The Rumour Commode XLVII: Foamseca is out

[theduck7]

I say it a lot Milan but the absolute bare minimum I ask of our team is respect the shirt and brand (as in no water bottle or penalty embarrassments) and absolute maximum 100% effort in every game for 90 minutes. Completely unacceptable and something we should never stand for if not adhered to

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

I say it a lot Milan but the absolute bare minimum I ask of our team is respect the shirt and brand (as in no water bottle or penalty embarrassments) and absolute maximum 100% effort in every game for 90 minutes. Completely unacceptable and something we should never stand for if not adhered to

When they play in pink and purple, mint green and grey, or rip off Portugal kits, how do you expect the players to even know what historic shirt they're respecting?

Playing home games in so many non-milan jerseys really shows where our priorities are and what sort of mind set sections of the fan base have.

The history books won't remember 2nd, 5th or 9th, but we will remember winning that one Scudetto that one time... The previous 18 really are a distant memory that many are only aware of through Google.

We're an embarrassment at this point...

 

[Alo88]

Tare out of the picture, agreement with Paratici close

I'm low-key starting to believe that Paratici is actually already more or less operational, but we can't say that out loud because of his ban.

Also, because we still have a season to end and probably at least a tiny little shred of respect for our coach, the club will always deny any talks or agreements with potential new coaches, as will potential candidates, maybe leaving the door open for one itty bitty inch in case Conceicao suddenly cracks the code and pulls off a post-Covid Pioli (very unlikely).

It's just a gut feeling tho. Maybe I'm just coping.

 

[Alo88]

Not as fast as Napoli taking the lead last night lol...

 

[pippofan]

True.
Problem is, whoever we sign now will become trash here as we are such a toxic club with toxic atmosphere all around. Its almost impossible for anyone new to succeed.

Do you think Gimenez would do much better in Napoli or Fiorentina for example? I do think, i am pretty sure
Would Kean suck here? i am also pretty sure he would..
First and foremost we lack atmosphere around the club and overall work ethic. I knew one person who could take care of it like no other, but he is not in club anymore

That's pretty sad and our dysfunction begins with the owner and goes all the way down to coaching.
Basically every player, except two, have regressed since the scudetto season that led us to believe we would stay on top. Kean has probably been pushed by Palladino to do the best he can to advance his career and the player is completely changed in terms of character.

Much credit goes to him for those changes and probably the feeling of support from the organization. Might not have worked at Milan under this administration where they fight among each-other for control and pretty much ignore the players. Nothing will change unless we get rid of everyone involved with the construction of the team and replace them with experienced and able people.

 

[Hitchens]

I'm low-key starting to believe that Paratici is actually already more or less operational, but we can't say that out loud because of his ban.

Also, because we still have a season to end and probably at least a tiny little shred of respect for our coach, the club will always deny any talks or agreements with potential new coaches, as will potential candidates, maybe leaving the door open for one itty bitty inch in case Conceicao suddenly cracks the code and pulls off a post-Covid Pioli (very unlikely).

It's just a gut feeling tho. Maybe I'm just coping.

My impression too.

Ibra's latest statements worry me though. I have no idea how he fits in with the Paratici course of action.

 

[ZBoban]

I'm low-key starting to believe that Paratici is actually already more or less operational, but we can't say that out loud because of his ban.

Also, because we still have a season to end and probably at least a tiny little shred of respect for our coach, the club will always deny any talks or agreements with potential new coaches, as will potential candidates, maybe leaving the door open for one itty bitty inch in case Conceicao suddenly cracks the code and pulls off a post-Covid Pioli (very unlikely).

It's just a gut feeling tho. Maybe I'm just coping.

That means Conte too right??

 

[pippofan]

It's probably been mentioned but why was Giminez taking a pen? Was it a confidence thing to try to get him back? Was Pulisic on the field at this point? Apologises I didn't watch the game as I haven't been recently due to not wanting to depress myself any further. Just from the outside looks like another penalty disaster case. I'm also fed up reading stuff like illness etc altered the squad, that first goal just looked like we have bad players tbh. Don't want to hear any more excuses, here's no way this kinda thing can keep happening consistently without there being a deep rooted problem

Pulisic gave it up to Gimenez believing that scoring, even on a penalty, would help him regain confidence and make him play better. It was a horrible decision when you're attempting to make a comeback in a very important match which require using the one with best record of success. It's okay to be nice but not at the expense of a negative result.

