The Rumour Commode XLII: An Homage to Bunga

Serie A: upcoming 23/24 season is going to be better than previous 22/23 season


  • Total voters
    155
  • Poll closed .
Status
Not open for further replies.

Polotelli

Milan Legend
SAPL Moderator
Joined
Jun 15, 2010
Messages
17,374
Reaction score
668
Location
Belgio
Fav. Players
Maignan, Tomori, Theo, Bennacer, Reijnders, Loftus-Cheek, Pulisic, Leao
358528694_854756439550885_5678071571692832719_n.jpg


New Matchday apparel.
Looks like something from a different sport
 

Mr. Tea

Ac Milan Icon
Joined
May 8, 2015
Messages
2,695
Reaction score
2,612
What IS Bennacer's injury? I know it's the knee, but there's been no specifics (ACL, MCL, meniscus, etc). At least none that I've seen.
I thought it was his meniscus, but I could be wrong
 

sheva

suso's dog
Joined
Jul 28, 2015
Messages
8,182
Reaction score
22,729
Location
Jerusalem
He last played a match back in 2022 January. Not only that, but in that time, he was suspended, meaning he couldn't even train. 1,5 years of not training for a 21 years old is a huge, huge handicap. What kind of physical shape is he in? In my opinion, he is a huge, huge question mark.
it's not like he hadn't worked out during that time, beating women could be a physical strain
 

Forza AC Milan

Milan Icon
Joined
Apr 27, 2007
Messages
4,788
Reaction score
3,409
Apparently we're going to promote Eletu from the Primavera so 6 players should be enough. Also, Gravenberch is very good defensively plus Musah + RLC both have great physicality. We'll be fine.
Actually we won’t. It would be a disaster of a midfield and people here will be looking for what to blame as the team falls and flops.

It also means we will be seeing Krunic every game as he would be the only “DM” in the team.

We need to sign a DM fast or this market could turn into a colossal failure
 

KujaIX

Mexes & Muntari fanboy
Joined
Dec 10, 2008
Messages
35,931
Reaction score
4,936
Fav. Players
Current team
I agree about Greenw but we shouldnt condemn players unless concrete evidence is presented.
There is probably as much lying evil women as there is rapists.
Didnt Mendy proven innocent?
In cases like Mendy, don't have that tarnish the club. And it turns out he's still under trial for one count of ****.

In cases like Greenwood, he was not not proved innocent and there was concrete evidence released into the public domain of him literally doing it.

Let's say you have video evidence of a player beating his girlfriend. She then decides to press charges before dropping them the next day and then the case goes away. Would you want that player at your club?
 

Mr. Tea

Ac Milan Icon
Joined
May 8, 2015
Messages
2,695
Reaction score
2,612
What’s the hype for Rice anyway…I’d take our Kessie over him tbh
 

Sheva0172

Milan Legend
Joined
Aug 17, 2009
Messages
5,675
Reaction score
1,068
Location
Netherlands
Fav. Players
Shevchenko, Maldini, Pippo, Nesta
So PSG need to offload midfielders? They have 3 I would love to see with us. Verratti, Renato and maybe also Fabian. Probably they are on insane salaries though.
 

Forza AC Milan

Milan Icon
Joined
Apr 27, 2007
Messages
4,788
Reaction score
3,409
We should kill this idea of Musah and go get a DM first and foremost preferably someone who knows the league well like Amrabat, Hjulmund and Dominguez (who is actually a mix of a 6 & 8 himself). We can also sign the Dutch kid we were reported interested in earlier.

But no way should we go into the season without such a player. Absolutely no way as it undermines our whole team
 

Wild

*Rejuvenation*
Joined
Jun 6, 2005
Messages
51,665
Reaction score
35,683
Location
Lebanon-Beirut
Fav. Players
Baresi - Maldini - Nesta - Jessica Alba
In cases like Mendy, don't have that tarnish the club. And it turns out he's still under trial for one count of ****.

