Week 17: AC Milan (0) vs AS Roma (1) - 18/12/2010

[ladro]

Meh. Slightly unlucky with horrendous performances from players everyone knows are finished/garbage. Mainly seafuck, antonini and boner.

Annnnnd were missing flamini and pato. Flamini mainly cuz ambrosini cant play more than 2 consecutive games without needing a wheelchair and pato.........well lets just say every team needs a player that can easily put balls behind the net. Ibrahimvic never was, is not now and never will be that player.

Onlc criticism of allegri is that the team has no personality whatsoever and when down literally does NOTHING but passes to ibra no matter where they are on the pitch. Well maybe we need pato on the pitch for something else to happen offense wise.

Since we all saw how finished seedorf is i have no doubt allegri will now rather start merkel and co.

BTW please demolish san siro and build a fucking modern stadium so people actually start to come and watch the games. So many empty seats vs roma? And ajax wasnt that much better. Should have been sold out.

 

[SOUL4]

Ha ha ha... sick joke... nice one.

Oh? You're serious?

Ridiculous

I suppose let's make Ronaldinho chairnan as well shall we?

u roll ur eyes quite a lot ,u'll roll them even more when we see allegri rolling them against tottenham (hope it wont happen), and the 1 mofo sayin we dont fire our couch when we're top of the table well fk u clueless mofo he didn got nothin to do with it it was Zlatan who got us a few extra points, mayb not fkn Rijkaard but someone else -nevermind

 

[alex1234]

welll im happy we lost just because of allegri ... as it will open his mind (MAYBE) and we still top of the table ... when pirlo was injured .. boa should have taken pirlo's place and dinho should have come on ... but allegri ... heh

 

[dhorasoo]

welll im happy we lost just because of allegri ... as it will open his mind (MAYBE) and we still top of the table ... when pirlo was injured .. boa should have taken pirlo's place and dinho should have come on ... but allegri ... heh

No worries bro, by January you can cheer for Gremio or Palmeiras.

 

[alex1234]

No worries bro, by January you can cheer for Barcelona or the european team that dinho will be in or maybe still milan.

corrected

 

[KujaIX]

I think Antonini is playing worse than last year because last year the formation was a lot more fluid and all he had to do was run, now it's a lot more tactical and organized and his defensive skills are put to the test and he fails.

Last year he could attack and Ambro would cover, now he can attack and no-one covers as every player is a vital cog in the machine.

And it's good that the players noted how bad Seedorf was, thanks for everything Clarence, you were and are a legend, just i don't want you starting or being first choice sub again. Thank you.

 

[Vecchio Ultra]

STUPID STUPID STUPID LOSS yesterday, I'm still ANGRY for at least TWO WEEKS. Ibra beats the small teams but we always fuck up vs the big ones, I mean we win vs Bologna 0-3 then we lose 0-1 to Merda Roma, we win vs Intermerda the interregional champions and then we lose 1-2 to Juve Ladri, WTF if Cassano comes we should throw Seedorf in the river Po or something, in a brick of concrete, I never want to see him in the Milan jersey again, enough is enough

 

[theduck7]

The game was lost as soon as we lost Pirlo but it's inexcuseable to bring on Ronaldinho 5 mins from time when we are chasing a game, I know Allegri is trying to freeze him out but surely the result is more important?

 

[deepa_316]

Hard one to take, another undeserved loss. Looks like we choke vs big teams minus inter altho we only won that game with a pen. We better make sure we continue to win vs smaller teams!

And Why the fuck is dinho bein frozen out it should be fuckin clarence!

2 week wait now let's hope cassano arrives plus others LB pref

 

[DugiNesta]

Ibra had a bad game yesterday.
Wish we had Pato

 

[Rob]

I hope yesterdays lost showed how we are in need of a player like Cassano. Seedorf was horrendous. I'm no Ronaldinho fanboy but one thing is for sure, he made Antonini look good last year because they always exchanged passes on the left side. Abate keeps improving. Ambrosini and Gattuso cannot play together anymore, unfortunately Flamini was injured.

Last year with Leonardo we weren't able to get to first place and surpass Inter, now this year were first and are losing in the big games. I hope Cassano arrives, he can be a much needed creative boost.

 

[AC4eva]

On a far more optimistic note, let's take comfort in the fact that we have a 3 point lead going into the winter break.