 

[Alo88]

I can't see how this is Conceicao's fault honestly. Yes, some of his starting choices are questionable, but we're talking about 1-2 players per game, not 9. The presence/absence of Musah/Felix is not the reason why we suck cock in defense and eat shit in offense until a few subs are done. And then once these subs are done (may not even include the questionable starters) we simply start playing football. Pressing starts working relatively fine, we stop conceding dumb mistakes and start creating a decent amount of chances. I have no explanation for it, but I don't think it is up to Conceicao. He has said numerous times that what we show on the field is not what they train at Milanello. And once some click happens (lucky goal or a sub) they switch their chips back to professional mode and we start playing football.

To be honest, I can’t explain it either. No one can. If Conceicao had the answer, he’d use it in a heartbeat.

I fully agree that squad selection can’t be the core issue. Like I said – the pattern is always the same, no matter who starts, no matter in what position.

But where I disagree is this idea that Conceicao carries no real blame. And this is coming from someone who’s usually harder on the players than most in this forum. I mean, if you make millions kicking a ball, in my naïve little world you don’t get to be a fragile flower just because the coach didn’t pick you or because you don’t have the balls to ask why you’re not starting.

Still – match preparation is the coach’s responsibility. And if we go behind in 8 out of 13 games, often looking completely lost for entire halves, playing like we just rolled out of bed and have zero clue why we’re even on a pitch… then yes, the players deserve criticism. But so does the coach who can’t seem to reach them, can’t motivate them, and – most worryingly – keeps failing to find the tactical key to unlock these games.

That is a big problem.

Maybe Conceicao isn’t as good a coach as we thought, even if he spent 10 years at Porto showing he can prepare a team to fight toe-to-toe with just about anyone on the big CL stage. Or maybe we’re simply dealing with a squad that’s run its course. Too many players who’ve reached the end of their Milan cycle, who just don’t have the spark or hunger anymore – the kind you need to go out and beat even a mid-table Parma away – or simply aren't good enough (Chuck, Musah and so forth).

Whatever the case, something’s broken. And right now, neither the players nor the coach seem capable of fixing it.

 

[pippofan]

The penalty critique club, should make themselves available 24/7 in case Milan or any nation need someone with the “cojones” to take a penalty.

Seeing as their balls are so big they need a wheelbarrow to carry them around.

Maldini was smart enough to know that he wasn't a good penalty taker so didn't for the good of the team sacrificing a chance to score. That's practically heroic showing he wasn't after personal glory.
In 1994 both Baresi and Baggio missed penalties that allowed Brazil to win the World Cup.

 

[Rickaka]

Gullit and van Basten shat on the current Milan project and owners on Dutch TV, saying the club no langer has it's soul
Gullit said he wouldn't even know who to call if he ever wanted to connect with someone at Milan

 

[IL-Capitano]

When they play in pink and purple, mint green and grey, or rip off Portugal kits, how do you expect the players to even know what historic shirt they're respecting?

Playing home games in so many non-milan jerseys really shows where our priorities are and what sort of mind set sections of the fan base have.

The history books won't ever 2nd, 5th or 9th, but we will remember winning that one Scudetto that one time... The previous 18 really are a distant memory that many are only aware of through Google.

We're an embarrassment at this point...

Ah but identity and winning are boring aren’t they ? And the Red and Black home strip of Milan is for old men stuck in the past. Who needs to acknowledge history or identity.

No no let’s go with a bubble gum strip and multiple experimental jerseys instead because that’s more marketable or profitable than the team winning games, Serie A titles or Champions League titles.

It’s sad really that anyone would celebrate or embrace the idea of casting out everything that made Milan what it was.

A club that drew people from around the world and turned them into complete fanatics. Silvio would be spinning in his grave. The worst thing is Gerry and his yes men are going to inflict further damage on Milan. Yet again.