In cases like Greenwood, he was not not proved innocent and there was concrete evidence released into the public domain of him literally doing it.

Let's say you have video evidence of a player beating his girlfriend. She then decides to press charges before dropping them the next day and then the case goes away. Would you want that player at your club?
I said evidence , not charges or sentences.
Greenw is a prime example where he is guilty but not charged.
 

vB9

Man with a Plan
Joined
Jun 8, 2003
Messages
29,978
Reaction score
25,642
Fav. Players
Schmeichel, Maldini, Maradona and ME
it's not like he hadn't worked out during that time, beating women could be a physical strain
blame the corticosteroids
 

KujaIX

Mexes & Muntari fanboy
Joined
Dec 10, 2008
Messages
35,931
Reaction score
4,936
Fav. Players
Current team
I said evidence , not charges or sentences.
Greenw is a prime example where he is guilty but not charged.
Generally in trials we don't see the evidence, we just see whether they were guilty or innocent.

Robinho, for example, was tried and found guilty in absentia for **** but we didn't see it (thankfully). Partey is accused of **** but hasn't properly been named and hasn't been put to trial yet.

It is odd that we get concrete evidence of this stuff without it going to trial and effectively going under embargo, that's why the Greenwood case was so easy to make a decision on as a fan immediately, because the first step was the release of the concrete evidence of him being abusive.

For example, Siggurdsson was a different case, there were rumours someone had done something, rumours that he played for Everton, it was narrowed down to him and that it was related to underage sexual stuff. However, then it pretty much completely dropped off the radar and it was only like last month where it got brushed under the carpet. That is the complete opposite of what happened with Greenwood. We don't know why it got dropped, we don't know what the charges were originally, we didn't know anything other than it was him, with Greenwood we knew what it was immediately.
 

Rossonero10

All Star
Joined
Oct 23, 2022
Messages
195
Reaction score
1,004
His case has been dropped by a court of law apart from his girlfriend comming back. If you do away with all abusive relationships than 50-70% of relationships are probably gone, that’s not realistic and a good amount of that is private life. That Greenwood got in the media doesn’t make him special.
Lol wut? :lol:
 

Wild

*Rejuvenation*
Joined
Jun 6, 2005
Messages
51,665
Reaction score
35,683
Location
Lebanon-Beirut
Fav. Players
Baresi - Maldini - Nesta - Jessica Alba
Generally in trials we don't see the evidence, we just see whether they were guilty or innocent.

Robinho, for example, was tried and found guilty in absentia for **** but we didn't see it (thankfully). Partey is accused of **** but hasn't properly been named and hasn't been put to trial yet.

It is odd that we get concrete evidence of this stuff without it going to trial and effectively going under embargo, that's why the Greenwood case was so easy to make a decision on as a fan immediately, because the first step was the release of the concrete evidence of him being abusive.

For example, Siggurdsson was a different case, there were rumours someone had done something, rumours that he played for Everton, it was narrowed down to him and that it was related to underage sexual stuff. However, then it pretty much completely dropped off the radar and it was only like last month where it got brushed under the carpet. That is the complete opposite of what happened with Greenwood. We don't know why it got dropped, we don't know what the charges were originally, we didn't know anything other than it was him, with Greenwood we knew what it was immediately.
I dont know what are you arguing about.
In case of evidense like with Greenw or sentense like with Robi then we shouldnt go for them.
In case we didnt see any conrete evidense & charges are dropped or the sentense was innocence then we should treat the guy as innocent & a victim.
 