Even better than that, Chievo managed to snatch a draw with Juve today which means we keep a significant 4 point lead over them. I'm less concerned about Lazio and Napoli as I do not believe either of them will be in contention come the end of the season.

We can lick our wounds and hopefully come back in 2011 even stronger. IF we can recover TS and Pato and keep them healthy(!) for the rest of the season this could be far more important that any player we may or may not sign in January.

A long way to go until May but I have faith in this team!

 

[Rob]

On a far more optimistic note, let's take comfort in the fact that we have a 3 point lead going into the winter break.

Even better than that, Chieva managed to snatch a draw with Juve today which means we keep a significant 4 point lead over them. I'm less concerned about Lazio and Napoli as I do not believe either of them will be in contention come the end of the season.

We can lick our wounds and hopefully come back in 2011 even stronger. IF we can recover TS and Pato and keep them healthy(!) for the rest of the season this could be far more important that any player we may or may not sign in January.

A long way to go until May but I have faith in this team!

Napoli are intense with those last minute goals. . .

 

[Az.]

Napoli are intense with those last minute goals. . .

Intense is not the word i would use,more like annoying .

 

[Marco Gullit]

On a far more optimistic note, let's take comfort in the fact that we have a 3 point lead going into the winter break.

Even better than that, Chieva managed to snatch a draw with Juve today which means we keep a significant 4 point lead over them. I'm less concerned about Lazio and Napoli as I do not believe either of them will be in contention come the end of the season.

We can lick our wounds and hopefully come back in 2011 even stronger. IF we can recover TS and Pato and keep them healthy(!) for the rest of the season this could be far more important that any player we may or may not sign in January.

A long way to go until May but I have faith in this team!

Being even more optimistic, we have a couple of weeks off, time to get some players back from injury, rest a couple that really need a rest, plus make real efforts to bring in a couple of new players. A Milan in the New Year with Pato, Silva, Pirlo and Flams back and fit playing alongside a rested Ibra, Binho, Gatt Ambro and Nesta, coupled with the addition off some players in some much needed area's will be amazing

Bring it on I say, we all know Dorf is pretty much done, the jury seams to be out on Dinho, but neither are what we currently need to push on and win Serie A. So lets get behind Al and his team and enjoy the ride, I'm sure there are still some twists and turns to be had

 

[whatsanewbie]

pirslo, followed by seedorf {also slow}.... dinho should have been inserted as AM, kpb drops to DM.... Allegri again out played in a big match. Roma studied Milan's attack and nullified it easily. Allegri had no answer, giving dinho 5 minutes when it was clear at 65-70 that milan were clearly being out played. Dinho deserves better, ibra was clearly tired. Allegri must be able to read the body language of players better, it was ridiculous.

Another embarrassing loss at home, in a big match. allegri and the team must learn their lessons. Cassano means nothing.... forza milan!

 

[Marco Gullit]

pirslo, followed by seedorf {also slow}.... dinho should have been inserted as AM, kpb drops to DM.... Allegri again out played in a big match. Roma studied Milan's attack and nullified it easily. Allegri had no answer, giving dinho 5 minutes when it was clear at 65-70 that milan were clearly being out played. Dinho deserves better, ibra was clearly tired. Allegri must be able to read the body language of players better, it was ridiculous.

Another embarrassing loss at home, in a big match. allegri and the team must learn their lessons. Cassano means nothing.... forza milan!

Was that before or after Binho and Ibra missed several chances?

Nullification would have been tactics to stop us play, not park the bus and hope. Nullification would have been their keepermaking great saves or defenders making last minute tackles, or even their defence standing firm and snuffing out attacks. Our attackers should have scored on more than one occasion... Thats not nullification, thats bad finishing when it mattered.

Yes an crap result, not sure its embarrasing to lose a match when you've dominated for most of it, embarrassing is losing to a 9 man Inter!

I agree with Forza Milan though...

 

[Shiby]

I hate that we lost. And against Roma

But if there ever is a good time to lose then this is it. Just before the break so players can relax and focus in peace on the season ahead

We are going in to the break leading the table and not only that we have been by far the most dominant team in Seria A.

A lot of reasons to be optimistic!

Milan to the Max!

 

[Rob]

Intense is not the word i would use,more like annoying .

