Official: Massimiliano Allegri Thread

[Ash]

Someone do this club a favour and shoot Seedorf

Biggest leech if I have ever seen one

 

[crazy4milan]

Bad result happens...media comes up with the fights to make things more dramatic...fights that have probably happened in other moments with other players. What's the news?

 

[Docademo]

what's it called? aura reading ability?

Funny guys you two,really

 

[N3d0]

A new coach won't solve the problems we're facing. I actually think it's a big gamble to fire Allegri after the season ends. I hope Berlusconi will give him one more chance, and hopefully a better squad.

+1 you can have Don Fabio + Mou and they won't be able to deliver with the squad we have.

 

[Danilo JBG]

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According to Corriere Della Sera, Allegri and Seedorf had a big fight after the game, Seedorf wasn't happy at all with the sub 1/2

Allegri would've said: "Who doesn't believes in the comeback will be subbed" and then the fight started.. 2/2

What Leo made for being finally kicked, is happening now again: Not having the players' support, specially, from the senators...

Seedorf can complain as much as he wants, and as much as he's one of my favorite players, I'm dying to see him out as soon as possible. It was pretty much evident that Milan started to play A LOT better when Cassano took his place during the match. And we're talking about a player who had just returned from a serious health issue that kept him out of the pitch for several months.

If Allegri loses the supports from our senior players, then I'd say goodbye to the oldies. They're all nearly out of contract anyway. We need to move on from the last generation once and for all. Berlusconi supported Sacchi when he had maybe even less name than Allegri currently has, and he could be giving up players such as Van Basten and Gullit, both near their prime. I think it's pretty easy to give up a couple of old players that are mostly way past their prime and way below top club standards.

 

[Danilo JBG]

And as much as I think Allegri managed to overachieve at some points considering our injuries, I wouldn't turn my back on a coach change given some good circumstances. I really doubt we could find a coach who would do a better job than him with our current squad or a potential squad for next season which may be even worse. But if some new manager, whoever he is, would arrive with the management's support providing quality players, then I'd be happy.

However, if Milan are willing to give whichever coach a good squad, even Allegri, the I'd stay with Max. I think he deserves to prove himself with truly good players, especially in midfield.

 

[joyrider]

Seedorf can complain as much as he wants, and as much as he's one of my favorite players, I'm dying to see him out as soon as possible. It was pretty much evident that Milan started to play A LOT better when Cassano took his place during the match. And we're talking about a player who had just returned from a serious health issue that kept him out of the pitch for several months.

If Allegri loses the supports from our senior players, then I'd say goodbye to the oldies. They're all nearly out of contract anyway. We need to move on from the last generation once and for all. Berlusconi supported Sacchi when he had maybe even less name than Allegri currently has, and he could be giving up players such as Van Basten and Gullit, both near their prime. I think it's pretty easy to give up a couple of old players that are mostly way past their prime and way below top club standards.

it's not a couple of old players, it's a lot

instead of sacking the coach, we should kick out the senatores this time

FORZA ALLEGRI

Leo also had a good time

 

[Docademo]

Also, I never said Ac Milan should sack Allegri...Im just saying that this man 100% doesnt have enough qualities to lead the squad of such high prestige and prominence. I can see we have here some unrealistic funny members-would def like to see them in real world debate,so im not going to spend my time on them. Max is coach who indulge his top players,it should be the other way around

 

[samir10]

A new coach won't solve the problems we're facing. I actually think it's a big gamble to fire Allegri after the season ends. I hope Berlusconi will give him one more chance, and hopefully a better squad.

Common sense

Forza Max!

 

[Sod-Lod]

Monday April 23 2012 Milan closest yet to full strength

Massimiliano Allegri is remarkably close to having a fully fit Milan squad to work with for the remaining weeks of the season.

Kevin Prince Boateng, Thiago Silva and Massimo Ambrosini all trained with the main group in Monday’s session, meaning that apart from the injured Alexandre Pato and suspended Daniele Bonera, the Rossoneri have almost everyone available for their midweek fixture with Genoa.

It is the closest Allegri has been all season to being able to select from a full roster, with 2011-12 otherwise characterised for the number of continued absences the team have been faced with.

Only six games ago did the Diavolo travel to Parma with a season-high 13 players unavailable for selection. Milan currently trail League leaders Ladri by three points in the race for the Scudetto, having dropped seven points from the past four rounds of action.