Alo88

Milan Legend
Joined
Nov 28, 2013
Messages
20,159
Reaction score
46,629
Location
Switzerland
let me clarify, i'm far from the rumor-driven crowd that gets emotional whiplash out of potential targets that the media brings up to generate clicks.
every transfer should be judged according to their performance on the field and it doesn't really matter if he were crazy good with their last team or failed hard.
as well, i've said that a smart ownership should not waste their time trying to assert dominance in italy only but rather concentrate on upgrading international markets.

as you said, the majority of fans do not have a thorough idea on the day-to-day that goes on in the club, that's also why stadium attendance isn't plummeting as we're riding the high of last season. saying most fans will boycott the club due to tonali & maldini's treatment is delusional and i've said it during peak meltdown here as well.

redbird have yet to prove their capabilities when handling this big of a project, toulouse is too miniscule of an example to extrapolate anything substiantial. if they will go on to achieve greater highs each year then no one will remember their rocky beginning, maybe few. so far, they haven't.
if the banter era taught us anything, is that fan appreciation and investment falls very quickly from grace when several factors come in together.
yes, controlling narratives is essential when dealing inside italy which like it or not, we will need to do when we're selling off fodders, buying italians for the lists, investing in future prospects from italian academies, etc.

a smart sd has to juggle between all those aspects, and with bad press it's a harder job to pull off. even wondered why marotta can get those ludicrous deals when he's selling a inter primavera fodder for 10-15 million to an italian midtable team? italian teams are not swimming in cash, mind you.
the weak bend to the strong, that's how it is in nature. if we're fixing our RW situation this summer, why not start working on the

you mentioned the hardcore fans as the only ones affected by bad rumors, but there is no crowd opinions inside italy as well? milan fans bemoaning their ownership does not trickle down eventually? why wouldn't cardinale want to make milan a premium brand inside italy as well, boost shirt sales and everything marketing related is beyond me.
sure, he can sc**** by with top 4 and slow satdium trajectory for years, why not maximizing it, though? and the price for it is getting good with some journos, i don't think it's such a climb.

What Marotta is doing has nothing to do with his relationship to medias tho?

Marotta is in the business since 20 years. He was instrumental in turning Sampdoria into a successful club and achieving promotion to Serie A back in the days after taking over as CEO in 2003. His work at Sampdoria earned him a good reputation and recognition in the Italian football world, which eventually led to his appointment as sporting director at Juventus Turin in 2010. He has established himself as one of the oldest and most veteran SDs by now, that's why he has good relationships with probably every SD.

What has the handling of media to do with that?

Bad rumors, as I said, have a very little impact on the general mood of fans. I think that's not just me saying it but it's also proved by facts like ever full stadiums and increasing revenues from selling Merch. Success is the biggest (and maybe even only) driver of enthusiasm. Silvio and all his propaganda about Milanismo, ItalMilan and what not didn't help filling the stadium during banter era. Getting back to qualify for CL, winning the league and getting 4th place CL did. Fans will forget about some bad press quickly as long as the team progresses. If there's bad press that could really be damaging for the club, the club will take measures as shown with the Laudisa-article. Otherwise, it's silly season, they will write whatever they want, they will write Gerry is a soulless American who doesn't understand Italian football and couldn't handle a Milan legend being more popular than him. They will write he's pocketing the money from Tonalis sale and that we're monitoring Tottenhams modell as an excample to follow. But how much will that really weight for the majority of fans when we win our next Scudetto? Not a little bit.

I mean look how the narrative with Elliott taking over has been tried to be depicted negative despite facts showing increasing sporting results while sanitizing the financial health of the club. Did Elliott care about that? Nope. Neither did the fans who kept filling up the stadium because facts - other than words - don't lie.
 

Deep Fried Pizza & Chips

Probably Maldini's fault
Joined
Aug 25, 2022
Messages
11,721
Reaction score
34,443
Fav. Players
Maldini, Gullit, Savićevićic, Baresi, Rikjaard, Pippo, Desailly
Greenwood was caught literally on record being a cunt, a massive girl beating cunt...

Now on occasion we accept pussies at Milan(usually Belgian in nature), but we do NOT welcome cunts... Especially rapey ones!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Schedule
Top