The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

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After weeks of hesitation, Furlani has given the green light to Tare to negotiate for Dusan Vlahovic. On one condition: the transfer fee must not exceed 10M. Not only that. The salary should undergo a significant cut to reduce it by half.

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Cocklani showing balls lel

But I agree with this.

10 mil for a player on his last year at his monstrous wages is fine
 

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So we basically funded Brighton's move for De Cuyper by buying their LB
Tare, you fucking clown
Bro, what the fuck?

Why do you care about De Cuyper? Dude is 24 y.o. playing (till now) in a fodder league. Estupinan plays against the best players in the world. As I said earlier, even though he is not the best in the world, he will bring something new in this team, like tons of experience.
 
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De cuyper fixation so weird

Milan went for an established player at the top level for years over a prospect who’s yet to make the jump and has so many questions

Is that not what everyone complains about?
It’s as if people don’t understand we are aiming to win now.
 
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You think Bennacer, Origi, and Adli are bigger fuck-ups than... Chuk? Emerson Royal? Okafor? Morata? Lol, what? Messias outperformed Chuk.

Fonseca is the biggest fucking moron that was... hired by who? The bygone era or the current owners?

Musah we can clearly sell for solid money? Wake me up when we actually sell him. Let's see what amazing deal Besiktas gives us for Emerson Royal. Morata is a financially positive deal? Do we get to factor in performances here when it comes to what is financially positive? You don't want to bring up Okafor? Pavlovic who can't mark an attacker to save his life?

And Walker and Felix--they didn't cost money? We paid money for Felix, and paid his salary, or am I wrong? Sottil didn't cost us money? Terra didn't cost us money? Bondo didn't cost us money? How do they not matter--we put money into players that didn't help us.

Let me use Bondo to explain my point: we paid 10m for Bondo when we needed a midfielder to help Fofana and Reijnders. Musah was terrible, RLC was injured the entire year, and so we spent 10m on Bondo, who was also injured, which hurt our sporting performances. Can you see why I don't agree with your point that these transfers don't matter?

Their choices are financially irresponsible, because they severely impact performance. We just lost 100m from missing out on the CL--because of this ownership's choices. They chose to put Moncada in charge, without a license. They did not think it was smart to hire an actual SD, that they didn't need one. They also chose not to hire a serious coach, when many were available, including Allegri who they hired now. They chose to hire Fonseca who you describe as "the biggest fucking moron." They interviewed him, nodded along with what he said, and then gave him money to run this team into the ground. This ownership hired Ibra and let him make choices like bring in Kivorski, who has no experience in Italy, at all, to head up out Futuro project and got them relegated--was that a good financial decision? Instead of keeping Abate, Ibra fired him (and his father)--was that a good financial decision?

They have moved on from players who aren't working out? What? So why is Chuk still here? Why did we let Kalulu go, to go buy Emerson Royal? We pushed out Adli for Musah? We loaned out Saelemaekers and relied on Okafor? The players who want to be here, who want to fight for this team, like Saelemaekers, like Adli, like Kalulu, those are the players that are problem? Okafor who couldn't stop eating, he wasn't a problem last year? For all the complaints about professionalism, Okafor doesn't raise a question about it?

And at the end of the day: they lost 100m in revenue by getting 8th place, because they made choices based on ego. Whether it was firing Abate, keeping Chuk, buying Emerson Royal, going after Felix and going 424, etc the decisions made by this ownership have been capricious and rooted in shifting blame, avoiding accountability, and for personal vanity.

That's the definition of financial irresponsibility.
You are picking and choosing your arguments with a hindsight of 20/20 all the while putting all the blame on the management. Ofc every transfer that doesnt work out costs money. How is that even an argument?

And its managements fault that Okafor is fat? Come on. Its managements fault that Fonseca decided to play an already sold player and risk it? Its managements fault that Theo punched a woman and lost his mind? Please.

Also when we signed Okafor, Chuck, Pavlo and alike almost everyone here was excited about the signings. You can talk now how they were bad choices but at the time of the transfer it for sure didnt feel this way. Tell me who you felt was an obvious wrong choice at the time?

Im not even gonna debate this Adli, always injured Kalulu or sekemeker, as if they would move a needle in the long run. Adli couldnt convince 3 coaches that he can play and there isnt a club in Serie A that would pick up a Sekemeker option. Spare me with this talk how they are the moral standard and that they want to be here. Adli is clearly blocking a 14mil move that would help the club and Sekemeker would be at Roma if they would pay up.