Cavani's goal today was a beauty; annoying way of winning I'll agree

 

[Dwa Milan]

the odd thing is we lost two big games at home, but won against Inter "away"..
The possitive thing probably the fact that we didn't actually get outplayed in those defeats and should've even won the game but we pretty much fucked it up ourselves..
In big games we need to stay focus for 90 minutes, I think that's what the Intensity that Allegri's saying, keeping them harmless must be done for the whole 90.. but in football especially big games when you keep on wasting your chances, you're eventually get punished..

 

[gaizka22]

This is the game between the old master and the emerging pupil and it's clear that Ranieri edged this one over Allegri. Roma studied our gameplan and they know that we will try to set up Ibra with through pass or long pass (like Pirlo did vs Bologna). They defended unisonly and very very discipline in their line. I've never seen Milan caught off-sides so many times in one game, even with Inzaghi on the pitch.

Pirlo out for Seedorf really really hurt our offense, no creativity whatsoever. And what's worse, we stick with our game plan of giving through pass to Ibra. And the only time he was clear (from a good lob pass from Gattuso, I didn't know he can do that), he bungled the chance.

I would like to comment on Adriano and his impact. On the first half, I was actually laughing whenever he tried to create something on his own as his passes are usually failed and his effort to dribble was useless. But come second half, he seemed to content on holding on to the ball, shielding it with his big body and draw fouls after fouls (from Gattuso and Ambrosini mainly). They won so many freekicks from him and managed to milked the clock even more when we needed the equalizer. He knew he can't give (probably will no longer be able) to do his give his usual contribution so he did the only thing he can and greatly contributed to their win. Did u see how Ranieri gave him a big hug when he was substituted?

As for Ronaldinho, what can he possibly do with 5 minutes remaining? His time is truly over here. Allegri IMO is at fault for not bringing him sooner but looking at the way Roma's backline played and the number of offsides that we got, I don't think he can do much since he will rely on long passes. Forget dribbling his way into the box, with the way Burdisso and Mexes played, it's not gonna happen.

As for the bad comments about Boriello. To me that's unfair. This is - IMO - the one player that epitomizes unfair treatment from Milan. How many years did he spend on loan while as Milan player? Milan threw him around to different clubs and when he was playing good in Genoa we took him in again. He gave his best performance last season and left again because we had Ibra. What did he do wrong to Milan? He was just being a professional and did his job.

What I'm also worried is our tittle credentials. We seemed to focus too much on Inter and how far up we are in terms of points. It's always "We have .... points than Inter". But we lost points vs other credible tittle contenders. Lazio, Juve now Roma. That's 1 point out of possible 9 from our fiercest rivals. For comparison, in 03/04 vs Inter, Roma, Juve and Lazio we only lost 2 points (home draw vs Juve). Okay, we might rack up max points from the likes of Brescia and Bologna but those lost points vs Lazio, Juve and Roma would only pointed out to our lack of 'big game mentality'. We might be top of the table but deep down we know we got the points from the small teams and not from the big teams when it really mattters.

Time for self questioning.

 

[theduck7]

Napoli are starting to scare me with those last minute goals, league winners do things like that, they don't play well and get results and we play well and don't get results-worrying trend if it continues!!

 

[Australiano1980]

No way abate is player for Milan..

Pandev put him on the pocket on the derby.. making him getting a red card.. and against Roma the guy tried to make the cut inside the keeper's box sending the ball to the penalty mark.. what is that? 4th division game(player)??

Is just a matter of time.. Antonini is out of the 11 starters.. the next one is Abate for sure.

And the talk.. "the guy still have to grow".. please.. Sorensen of juve is already better than Abate and he still have to grow.

 

[theduck7]

No way abate is player for Milan..

Pandev put him on the pocket on the derby.. making him getting a red card.. and against Roma the guy tried to make the cut inside the keeper's box sending the ball to the penalty mark.. what is that? 4th division game(player)??

Is just a matter of time.. Antonini is out of the 11 starters.. the next one is Abate for sure.

And the talk.. "the guy still have to grow".. please.. Sorensen of juve is already better than Abate and he still have to grow.

In Abate's defense he started out as a winger and it's only natural it will take him time to adjust to defending. I was his biggest critic I thought he was talentless at the beginning of the season but he is definately growing on me and has had a few excellent displays this year

 

[ToonInvader]

No way abate is player for Milan..

