw it today and in preseason.
Not too worried though because we are pressuring the opposition and if we can maintain tempo then those occasions are reduced.
 
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I also think Bartesaghi should play LCB - cause he can be very good there and also cause we miss a ball-playing left footed CB and this is key for Amorim's system. I was certain Milan was trying to buy one all summer. I would have bought a left wingback instead.
But this should have been tested preseason.
What gives people the confidence that Bartesaghi would be good at LCB? Is it his terrible defensive marking?
 
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Sell Leao ASAP, or Leao will ruin our fluid play
I keep hearing this, but if we cannot sell Leao, I think he'd thrive in the role that Cisse played today. Cisse got to float out wide when he wanted and attack the defense when he had the chance.

I like the kid, I like what I've seen, but until he scored, he wasn't being particularly effective. I felt this way after the Man Utd game. Of course, a goal changes everything, and I'm so happy for the kid and I'm rooting for him. I hope Mancini ignores him and forgets that he's Italian.

He's a young player, and while I would love for him to explode like El Shaarawy (without the injuries and all that) and we find ourselves with our new star boy who becomes our Yamal, I don't want to put that pressure on him, not yet.

Our LAM is not really an AM, it's a winger. Amorim is doing the asymmetrical thing with us, where his RWB is more of a winger, his LWB is more cautious, his RAM is more of an AM, this is what he did at Sporting.

I'm curious to see how Pulisic would do. I think what Cisse does well is that he takes responsibility and he wants the ball, he wants to try things. Leao does that. Pulisic is less comfortable in that role, he is the 2 in a 1-2 punch. Of course, we haven't seen Pulisic under Amorim yet, I hope he thrives.

If we sell Leao, then we need to take that money and put it into a CB. If there is some left over, get another LWB, because unless we see some Pervis redemption arc (would love it) we are going to suffer with Pervis and Pav on the same side.
 
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I don't know who is more upset about Cisse being the new kid on the block - Leao, for being replaced by him, or leaf, seeing the racists loving his replacement, who is also black.
It's almost like you've been full of shit from the beginning and now can't decide how to spin a fake narrative 😱

One thing I can easily predict is the second Cisse has a bad game the usual suspects will descend on him and call him lazy and low IQ. As sure as the sun rising and setting
 
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The pressing, the running, the constant probing to play forward and attack. What a pleasure it was to watch a Milan like this again! Bravo, Amorim!!!!!!!!

For 75 minutes, we totally dominated. Even after we scored a goal, we pressed and seeked another (and got it right away). Yes....sadly, this is a foreign concept to me now (to score and want more).
We were not as sharp as we'd like to be in those 75 minutes, but that's expected in early days. The last 15 mins,.we struggled. Rhere is no other way of putting it. But, we did what we had to and got the 3 points.

Individually, many players were good. But i'll gove special praise to Chuk, Jashari and Musah. They were all really good...but it's not even about that....it's because you could see the improvement mentally in all 3 of them. The confidence. This new self-belief. It was really good to see, and I hope it continues.

As far as the others, there were mostly good signs. Cisse, obviously. But also Ramos and Gila.

Then, there is RLC. He didn't do anything horrific. But he also didn't do anything good. Not sure why he is still here.
 
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I keep hearing this, but if we cannot sell Leao, I think he'd thrive in the role that Cisse played today. Cisse got to float out wide when he wanted and attack the defense when he had the chance.
Thrive in what, exactly?
 
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