 

[Sod-Lod]

Di Marzio, "Allegri is not likely in Risk & he is also with us next year" 04/23/2012

Di Marzio, "Allegri is not likely in Risk & he is also with us next year"
Source: tmw

The industry expert with Sky, Gianluca Di Marzio, has issued statements on the situation of Massimiliano Allegri: "There are voices who want a confirmation on Allegri at risk. coach has renewed his contract and there is a great relationship with Galliani.
I think will finish the season on the bench and will be AC Milan again next year. "

 

[voom]

http://www.rossoneriblog.com/2012/04/23/the-curious-case-of-allegri/

 

[BrasilianMilan]

I've always supported Seedorf, but he's bouting about a substitution? Ridiculous

Along with some other people on this forum, I think it's time we get rid of the senators who don't agree with Allegri, as their generation has long past

FORZA MAX!

 

[Redman10]

I always had a lingering feeling the Senatore had too much power in the club.

 

[Ashish]

I always had a lingering feeling the Senatore had too much power in the club.

internal policing is not bad .. but

 

[Dark Knight]

The same way you know that tello, cuenca, pedro, busquets would never get a chance with us.

Yes because we are known for developing youth aren't we.. italy as a whole have no culture of trusting youth... even baggio said that. please learn to argue reasonably rather than OK u dont agree with me YOU ARE A NOOB .. not a true supporter tactic!

Ancelotti brought results in CL for so many years. Allegri has no chance.

Yes, he brought two CLs, but take a look at the squad he was given. I think he underachieved.

I am not saying that Allegri must be fired. But making that carlo comparison is just wrong.Look at the competition he had too. The players against him and the managers. The juventus side of Capello would absolutely wipe the fucking floor with this whole league. ancelotti faced people like mourinho, capello, lippi.. who does allegri face? dissing on ancelotti becaus he just won 1 league and 2 cl's is same as dissing on Sacchi.. he also won the same amount.. and with a squad which was even better!

This is by farrrrr the weakest era of italian league and i have followed it since the 80s. Italian league is the joke of the world football right now.

http://www.rossoneriblog.com/2012/04/23/the-curious-case-of-allegri/

 

[Senatore_M84]

I am not saying that Allegri must be fired. But making that carlo comparison is just wrong.Look at the competition he had too. The players against him and the managers. The juventus side of Capello would absolutely wipe the fucking floor with this whole league. ancelotti faced people like mourinho, capello, lippi.. who does allegri face? dissing on ancelotti becaus he just won 1 league and 2 cl's is same as dissing on Sacchi.. he also won the same amount.. and with a squad which was even better!

This is by farrrrr the weakest era of italian league and i have followed it since the 80s. Italian league is the joke of the world football right now.

at the same time...

look at our squad v. ancelotti's 03-06


Who aside from ibra and thiago start in that squad? Heck I don't even thing Ibra would....

Pretty much exact same could be said for capello's juve too. Only Thiago and ibra would break in..

 

[Sage]

Allegri should stay, he's part of the Milan era that will conquer italy and europe.

 

[USC]

I always had a lingering feeling the Senatore had too much power in the club.

You rang?

 

[Dark Knight]

at the same time...

look at our squad v. ancelotti's 03-06


Who aside from ibra and thiago start in that squad? Heck I don't even thing Ibra would....

Pretty much exact same could be said for capello's juve too. Only Thiago and ibra would break in..

I agree that even Ibra would'nt and thiago would if you put maldini at lb. but Milan 2003/6 isnt playing against this team.. No team of that quality exists in italian league not even 70% of that. This team is up against This Juve This roma this inter.. And the comparison you did of this milan v milan 03/06.. you can do the same with conte's juve v capello's juve.. point being Ancelotti's side was a thing of beauty but so was the competition. Winning this league with 2003/6 side is equivalent to Inter's calciopoli titles won with mancini i.e. irrelevant!

 

[USC]

Let's look at the characteristics of an Allegri side. You tell me if he has the right players to run it. And before anyone starts saying that a coach is supposed to change his style to the players, I'll remind you of an old Mitch Hedberg joke...."in Hollywood they want you to do a lot of things that's related to comedy but not comedy, like writing. It's like if you worked all those years to become a great cook and someone goes...great....can you farm?"