Pandev put him on the pocket on the derby.. making him getting a red card.. and against Roma the guy tried to make the cut inside the keeper's box sending the ball to the penalty mark.. what is that? 4th division game(player)??

Is just a matter of time.. Antonini is out of the 11 starters.. the next one is Abate for sure.

And the talk.. "the guy still have to grow".. please.. Sorensen of juve is already better than Abate and he still have to grow.

moutain of non-sense here.

Sorensen have never played against CR7. abate did and did fucking well, so there's must be space for improvement in Ignazio.

The only thing he has to imrove is his tactical awareness ( the goal from roma). But he has all the qualitities ; speed, strong, agressive.

I am not sure sorensen will be able one day to run as fast as abate...

 

[Australiano1980]

moutain of non-sense here.

Sorensen have never played against CR7. abate did and did fucking well, so there's must be space for improvement in Ignazio.

The only thing he has to imrove is his tactical awareness ( the goal from roma). But he has all the qualitities ; speed, strong, agressive.

I am not sure sorensen will be able one day to run as fast as abate...

I already read this 'mountain of non-sense' about Antonini too.

Players of Sevilha played yesterday against CR7 too.. and the talk about improvement..

If the guy wanna play RB.. atleast he should know how to defende.. the basics.. dont cut to the middle of the box.. or be like flamini, just say, "i dont wanna play as FB!"

 

[Ragazza]

i was very disappointed in this result for the team...especially since they played rather well the first half

the coach didn't make changes until it was too late...i still don't understand why he does that!!

 

[Trohanel]

abbiati - 5.5 - had nothing to do, probably should have come out on that cross, but whatever, nothing too bad but nothing too great
abate - 7 - definitely has what it takes to start at a top class club, great work, had 1-2 minor mess-ups, but saved us many times, worked tirelessly, and was consistently awesome
nesta - 8 - fantastic. could possibly have done a little more on the goal, but not that much
boner - 5 - up until the goal he was actually quite good, but he let that cross go right between his legs and then the goal happened...
antonini - 5 - pretty solid for the entire game to be honest and played quite well but made one crucial mistake on menez and that ended up costing us the game... if that wouldn't have been a goal he would have received a 6 rating, but fact is.. it was a goal and thus, 5. funny little tidbit, i said to my pops who is a roma fan before the game that to win, roma needed to run menez at antonini and bonera... the one time they did that they scored....
ambro - 6 - good stuff, nothing awful, worked real hard
gattuso - 7 - truly a great game and nobody should knock him, he worked his ass off especially bc boateng pushed up sooooo far and left the 3 mids with too much work
pirlo - n/a - he was looking soooooo good until the injury, such a disappointment he got hurt bc we looked sweet and pirlo was on fire, once he went off, our team lost faith, that was the turning point.. come back soon pirlo, we desperately need this guy, fuck off haters, now you see what happens w/o pirlo when everybody else isn't on top form
seedorf - 4.5 - dude is so done.... not good at all today, still, I would have like allegri to put him as AM today and boa back at midfield, would have done wonders.
boateng - 5.5 - worked real hard, but little product, too fancy at times, poor passes at others, some good stuff here and there, but awful positioning and was playing as a forward and not as an AM and that killed our midfield and tired them out... not a good game, and it will be nice once we get cassano to put boa back into midfield... now you guys see he is not an AM.. that shit works against the minnows at brescia but not v. roma
robinho - 6 - another good shift from binho, great work today, always providing movement, just no end product
ibra - 5 - really a bad game, the worst I've seen... somehow he seemed to lack confidence... could this be the first of the big game choking??? let's hope he has kicked that habit bc there will be many more high pressure games like when we meet Juve (the other scud contenders) for the second time


dinho - n/a - sorry allegri, i know you're trying to get rid of the guy and thats fine, i agree to bring cassano in for dinho, but really... winning is the most important and we should have played him today once pirlo got injured and moved boa back to midfield... thanks for everything you did last year dinho and good luck wherever you go!

