Robinho Thread

[Senatore_M84]

Senatore, I've been wanting to make a post about the Brazilian influence for a while. I think that is one thing about buying Robinho that cannot be discounted. Brazil has more young talent than any other nation (they pretty much always do), so we should always be marketing the Milan product to young Brazilians... I know people get a little sick of our "Brazilian fetish," but I absolutely LOVE the idea of young Brazilians growing up and dreaming of playing for AC Milan...

It's true Milan got great connectiosn to Brazil. I just don't want to throw away the other areas milan has had great connections. The dutch contingent. The slavic players etc. etc. I mean I see many posters here from say croatia who say 'i started following milan cause of boban' for ex.

Eitherway it's more than that.... When it really comes down to it, milan, and by milan i mean berlusconi, galliani and there administration know how to make a star. You can say 'they didn't make shit' but it's false. think of all star players at other clubs. Cantona is arguably best french striker, still don't have french all dreaming about man utd the way you hear brazilians with milan. Inter has had a HOST of stars over the years and on and on.

Beyond that, Milan always has a record of treating it's players well with a huge (expensive) staff waiting at players needs. 5 star accommodations you don't see at all other top clubs, and many other fringe things. Stuff we may not see on the outside, but stuff i guarentee players talk about. I mean milan pay great wages but not more than any other perennial UCL club. It's the other things they do that keep the players preferring milan.


What i'm saying is milan knows how to romanticize itself. It's something we all fall for. I'm aware of it, but it doesn't bug me. The fact Milan always strives to play good football. They always try to play as a team etc. It's an imagine BERLUSCONI created with his original team. Galliani deserves all the credit for keeping the ideals of it but there is a 'code' to milan. It's why you hear Galliani say "Mourinho is a great coach, but he will never coach at milan"

 

[Milan10]

I absolutely agree with everything you said. I'm an American, so it's hard to have a real intimate connection with Milan, but I've honestly never felt the way I feel about Milan with any other team. The club has, or at least it seems to have, such a unique atmosphere. The players are pampered with multi-million locker rooms, great contracts, unmatched loyalty, and even a world class training ground... Not to mention the fact that they get to live in one of the world's nicest cities. All of that combined with everything else you mentioned makes Milan very attractive to professional footballers.

I'm not saying we should focus solely on Brazil, though. I agree 100%, we should be marketing the club to kids in Holland, eastern Europe (Dzeko anyone?), Brazil, Africa, and all over South America. Instead of playing friendlies in England/America, I'm just saying that I'd love to see us play a friendly tournament in Brazil for example... It would be great promotion not only with aspiring players but in a rapidly growing nation (economically and population wise).

 

[Deleted member 24225]

great posts Senatore & Milan10 , I totally agree with that

Milan is something special, I've also never had such a love for a team, only for Milan. This whole environment there is really different to other clubs and that's why players often prefer to come here instead of moving to another big club. We didn't win any trophy last season, but still we got Zlatan & Binho, they know we are a great team with a rich history and we will be back on the winning road, so they preferred to join us instead of some other team.
Zlatan also said yesterday that if Milan wants you, you can't say no.
That is great and I'm proud of this team and also our family atmoshpere is great, though it may is bad sometimes with stupid contract extensions, but in the end it's still better to have such an environment and not be like Inter, Real, etc.

Robinho surely liked the fact that we have a good Brazilian tradition in our team, that made it easier for him to say yes to Milan. We also now have other great Brazilians here, who are good friends to him, so that surely influenced his decision to join us. I like to have those great players from Brazil, we're really popular in their country, mostly because of us having their great players, so people there know us and are also fans of Milan. We are an Italian club, but you also need to have attention in other countries and with Brazil for example we have a good connection because of all those players we had and still have from their country. I like to see someone like Pato growing up here and getting known in the world of football because of Milan, I not only want to see that now, but forever.

 

[Jasper]

i don't think he can outperform pato or ronaldinho. The idea of a 4-2-4 is just lol, and so he will be benched most of the time. And that was my worry from the day one, that he can cause trouble again if not happy in being a supersub or rotated. We have a lot of talent but this time a lot of egos too.

+1

 

[AC_Wesley]

Can someone find a pic of him wearing those headphines?