Allegri has his system in place. He was hired with the full knowledge that his system existed, yet we bemoan him for not changing his system?

Forwards - strong both on and off the ball, capable of creating their own shot.
Attacking midfielders - capable of rotating both wide and deep to play as a third striker or crash the defenseCenter Midfielders - strong defensively as well as able to maintain possession, either for pressing or destroying.
Centerbacks - capable of zone marking, man marking, and fast enough to get back from attack. Capable of playing the long ball to bypass the midfield
Fullbacks - ability to lead the attack and add the width lacking from a narrow formation.

Now, how many players do we have that fit that formation? I count 5:
Ibra, Silva, Nesta, KPB, MVB

Allegri asked for Asamoah, he got Muntari. Allegri asked for Tevez, he got Lopez. They're both black and Argentinean respectively!

 

[Senatore_M84]

Let's look at the characteristics of an Allegri side. You tell me if he has the right players to run it. And before anyone starts saying that a coach is supposed to change his style to the players, I'll remind you of an old Mitch Hedberg joke...."in Hollywood they want you to do a lot of things that's related to comedy but not comedy, like writing. It's like if you worked all those years to become a great cook and someone goes...great....can you farm?"

Allegri has his system in place. He was hired with the full knowledge that his system existed, yet we bemoan him for not changing his system?

Forwards - strong both on and off the ball, capable of creating their own shot.
Attacking midfielders - capable of rotating both wide and deep to play as a third striker or crash the defenseCenter Midfielders - strong defensively as well as able to maintain possession, either for pressing or destroying.
Centerbacks - capable of zone marking, man marking, and fast enough to get back from attack. Capable of playing the long ball to bypass the midfield
Fullbacks - ability to lead the attack and add the width lacking from a narrow formation.

Now, how many players do we have that fit that formation? I count 5:
Ibra, Silva, Nesta, KPB, MVB

Allegri asked for Asamoah, he got Muntari. Allegri asked for Tevez, he got Lopez. They're both black and Argentinean respectively!

yes but when you look at how his cagliari team played, it was completely different

How much of this is him adapting to what he has? My midfield is uncreative so i'll play out of back more. My midfield is uncreative so i'll play thru forwards more.

etc.
etc.

I mean at cagliari he had CF's like matri and cossu lead league in assists from AM position. Quite opposite of ibra/robinho creating and boateng/nocerino finishing.


There are certain characteristics he wants. Athleticism, pressure, speed. But beyond that he's been adaptive.

 

[Clarence]

The absolute biggest mistake Allegri made this season was playing Thiago Silva 120 minutes against Juventus after 90 minutes over the weekend. That was probably one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen, especially given the fact that Silva was hurt numerous times in the Juve match.

Then, Allegri turns around and starts him against Roma with plans to start him a few days later against Barcelona?

That is pure idiocy and there is no justification for it when you consider it was a fucking Coppa Italia match.

Ultimately, that decision cost us a shot at advancing in the CL and likely the Scudetto as well.

So true.

He's not the big tactician some desperately claim him to be and it's becoming more and more obvious that key players have lost faith.

Regarding the Bologna match it was the same, sad, "We must win ugly"-attacking story.
Long ball to Ibra. "No creativity in midfield needed." (Aquilani and Urby benched, Shaarawy in the stands)
When Bologna and Fiorentina double-man-mark the Swede, the 9 other outfield players become questionmarks and his one-dimensional gameplan collapses.

Refereeing decisions aside, Milan should DOMINATE Bologna (and Fiorentina) at San Siro like Juve did with Roma.

These results and season as a whole is simply unforgiving.


Genoa C.F.C. at San Siro the 25th could easily be Allegri's swan song.

 

[Sod-Lod]

And if you ritrovassero Ibra Cassano and Capello? 24/04/2012

Reporter and anchor for Sportitalia. Commentator for the program "The Championship of Champions" aired on Odeon TV. Presenter on Radio Milaninter.

It is, therefore, extinguished all hopes of reaching the Rossoneri until the last fight with Ladri which seems more than ever mistress of the shield.

In the championship final of the Bianconeri are Earl deserved the win with a stroke, determination and a lot of hunger for success.

And 'the most beautiful reality of Italian football is a team that plays well, is tactically flexible and inexhaustible athletically.

The Ladri team did a great job and was able to recover that spirit of the old lady tied to a group remain competitive.

