The Rumour Commode XLI: Ragnarok

[General]

Gerry, you have one shot

give leaders who will build a team to win the league and the CL over the next 3 years

 

[Ash]

Redbird era just kicked off, for the good or bad, they took a legitimate decision. It’s their right to make changes and question the signings of cdk, origi, messias, dest, florenzi and co.

Why arent they questioning Pioli's performance then?

You genuinely think that even with this squad the team wasnt good enough to comfortably finish top 4?

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[Kojak]

We still Gundogan?

 

[Wild]

What is strange to me is not Maldini leaving but Maldini being fired during a 5 minutes meeting

He wanted more power & they gave in.
He had to have a good mercato after that & he didn't.

 

[Balo45]

So there’s 2 obvious options here, and we need to wait to hear from Maldini or Cardinale (whoever speaks first)

1. Maldini argued with them because they didn’t want to spend money. And he left/they fired him however it went down

2. They fired him because he kinda failed his mercato last year

Neither. But option 2 is close. Maldini and Gerry had a long back and forth last summer and Maldini won, he got full power.

He failed and Gerry said wait a minute.

 

[General]

Listen, we gotta drop the "these guys are idiots" chatter... We are being run by Harvard educated folk.

It doesn't at all mean they're right, but they sure as fuck aren't dumb. And it sure as hell means that an incredible amount of analysis and planning went into the decision.

This was more than a decision, this is monumental. I'm honestly floored, and have no idea if it was the right move.

it's well known i was ALWAYS against maldini in his role, but i was ALWAYS a fan of him being part of the club in some capacity

maldini has a place in our hearts.

but almost every RnBer said he was over his skis in this role

can’t bitch it we don’t like the outcome

 

[Hugh Janus]

Heard Furlani is unretiring the #3 tomorrow

 

[Master Smurf]

I can’t believe he fired Maldini instead of Pioli. Should have been the other way round IMO.

I’m not sure how this is best for Milan.

I’m pretty scared and uncertain about how things are going to be now.

Is it confirmed?

If it is then everything people said about Gerry and going minimal was true - There isnt a grand plan to scale up, its gambling on finding good cheap players and however we do its OK, milk the fans and build revenue streams off just Milan's built in fandom, not actually chasing glory.

 

[General]

He wanted more power & they gave in.
He had to have a good mercato after that & he didn't.

Exactly

he had his shot

the season failed on a few key points

thats on Maldini at some level

there has to be accountability

 

[CapitanoMaldini]

Why arent they questioning Pioli's performance then?

You genuinely think that even with this squad the team wasnt good enough to comfortably finish top 4?

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Actually I’m not sure. Inter, Napoli were clear of us, on the field and on paper for the most part.

Finishing 3-5 was probably the most realistic outcome with Juve and Roma being the other candidates (on paper when the season began)

 

[General]

Is it confirmed?

If it is then everything people said about Gerry and going minimal was true - There isnt a grand plan to scale up, its gambling on finding good cheap players and however we do its OK, milk the fans and build revenue streams off just Milan's built in fandom, not actually chasing glory.

milan is also built on glory

its not just emotional send offs and family


we want to win

 

[Samaldinho]

maldini has a place in our hearts.

but almost every RnBer said he was over his skis in this role

can’t bitch it we don’t like the outcome

I'm shocked you're taking this stance.

 

[Omer]

Il dopo Maldini-Massara: chi resta, chi arriva e quali operazioni salteranno

La notizia, che vi avevamo anticipato in tempi non sospetti, dell'addio di Maldini e Massara dal Milan ha sconvolto l'estate rossonera: tra i nomi al vaglio per il futuro quello di Modesto (dt del Monza) e Igli Tare ex ds della Lazio

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The news, which we had anticipated in unsuspecting times, of the farewell of Maldini and Massara from Milan has upset the Rossoneri summer: among the names under consideration for the future that of Modesto (Monza manager) and Igli Tare ex ds of the Lazio​

The news, which we had anticipated in unsuspecting times , of the farewell of Maldini and Massara from Milan has upset the AC Milan summer. But now, journalistically, it's time to name the possible replacements for the dynamic Rossoneri duo who will soon make their farewell official ( here the reasons ).