 

[Sven]

I'm not saying we should focus solely on Brazil, though. I agree 100%, we should be marketing the club to kids in Holland, eastern Europe (Dzeko anyone?), Brazil, Africa, and all over South America. Instead of playing friendlies in England/America, I'm just saying that I'd love to see us play a friendly tournament in Brazil for example... It would be great promotion not only with aspiring players but in a rapidly growing nation (economically and population wise).

I would be the first to be happy with Milan coming to Brazil, but I think this kind of decisions is based on the profit Milan made going to a game. When Milan play some match in USA, the event is organized and commercialized by some third part, a company or TV channel, who can made profit with the event. For Milan to organize a tournament in Brazil, it would not be profitable, but would cost a lot. If someone in Brazil can organize some kind of event here - I can't even remember some big European club coming to Brazil - I'm sure Milan would be the first European choice - and maybe the WC in 2014 can help on that.

Also, Brazilian market in football has a fundamental difference with USA - in Brazil there is a "culture of clubs", almost every brazilian support a local club since childhood. European clubs are the second or third choice for money spending on shirts and merchandise, and the support for European clubs is something very new here. Still, I think the market here is growing, altough the greatest part is already dominated by local clubs. So, altough a growing market, there's not that space for Milan to gain support here. I would say that focus on places where the local clubs are weaker, like asia or something would be brain smarter from a comercial point of view.

Maybe you got a point when you say that having a core of Brazilians can facilitate the influx of Brazilian players, but I think that 99% of a transfer depends on Milan prestige and money. When Milan come to Brazil to buy a player and they throw the money the club is asking - the player will go. A core of brazilians is just a minor detail I think.

 

[diegoyya]

Senatore, I've been wanting to make a post about the Brazilian influence for a while. I think that is one thing about buying Robinho that cannot be discounted. Brazil has more young talent than any other nation (they pretty much always do), so we should always be marketing the Milan product to young Brazilians... I know people get a little sick of our "Brazilian fetish," but I absolutely LOVE the idea of young Brazilians growing up and dreaming of playing for AC Milan...

Currently, we have Brazil's most famous player, their most promising attacker, their most promising defender (other than Luiz I suppose), and now we have added Robinho to the mix. This, after having Kaka at his very peak... I think we should always be looking to Brazil for talent as their players are typically much cheaper than Italian talents for example. No one in Italy has Thiago Silva's potential right now, but could you imagine how much we would have had to pay if he were Italian? Italians were valuing Santacroce at 15m-20m for Christ's sake...

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that I want Milan to be thought of at the elite European club for Brazilians. I imagine most young Brazilians think of Barcelona, Madrid, and Milan before any other club in Europe, and I want it to stay that way... I'd even love to see Milan play a few friendlies in Brazil after we conquer Italy this season

Having said that, I love the way Milan is trying to buy as much young Italian talent as we can. Seeing someone like Fossati grow up and start in the midfield would be amazing (I think he has enough talent to do so).. `

+5 Couldn't agree more.

If young cheap Brazilians with tons of creativity dream of playing with Milan, we will have virtually unlimited supply of magic. (At a low price) This management ideas are what makes the difference between small and big teams. Plus, if we can see a pato or a kaka every 2 or 3 years, (a ronaldinho or robinho, as the trend continues...) I will be happy for life.

 

[joyrider]

and back to binho?

 

[fredrik9]

Just realized that his bling watch is bigger than the Milan logo.

 

[ww]

If you're worried about Robinho partying, send a letter do Berlusconi suggesting the same as Atlético Mineiro is doing.

The supporters of Atético Mineiro released a telephone number to receive calls whenever someone finds a player of this team partying.

Then the press asked to Atlético Mineiro's president what does he think about it and he said that it's good because Atlético Mineiro should be taken serious by the players and wouldn't be bad if those party players got kicked in their asses.

 

[diavoli7]

i don't think we're going to have a problem with robinho. for one, it's quite difference being left on the bench at city and another at milan, also the same story for getting motivated, and he has pato and silva to help him out too. besides, i thought he said that since he's gotten married he's calmed down with the partying and stuff.

anyway he should get more than enough playing time, i'm sure he'll play a half or at least 30 minutes today if we are leading, maybe even if we aren't, allegri will want to rest robinho or pato for the auxerre match

 

[necromancer]

This guy's purchase has been one of my biggest 'disconnect' moments in all my years of supporting Milan. Robinho stands for many things I dislike in football. Absolute over-ratedness, terrible attitude and sucky sucky team-play.

Really hoping he would just fade away and not cause any harm to the effects of an otherwise great transfer season.