The Milan lost, was defeated. First, from the point of view of the fight. "It 's all a question of nerves," said Allegri.

True. In the last few races, Milan should have played every game like that against Chievo. But he did not have the strength.

Physically it is a team spompata. Psychologically, the technician would have to make better use of the Tuscan resources.

Aquilani in place of Van Bommel? Aquilani (of which we are discussing the technical value) is a fighter? Gattuso is one that would give his life for Milan.

He must go out and bring others. Tough, evil, hard fight for every ball, every action.

Maxi Lopez continues to swear eternal love to the Rossoneri. Why not throw him into the fray? He expects no more than to be decisive. He needs help, because he proved to be mentally stronger than others, if only for the time spent at the hotel to wait for a yes Galliani.

The management of emotions and attitudes was better managed. And in the post match statements Allegri has now realized that resignation is the only sense available.

The others are finished. It remains the despair of a lost opportunity, because it was Milan who had 4 points ahead of Ladri and managed to lose 7 in a few games.

And Fabio Capello was sitting there in the stands at San Siro as he ended the fight. Almost an affront to one who never gives up.

And the former coach of the England seems to be the number one candidate to take over the Rossoneri's bench, where he find himself and Ibra Cassano.

The Swede has always respected a lot and would be happy to have him back as coach.

For Fantantonio, however, could be the perfect opportunity to demonstrate to be changed.

It remains the displeasure against Massimiliano Allegri who still knew how to interpret the values ​​in the right way Rossoneri.

But he expected more. There are no shortage of surprises. Tactically against Bologna won that Pioli has fielded a 3-4-1-2 which actually had 5 defenders to block bands.

So much so that Antonini and Abate have competed in a race sufficiency.

What was the counterpunch Allegri? No. Maybe change the game plan would have helped.

At least try. Flexibility and surprise. Features that had been distorted. And now he is probably too late for everything. Even the miracles, so why would defeat Ladri hours as well.

 

[asd]

I blame Berlusconi entirely, before the Coppa match vs Juve Galliani said "We always play our strongest squad," and those 120mins killed an already injured squad, to lose a shitty trophy. I also really doubt Allegri is stupid enough to risk his job by playing Seedorf as trequista, he says that him and Galliani together discuss tactics.

Please change to 4-4-1-1 or something, 4-2-3-1 but stop with this delusion that we have the midfielders to maintain control in that area. But I guess Boateng will be back now and Cassano is slowly getting there, we have to win all these last 5 games, Roma is shit we beat them in our current state, Juve can still falter like they have all year!

 

[Fiero]

Newsflash for people complaining about Allegri: He's competing for the title with a squad of Nocerino, Antonini, Emanuelson, Mesbah, Muntari, and the likes. The fact that he got the team so far means he's doing a good job.

Of course he's made mistakes otherwise the scudetto would have been locked up. So he deserves some of the blame, but he's not the main factor. My main criticism for him is as soon as we faced serious competition he cracked up. But it's too early to tell whether it's a one off or that's his personality so I guess we'll see next season. But I trust in Allegri.

Oh and he will be here next season. Milan just gave him a two year extension so I don't think they'll relieve him of his duties and keep paying him nor give him a huge compensation package.

 

[Zeusftw]

one thing that is beyond wierd is that we were able to eat Arsenal alive 4-0 at san siro and ever since then we've been playing like shit. leagues sold to juventus, i dont want to believe anything else lol.

 

[joyrider]

arsenal was even more shit that night

 

[naive_harry]

Are you for real? I mean really? Carletto had much better squad at his disposal than the one Max has now + lot less injuries. Think twice before you post crap.

thats rude
anyways, the question was, why would management show more patience to ancelotti than allegri.
Ancelotti brought results, as simple as that.
Let me tell you this much, that management is still in the illusion that we have a team full of champions and they expect results.
Allegri has mad us play some of the worst football I have ever seen in last few weeks, blame the injuries all you want.

 

[luke07]

thats rude
anyways, the question was, why would management show more patience to ancelotti than allegri.
Ancelotti brought results, as simple as that.
Let me tell you this much, that management is still in the illusion that we have a team full of champions and they expect results.
Allegri has mad us play some of the worst football I have ever seen in last few weeks, blame the injuries all you want.

dude you post the exact answer yet you still blame allegri