 

[Alo88]

My impression too.

Ibra's latest statements worry me though. I have no idea how he fits in with the Paratici course of action.

They don't worry me though. He talked without saying anything – which is more of a confirmation that some thing's brewing than not.

"We are good, but if we can do something, we'll do it, we'll see."

From the top of my head. Don't admit anything. But don't say something that later looks like you were lying. Keep the doors in all directions open.

 

[MilanBG]

To be honest, I can’t explain it either. No one can. If Conceicao had the answer, he’d use it in a heartbeat.

I fully agree that squad selection can’t be the core issue. Like I said – the pattern is always the same, no matter who starts, no matter in what position.

But where I disagree is this idea that Conceicao carries no real blame. And this is coming from someone who’s usually harder on the players than most in this forum. I mean, if you make millions kicking a ball, in my naïve little world you don’t get to be a fragile flower just because the coach didn’t pick you or because you don’t have the balls to ask why you’re not starting.

Still – match preparation is the coach’s responsibility. And if we go behind in 8 out of 13 games, often looking completely lost for entire halves, playing like we just rolled out of bed and have zero clue why we’re even on a pitch… then yes, the players deserve criticism. But so does the coach who can’t seem to reach them, can’t motivate them, and – most worryingly – keeps failing to find the tactical key to unlock these games.

That is a big problem.

Maybe Conceicao isn’t as good a coach as we thought, even if he spent 10 years at Porto showing he can prepare a team to fight toe-to-toe with just about anyone on the big CL stage. Or maybe we’re simply dealing with a squad that’s run its course. Too many players who’ve reached the end of their Milan cycle, who just don’t have the spark or hunger anymore – the kind you need to go out and beat even a mid-table Parma away – or simply aren't good enough (Chuck, Musah and so forth).

Whatever the case, something’s broken. And right now, neither the players nor the coach seem capable of fixing it.

Like I said when we appointed him, I am not sure if the situation is ideal for him. He can play elite football and challenge everyone in CL even with very limited resources, but he needs time. I can't blame him when he inherited a completely broken team with no identity, 'stars' with childish mentality and behavior and poor fitness condition. This is not something you fix on the go with unlimited pressure on your shoulders. He is the type of coach who needs a whole season (probably) down the drain and mercato based on his football to deliver. Probably a bad fit for an interim coach on the hot seat. Apparently the army method doesn't work with our primadonnas. We probably needed a hipster to puff shisha with them at half time and play Fortnite with them after 'work'

 

[IL-Capitano]

Maldini was smart enough to know that he wasn't a good penalty taker so didn't for the good of the team sacrificing a chance to score. That's practically heroic showing he wasn't after personal glory.
In 1994 both Baresi and Baggio missed penalties that allowed Brazil to win the World Cup.

Exactly the fact that his critics cannot understand this basic idea shows just how little they know about playing actual football in a team with one of these

Because playing FIFA on your games console doesn’t count.

 

[Hitchens]

They don't worry me though. He talked without saying anything – which is more of a confirmation that some thing's brewing than not.

"We are good, but if we can do something, we'll do it, we'll see."

From the top of my head. Don't admit anything. But don't say something that later looks like you were lying. Keep the doors in all directions open.

The squad is obviously a mess without chemistry, but I do think we could turn stuff around with someone like Paratici and a new coach. I've lost attachment to any of the players, so I'm down for most types of change. Our supposed flag bearers have shown to be anything but, even though I do think Leao receives much too much flak from the usual crowd. A year zero with some hope feels like a missing friend at this point, this season has been a sufferfest.

The stuff I'm left with clinging hope to is that we'll provide at least some entertainment against Atalanta. Gives me a bad taste in the mouth that we ended up going the whole family to a game this season, but I guess standing outside San Siro will eliminate any bad feelings. It is our church after all.

 

[Milan2012]

This is why a coach change mid season is risky. Fonseca has been vindicated.

 

[Milan2012]

Paratici was a dumbass who got caught. Dumb choices all around.