allegri - 5.5 - not awful today, and i LOVED the starting lineup, but really, after pirlo's injury he just made bad decisions and it showed as we sucked the second pirlo went off... seedorf should have never came on and dinho should have played AM with boa moving back to mid.. also, if he really was trying to not play dinho and wanted to play seedorf, than at least play him as an AM and push boa back into midfield.. our shape was awful and that was 100% due to boatengs shitty AM positioning which is a lot of the blame on allegri for not telling boa where to stand... in the end though, he's been a great coach and has got this team going strong, a very minor blip today, but TBH, we had our chances.. we bury one of those, we win i guarantee, so you fags calling for his head are really really shallow or dumb, or probably both


overall - LOVED how we started, it looked so fucking good with pirlo playing like he should in a nice role, but right after his injury it went to shit. bad tactical choice from all when pirlo got injured and it cost us the game. also, ibra choked hard in great positions today which sucked... bottom line, I hope cassano can bring that magic touch we needed in tight games like this one if he comes, but today we opened up the scudetto to everybody, especially Juve... what a bad result... also, a lot of teams probably figured out how to stop our attack so it will be tough for us from here on out... the WORST way to go into the break... well, Merry X-mas boys, and here's hoping that cassano comes and becomes our missing link at AM b/c we reaaaaally need one... boa is NOT an AM, and I hope all you tards who think he is watched today's game and saw his shit positioning against a good team. play boa at CM and you got a star.



sidenote if anybody was going to score today, i'm glad borriello did it and not the other fags on roma. props borri, wasn't a pretty goal, and was definitely just a deflection, but you worked hard and were in the right place at the right time... something our strikers were not.

respect

 

[BrasilianMilan]

Milan lost to Roma due to the fact that Seedorf filled in for Pirlo, and cuz we were missing some injured players. If we had Zambro instead of slow Antonini, then Menez wouldn't have burned Antonini like that. Flamini could've done a better job in the midfield than Seedorf if we had him. Also, Ibra should've scored when he had the greatest chances provided to him. Dinho impressed me with the attempt on goal - sadly, he didn't score but oh well, it's alright. I'm not blaming Dinho, but we need our players who were injured. Shame they weren't there

 

[joyrider]

this is the game between the old master and the emerging pupil and it's clear that ranieri edged this one over allegri. Roma studied our gameplan and they know that we will try to set up ibra with through pass or long pass (like pirlo did vs bologna). They defended unisonly and very very discipline in their line. I've never seen milan caught off-sides so many times in one game, even with inzaghi on the pitch.

Pirlo out for seedorf really really hurt our offense, no creativity whatsoever. And what's worse, we stick with our game plan of giving through pass to ibra. And the only time he was clear (from a good lob pass from gattuso, i didn't know he can do that), he bungled the chance.

I would like to comment on adriano and his impact. On the first half, i was actually laughing whenever he tried to create something on his own as his passes are usually failed and his effort to dribble was useless. But come second half, he seemed to content on holding on to the ball, shielding it with his big body and draw fouls after fouls (from gattuso and ambrosini mainly). They won so many freekicks from him and managed to milked the clock even more when we needed the equalizer. He knew he can't give (probably will no longer be able) to do his give his usual contribution so he did the only thing he can and greatly contributed to their win. Did u see how ranieri gave him a big hug when he was substituted?

As for ronaldinho, what can he possibly do with 5 minutes remaining? His time is truly over here. Allegri imo is at fault for not bringing him sooner but looking at the way roma's backline played and the number of offsides that we got, i don't think he can do much since he will rely on long passes. Forget dribbling his way into the box, with the way burdisso and mexes played, it's not gonna happen.

As for the bad comments about boriello. To me that's unfair. This is - imo - the one player that epitomizes unfair treatment from milan. How many years did he spend on loan while as milan player? Milan threw him around to different clubs and when he was playing good in genoa we took him in again. He gave his best performance last season and left again because we had ibra. What did he do wrong to milan? He was just being a professional and did his job.

What i'm also worried is our tittle credentials. We seemed to focus too much on inter and how far up we are in terms of points. It's always "we have .... Points than inter". But we lost points vs other credible tittle contenders. Lazio, juve now roma. That's 1 point out of possible 9 from our fiercest rivals. For comparison, in 03/04 vs inter, roma, juve and lazio we only lost 2 points (home draw vs juve). Okay, we might rack up max points from the likes of brescia and bologna but those lost points vs lazio, juve and roma would only pointed out to our lack of 'big game mentality'. We might be top of the table but deep down we know we got the points from the small teams and not from the big teams when it really mattters.

Time for self questioning.

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