First possibility: more space in Moncada​

The man who in all likelihood will acquire a more important role could be Geoffrey Moncada who, while remaining away from the television cameras, will operate with greater decision-making power on the market, also dealing independently with the players viewed by his team of observers.

New Milan technical director: Modesto​

On the other hand, whoever will also captain Milan's next operations at the media level will be an experienced technical director with a strategic line similar to that dictated by Red Bird. The hottest name is that of François-Joseph Modesto, current technical director of Monza and in the past the architect of the growth of the well-known Greek club Olympiacos. Moncada is the one who further pleads this candidacy, as he greatly appreciates the work of the current Brianza manager, his compatriot.

New Milan sporting director: Tare​

However, if as they say "nothing happens by chance" the farewell of Maldini and Massara coincides in time with another sensational separation: the one between Igli Tare and Lazio. In fact, the Albanian sporting director leaves the Biancoceleste club after 18 years of militancy, and is back in fashion again in the upper floors of Casa Milan after having already been associated with the Rossoneri colors in the post-Leonardo era. An arrival from Tare that would pave the way for a sensational purchase: Sergej Milinkovic-Savic who, it's no secret, has found a second father in the Albanian executive. Not secondary element: Tare and Pioli worked together with Lazio, a synergy that brought – precisely – Milinkovic himself to the capital.

Modesto and Tare together​

Another possible scenario would be the arrival of both Modesto (technical director) and Tare (sports director) at the Rossoneri, in this case Moncada would remain in his current role as scout leader, leaving the task of designing the future Rossoneri transfer campaign.

Inbound transactions frozen​

With the farewell of Maldini and Massara, the incoming operations carried out and not yet finalized by the duo of managers starting from Daichi Kamada are also frozen. The Japanese playmaker, who has already accepted a 3 million euro offer for 4 years with Milan, will now have to wait for ratification by the next Rossoneri sporting director. On the other hand, the Loftus-Cheek operation is perhaps definitively closed with Milan who will now have to rewrite their transfer campaign from scratch.

 

[voom]

Yeah when we need to convince a young talent, instead of Paolo Maldini giving the player a call, it'll be a guy with great video analysis, he'll send them a list of players that he scouted before they became huge, it'll be a great sales pitch.

"Hey, I knew that Enzo, Muani, Leao, Maignan, Vini, and Haaland would be a great players, trust me, how about you come to AC Milan to make less money instead of Chelsea?"

We won't miss a beat without Maldini, totally.

Milan isn't Maldini and Inter is not Zanetti. Did players chose solely on the Maldini's name , absolutely.
Leao said in his latest Interview that ,he truly realize stature of the club after winning the scudetto.

Performance on the pitch is what I really care about. Maldini will be a big loss,but time marches on, and waits for no one. Legendary player, great person .

 

[AC Kid]

This was planned for a while and Maldini knew nothing about it.

joe pesci in goodfellas thought he was getting made and instead got a bullet in the back of his head … the same

 

[Ash]

Yeah after last season, I really didn't think we'd go through that shit all over again. Everything looked like we were gonna move fast and early and that we wouldn't repeat the past mistakes.

As I said, I really hope Cardinale knows what he's doing.

I certainly did

It was painfully obvious that this ownership has zero ambitions

Was made ever so clear when they even failed to provide the minimum for a backup GK in Jan

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[General]

I'm shocked you're taking this stance.

Well… I honestly would have done something similar

when the results aren’t there, you have to make a change

 

[MarioReality]

maldini has a place in our hearts.

but almost every RnBer said he was over his skis in this role

can’t bitch it we don’t like the outcome

I vividly remember being shit on by a large majority by saying he was unfit for such a big roll before he even got it.