 

[kevin_dk]

The first thing to do is to rid of Ibra and Moncada. They have had more than enough time to fuck things up here at Milan. The coaches and the players they picked, and the players they let go, almost all the decisions they made have turned out to be disastrous. Maldini who brought in CDK was fired and has been ridiculed until this day. How about the same treatment to the two dickheads above?

Cardinale and Furlani are utter shit but they do not have a choice but stay for now. Let them stay and let us have another shit season and then shit will full on hit the fan next summer for sure.

A new SD will arrive and he will bring with him a new coach + a new technical director.

Ibra please fuck off. Moncada please fuck off.

 

[rossonero1]

Maldini's wife remembers the Scudetto winning team on Instagram with a post that reads: "This is the real Milan"

 

[MilanBG]

Maldini's wife remembers the Scudetto winning team on Instagram with a post that reads: "This is the real Milan"

That bitch

 

[Caladan]

That bitch

What is wrong. She is right.

 

[ymsv]

Ah but identity and winning are boring aren’t they ? And the Red and Black home strip of Milan is for old men stuck in the past. Who needs to acknowledge history or identity.

No no let’s go with a bubble gum strip and multiple experimental jerseys instead because that’s more marketable or profitable than the team winning games, Serie A titles or Champions League titles.

It’s sad really that anyone would celebrate or embrace the idea of casting out everything that made Milan what it was.

A club that drew people from around the world and turned them into complete fanatics. Silvio would be spinning in his grave. The worst thing is Gerry and his yes men are going to inflict further damage on Milan. Yet again.

Seasons are more entertaining like now . Starting good , then bad , then everybody is expecting things to get better , then for a while that is the case , then bad again , then worse , then good , then bad , ...
It is not a boring winning of everything like a Real or some other clubs .

 

[Inas]

Free agent David would still cost 34m for Juventus, Inter or Barcelona
by Football Italia
Signing Jonathan David in the summer would cost €34m, even if the striker is technically available as a free agent. Sky Sport CH claims Juventus are ‘slightly ahead’ of their competitors in the race to sign the Canada international.

Sky Sport CH has reported David’s salary demands to a Premier League club, revealing that the Lille forward’s entourage has demanded a €9m-a-year salary plus a €15m signing bonus and commission fees around €10m.

This means the transfer package for the 25-year-old would be €34m. David is technically available on a free transfer as his contract with Lille expires in June, but any interested suitor will have to pay quite a hefty fee to secure his signature over the summer.

 

[Correctamundo]

Maldini was smart enough to know that he wasn't a good penalty taker so didn't for the good of the team sacrificing a chance to score. That's practically heroic showing he wasn't after personal glory.
In 1994 both Baresi and Baggio missed penalties that allowed Brazil to win the World Cup.

4th taker...

 

[Tantalis]

4th taker...

Incredibly brave to take a pen knowing that it's not his responsibility as a defender and having admitted he's not great at them.

 

[IL-Capitano]

Seasons are more entertaining like now . Starting good , then bad , then everybody is expecting things to get better , then for a while that is the case , then bad again , then worse , then good , then bad , ...
It is not a boring winning of everything like a Real or some other clubs .

 

[Tantalis]

Seasons are more entertaining like now . Starting good , then bad , then everybody is expecting things to get better , then for a while that is the case , then bad again , then worse , then good , then bad , ...
It is not a boring winning of everything like a Real or some other clubs .

The only thing entertaining is the commode during banter eras because of all the fully dest posters and the rest of us that are only half dest.

 

[Pigeon]

Maldini's wife remembers the Scudetto winning team on Instagram with a post that reads: "This is the real Milan"

 

[IL-Capitano]

Seasons are more entertaining like now . Starting good , then bad , then everybody is expecting things to get better , then for a while that is the case , then bad again , then worse , then good , then bad , ...
It is not a boring winning of everything like a Real or some other clubs .

Gerry or Giorgio which ever one of ye has hacked ymsv’s account. It is very impolite to do this and eavesdrop on these conversations. Stop it now.

Oh and can you stop ruining Milan. Or better yet find another club to ruin, maybe inter Milan burn them to the ground if you like.

Thank you in advance