 

[KujaIX]

He was good today. Cut him some slack, one of the only players who impressed me, along with Pato who should have had 2 goals.

 

[Mrk]

He was good, tracked back, helped the midfielders and did 10000000x more than Dinho did all game.

 

[KujaIX]

Thank you. I see him being a great success. He could replace Dinho with ease, and although it pains me to say that. After that performance i am disapointed in him.

 

[Sasha]

Haha thanks man

 

[Deleted member 24225]

He really tried much after he came on and often did track back.
Actually Binho was better than Ronnie today, he worked much more and he can replace him.

 

[Esoteric]

He should start next Serie A game while we play Ronaldinho in CL. It will do good for his confidence and allow him to adjust. Plus he works a lot just like I expected.

 

[Senatore_M84]

truthfully, the way robinho plays and works on field, i can't see him staying on bench long. Pato is a for sure starter, so that means one of ronaldinho or ibra will see bench.

 

[Mrk]

Dinho hopefully, then he might learn that he'll have to up his work rate.

 

[shogun]

i'd give him the starting position over dinho.

if you are gonna play for one of the best clubs in the world, it should be expected that you can last for more then 30 minutes and not only walk around like an idiot at times.


ronaldinho with motivation = 11 out of 10
ronaldinho without motivation = 2.5 out of 10

robinho is in my mind much more fit, great ball control and can last for 90 minutes.

 

[necromancer]

Some of u really think he's gonna ever be a starter for a top team.. All of his seasons in Europe have been testaments to his uselessness in various ways. Lack of a footballing brain, lack of discipline, lack of passion..

 

[Senatore_M84]

Some of u really think he's gonna ever be a starter for a top team.. All of his seasons in Europe have been testaments to his uselessness in various ways. Lack of a footballing brain, lack of discipline, lack of passion..

indeed. lack of passion, brain and disapline. only the 2 biggest assholes ever made him there focal player (dunga + capello) when they had many other options

he may be temperamental but lazy he is not.


brain smarter n00000b

 

[ww]

indeed. lack of passion, brain and disapline. only the 2 biggest assholes ever made him there focal player (dunga + capello) when they had many other options

he may be temperamental but lazy he is not.


brain smarter n00000b

Capello and Dunga took the best of Robinho but it doesn't mean that they made the right choice by using him as a lethal player. Also, none of them had much success with Robinho.

Winning La Liga having Robinho on the team isn't a big deal since there are only two team on this race. And I don't know if Capello really wanted Robinho on the team or just used him because there the club didn't want to sell him and buy another player for his place.

Dunga won Copa América against that shit Argentina in which the defense was more opened than old whore's vagina. Against Uruguay, that had a solid defense, Robinho was easily neutralized and Baptista was the one who decided the game.

Yeah, Robinho did great against Italy on the Confederations Cup. It was a trailler of what we would see on the World Cup against Slovakia.

Robinho doesn't have any passion. He's capable of enjoyining the passion of his team when the team has it. Otherwise, he'll be the first one to be hide in the pitch.

I'm expecting that Robinho does good against small teams on the Calcio. Anything more than that will really surprise me.

 

[Baresiuno]

He should start next Serie A game while we play Ronaldinho in CL. It will do good for his confidence and allow him to adjust. Plus he works a lot just like I expected.

Robinho should definitely start one of the 2 next matches. We need to rotate, rest players, keep them motivated, prepare squad for long season ++

 

[milan1st]

He is what Ronaldinho isnt.

Ronaldinho is what Robinho isnt.




His dribbling, speed is what ronaldinho lacks since coming from Barcelona.

 

[dev1L]

 

[necromancer]

indeed. lack of passion, brain and disapline. only the 2 biggest assholes ever made him there focal player (dunga + capello) when they had many other options

he may be temperamental but lazy he is not.


brain smarter n00000b

And he failed in both instances. To top it, most things Capello has done in the past few years + most things Dunga has ever done as a coach have been utter stupidities.

You've clearly not watched enough games of Robinho with Madrid nor with City, coz you do normally sound intelligent enough to differentiate between hits and flops It would be hard to find more frustrating players who have played for top clubs recently. Maybe Quaresma.

So stop youtube trolling, troll.

 

[joyrider]

they did somesuper nice things,
but it wasn't enough

 

[Leptiran]

i see him runing back in defense couple of times...but he and ibrahimovic look like they playing first time in big team...scared