I love paolo. I wanted and still want him here. But he was never suitable for the role he was given. That comes only after yrs of experience.

He paid the price, unfortunately

 

[AC_Wesley]

maldini has a place in our hearts.

but almost every RnBer said he was over his skis in this role

can’t bitch it we don’t like the outcome

Get in here you little G

 

[Samaldinho]

milan is also built on glory

its not just emotional send offs and family


we want to win

The family aspect is a huge part of why people are drawn to this club, though.

They have to win next year now. If you're going to fire the most trusted person at the club, you have to succeed, immediately.

 

[ChinaMilan]

New owners, they want their guys in charge.

I hate it but I fully understand it.

They paid for the club, they own it and they have the right to pursue their own vision….

sorry but that is BS and it shows their lack of knowledge and understanding of the situation, i understand it if this moves happened by Chelsea owners who invested heavy in the club for some years with 0 results, but these fucks spent nothing so far, last meracto was covered by Elliot, they did nothing in the winter mercato to help the team, the club already lost one idol in Ibra, losing another what kind of message you are trying to convey?.

For me i think it was obvious, Maldini talked about having strong players to compete(in other words you need to spend to win and not just in kids to sell) and Pioli confirmed the same message but Redshit want to treat us as an academy for richer teams(Dortmund, ajax...) so they fired them, they don't want to win titles they want to win Money, which the worst type of owners you can have.

 

[Balo45]

Exactly

he had his shot

the season failed on a few key points

thats on Maldini at some level

there has to be accountability

This is it exactly.

The issue now though, is the guys next up have to deliver. Another failed season and the fans will want their heads more than now.

 

[leaf]

Okey sell Leao, Theo i Mike for 300M and create new Milan. Fuck it, I am ready

Pls ban this guy

 

[Bagheera]

So, how long before Elliott get control again?

 

[sheva]

Yup. Not disagreeing with that.

It still doesn't change that the club didn't look like a top 4 team this year. And when you go from 1st to barely making 4th in one year, someone has to pay.

good thing that's not gerry

 

[Samaldinho]

Milan isn't Maldini and Inter is not Zanetti. Did players chose solely on the Maldini's name , absolutely.
Leao said in his latest Interview that ,he truly realize stature of the club after winning the scudetto.

Performance on the pitch is what I really care about. Maldini will be a big loss,but time marches on, and waits for no one. Legendary player, great person .

Who is Zanetti? Is that the 6th or 7th best RB of all time? I keep forgetting about him.

Anyway.

Yes, I'm not saying that Maldini had to stay no matter what. I'm saying that if you make a decision this big you have to win, right away. You lose patience from fans when you fire the SD who built this team.

 

[Cloren]

I'm saying Maldini didn't get fired for asking for investment

Pioli obviously has his faults but I think firing him and Maldini would cause a mutiny

Yeah it was always gonna be either him or Pioli.

In my case I wanted it to be Pioli, I think he’s the one that failed bigger. Firing both would have been catastrophic.

If Pioli fails again next season he’ll be sacked too

Don’t get those who want the project to suddenly fail btw, get a fucking grip brothers. We are all shocked and many of us are upset, but we should still want Milan to do well and still hope that whatever comes out of this, our club can somehow be better from it. I have low expectations but hoping the project fail because our legend got sacked is not it

 

[CapitanoMaldini]

Who is Zanetti? Is that the 6th or 7th best RB of all time? I keep forgetting about him.

Anyway.

Yes, I'm not saying that Maldini had to stay no matter what. I'm saying that if you make a decision this big you have to win, right away. You lose patience from fans when you fire the SD who built this team.

Yes, that’s their gamble. It has to pay off because in Italy the pressure will be immense and they can try to distance themselves as much as possible but it won’t be feasible.

 

[General]

good thing that's not gerry

That makes no sense

Gerry gave control to Maldini…

 

[MarioReality]

Im with @Samaldinho 100% that pioli can't stay if moncadismo is the plan.

Then again, I think they're waiting on a sporting director who will then change the coach.