The Rumour Commode XLI: Ragnarok

[Wild]

You are conflating two things, racism with racists/bigots. One is systemic and the other is personal. We will never rid the world of bigots and racists, and thats not really the goal. However, racism is absolutely something that can be eradicated, as they are the systems that were put in place by bigots decades and centuries ago.

Like, I don’t care how any particular person feels about my race or culture, I just want to be able to get the same consideration and interest rate at the bank when I go to get a loan. I want the same credit score for having the same level of risk. I want the valuation of my home to be the same as anyone elses when I have it appraised, despite having pictures of my blackass on every digital picture frame in the house. When I drive my car I want the police to treat me the same as anyone else and not see me as more of a threat. That stuff can change.

I think what you’re describing can also be termed “the online left” whom call for a far more extreme form of cultural liberalism than people do in real daily life. Most criticism of the left falls on the side of cultural issues in the US, as the right have no actual policy to run on so its all hysteria about CRT and wokeism, and more than half the people who rally against them couldnt even define them if forced to.

Bravo sir.
Systematic racism or even patriarchy is something silly to even mention specially in the west.

 

[brk]

Losing to Juve means Roma can overtake us if they win. We can’t afford to lose

Edit: Roma are losing…if they don’t win, they yes, we can lose by 1 goal

Bold to assume that we’ll beat Hellas tho

I’d rather they need a win against us and not a draw or even already relegated. Having them need a win means they’ll have to push a bit and that might give us space.

 

[Wild]

This racism discussion really amping up my Monday..

You racist you.

 

[mrki]

I would take Kessie back. He went for the money but he served the club professionaly untill the last minute. But Maldini will not do that.

I'm saying it now so you know, Loftus is not the midfielder we need unless they want him to be new Kessie. We need a player like Kessie. Maybe Fofana. So that Tonali can go more up.

Diaz is a player you're better to loose then to spend money on.

And as much I'm in awe of our Paolo it seems that next mercato will not bring what I see as needed. Of course it's not important what do I think but what works for Milan. But come on its pretty obvious Diaz is not the one. As well as that we need a real press resistant dm. Or a press resistant player like Kovacic.

Arnautovic or Scamacca at Ibras place is ok. But starting cf and starting rw need to be top talents. Enough with half players.

 

[brk]

Say that after the game is done.
We're 21 minutes in.

Roma will win this, it’s still really early.

 

[Master Smurf]

For me there will always be idiots & racists.
Best efficient way to beat them is to grow tougher skins like Alves & Leao.
Racism toward those two are dew to none due to the fact they dont feel insulted by some ignorant fuck.

If am not mistaken Bon was asking a black teammate to stop hitting back toward racist chants which if it was the case the smart way to go.

If that is what you feel you say it to the player in private, you dont alienate him and embolden fans, excusing reprehensible behaviour.

We all know how we are supposed to act in public no matter what we may be thinking. This excuse that they want to rile up players etc is a joke, find a better way to do so or be forced to watch it on tv.

 

[sheva]

He was talking about Pep,not people.
Pep didnt like Carlos claiming all Barca fans are racist.
I was more ashamed with Pep when he said that white people should say sorry for 400 years of slavery , fuck that.

 

[AC_Wesley]

Adidas are releasing new boots with Prada.

Leao is one of the players that will be wearing them.

Kid is becoming a star.

Beautiful news. I remember specifically buying the Adidas boots because Kaka wore them.

 

[Kmoney]

Am I out of touch or is the Roma lineup filled with literal nobodies

I mean they’re still gonna win tho but damn

 

[Hitchens]

Really cool interview with Maldini transcribed into English:

Maldini discusses Milan memories, development of Leao, son Daniel and future of football

Paolo Maldini has spoken about how his AC Milan story started and the various key moments of his career, while he also discussed Rafael Leao and the economic future of the game.

sempremilan.com

Great read, thanks for sharing.

 

[Samaldinho]

Berlusconi family are pretty racist & sexist also.

Yeah, and despite all that, they didn't tell Kevin Prince Boateng to shut up and get on with things.

So imagine how shitty you have to be to tell players to move on that even Berlusconi wouldn't object to his own players publicly going against racism like Kevin Prince Boateng?

 

[sheva]

We fucking went and lost to Spezia 2-0

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking whores

 

[Curupira]

Am I a bad person if I'd take him in a heart beat on a bosman? Even if he's only a 1-year-solution, but the more bosmans we get that can actually help us this season, the likier we can fetch the ~100M to buy Osimhem from Napoli



Fair point. I misread your initial post as more like "Milan wasn't able to offer them what they asked" like it was an unilateral decision from the players to leave while leaving MM empty handed. IMO at a certain point it looked more like MM left the table saying "we made you perfectly fair offers, take it or leave it". Especially in Donnarummas case. Quite literally in Kessie case after the dispute between Maldini and Atangana

Definition of a mercenary. Would be ok as a spark off the bench but wouldn’t count on him consistently. Probably wants high wages as well and heart is set on collecting more checks before going back to .

Me personally I would avoid.

 

[Ryo]

1-1.
LMAO.
Speak to quickly and this is what happens.

 

[Pippo]

Come on hand ball!!

 

[IL-Capitano]

With 11 points we would need one points of our remaining games & we will edge Juve.

After this clusterfuck of a season, needing only 4 points from the last 2 is a blessing. If we can’t even do this then we don’t deserve shit

Milan have been the architects of their own disappointments this season. Tactical decisions have been costly losing points where 3 points should have been a formality injuries/player form/rotation policy or not.

Losing to Juve means Roma can overtake us if they win. We can’t afford to lose

Edit: Roma are losing…if they don’t win, they yes, we can lose by 1 goal

Bold to assume that we’ll beat Hellas tho

Milan have a boost from beating Samp (granted samp are an already relegated side) Milan must carry that tempo and spirit of that 5-1 win into the games against juve and Verona and win both games. This has to to be the minimum requirement.

Next season I suspect or at the very least hope to see a wiser Milan, who do not self sabotage themselves with tactical inadequacies.

Forza Milan ️️

 

[gioiuzza]

1-1.
LMAO.
Speak to quickly and this is what happens.

you were saying?

 

[sheva]

@Maldini bring him to Milan

but won't he clash in that position with messi & mbappe?

 

[Ryo]

you were saying?

Roma still have 45 minutes to win it.
Nothings decided until the fat referee whistles.

 

[SuperPippo]

Don't forget we're the only ones who lose against relegation fodder.

 

[Curupira]

I'd imagine the Milan fans would kick his ass and throw him out of the stadium themselves if that happens, which is the point. Self policing.

What if people are abused and beat in the name of “self policing”?

Wild west free for all?

 

[Ryo]

What if people are abused and beat in the name of “self policing”?

Wild west free for all?

The self-policing.

Still better than starting a turf war.

 

[rossonero1]

Seems like they will request a 11pt penalty for ladri. Who and when will this be approved? I hope there is no fucking appeals process again this time

Probably after Juve play tonight or tomorrow.

 

[papaberlu]

Am I out of touch or is the Roma lineup filled with literal nobodies

I mean they’re still gonna win tho but damn

They've been pretty battered by injuries and playing lineups with nobodies for months

Incredible job by Jose to have them in the EL final and within reach of top 4

 

[Curupira]

Why would anybody in their right minds leave their house, go to a stadium and then start racist chants? Is this not a form of mental illness?

This is the 21st century and European clubs need to stop this madness and bring down the hammer on the imbeciles that do this. Why do they put up with this?

Bc they are low-lives and have nothing to lose.

The racists would be at least closeted if they had something to lose in life (ie respectable job / livelihood)

 

[sheva]

I'm slowly starting to change my mind about Furlani. Apparently he's a finance Guru and was the MVP in the negotiations between Milan, Lille and Sporting to find a (still disclosed) solution to Leaos fee, which eventuall paved the way to Leao finally renewing.

Unsung hero.

what hero? he paid 90% of the fine fee to lille/ got it moved around around through elliot shadow lawyers

 

[sheva]

What if a Milan fan pretends to be an Inter fan and abuses players. Inter lose points, fall out of top 4 and Milan benefits??

life isn't a cia false flag operation

 

[Hitchens]

Incredible that we're on our way to making top 4

Padre resta.

 

[SuperPippo]

Incredible that we're on our way to making top 4

Padre resta.

Great timing.

 

[Curupira]

Growing up in the south and swimming on a predominantly black swim team, I’ve definitely heard quite a few things said by other swimmers, their parents, and their coaches.

With that said, my coach always preached what @Wild is saying. Handle your business and beat their ass in the pool and move on to bigger and better things, and we’ve never really had any serious incidents with these people.

Not saying others’ suggestions don’t have validity, just a personal anecdote.