And as for Origi situation? There isnt a player on this team that is as big as a fuck up as Origi. His contract is so bad that it is impossible to get out of it. It just might be the worst contract in the world of football atm. He refuses to practice, he refuses to move teams, he refuses to cut his salary. The dude refuses to be a professional footballer. And its his right, because the contract is SO BAD that it enables him to do that.
 
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Are you illiterate in sarcasm?
You're saying we funded De Cuyper..which is nonsense. They bought him first. And they could've easily afforded him without us buying Estupinan.
We still funded him by buying their old LB
They bought a younger more exciting LB and dumped their old one on us
All because Tare was so obsessed with Foddershari that he missed out on De Cuyper

It's time to stop coping
 
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De cuyper fixation so weird

Milan went for an established player at the top level for years over a prospect who’s yet to make the jump and has so many questions

Is that not what everyone complains about?
Brighton is top level? :lol:
If he was so good why are Brighton selling him and getting De Cuyper for 3 million more?
The cope is insane
 

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Vlachovic now and a new left winger to replace Okafor. Leao with Estupinan on the left, plus a new good winger to rotate with the first, is pretty decent.

Rb is not our biggest issue if we don't have money. Salaemakers and Jimenez are ok. Unless Chukhueze is sold and Salaemakers rotate with Pulisic.

I find more important the signing of a creative midfielder and 2 CBs. Leoni plus a grandpa with experience. Thiaw and Pavlovic are Como material.
 
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Bro, what the fuck?

Why do you care about De Cuyper? Dude is 24 y.o. playing (till now) in a fodder league. Estupinan plays against the best players in the world. As I said earlier, even though he is not the best in the world, he will bring something new in this team, like tons of experience.
Why did Brighton sell this fodder to us for 17m and buy De Cuyper for 20m?
 

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Now people are ok with Vlahofodder coming.
This is how mgmt always gets Milan fans.
They do fuck all for a month in mercato and then fans get desperate and accept any trash they previously never wanted.
 

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Now people are ok with Vlahofodder coming.
This is how mgmt always gets Milan fans.
They do fuck all for a month in mercato and then fans get desperate and accept any trash they previously never wanted.
While this is partly true, considering the circumstances (clowns in management and ownership) we will be fine with the so far and rumored signings.
 

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Now people are ok with Vlahofodder coming.
This is how mgmt always gets Milan fans.
They do fuck all for a month in mercato and then fans get desperate and accept any trash they previously never wanted.

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We get it, everyone is fodder.

Any fodder in this XI?

Name some players you want.

Who do you want at RB?
Who do you want at CB?
Who do you want at ST?

Because if Vlaho is fodder, everyone else we've been linked to must be too.. Mateta surely is. Estupinan is because he played at Brighton. Palace are even worse. So by that logic, Guehi and Eze must be.
 
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Why did Brighton sell this fodder to us for 17m and buy De Cuyper for 20m?
It's not always about math.

Scenario number 1: Maybe Estupinan said "I'm leaving, I want a new experience, the best club of all time knocks on my door".

Scenario number 2: Maybe Brighton is run by stupid clowns as well.
 
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First Ecuadorian player?

Yah.

De cuyper fixation so weird

Milan went for an established player at the top level for years over a prospect who’s yet to make the jump and has so many questions

Is that not what everyone complains about?

A prospect who sucks at defending :g:

If the kid isn't played at wingback, he's going to get eaten alive in the premier.
 
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Vlachovic now and a new left winger to replace Okafor. Leao with Estupinan on the left, plus a new good winger to rotate with the first, is pretty decent.

Rb is not our biggest issue if we don't have money. Salaemakers and Jimenez are ok. Unless Chukhueze is sold and Salaemakers rotate with Pulisic.

I find more important the signing of a creative midfielder and 2 CBs. Leoni plus a grandpa with experience. Thiaw and Pavlovic are Como material.
Alexis is better on the left than he is the right... He can be the back up to Leao.
If Okafor goes, we aren't buying a replacement. It's Chuk that needs to leave.
As I see it right now, Okafor is deputy to Gimenez.
 
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It's not always about math.

Scenario number 1: Maybe Estupinan said "I'm leaving, I want a new experience, the best club of all time knocks on my door".

Scenario number 2: Maybe Brighton is run by stupid clowns as well.
Sure it is.
It's clear that Brighton think De Cuyper is a better player and if Estu was that good then a midtable club like that wouldn't waste money trying to buy another player to replace him.

Estupinan is a panic buy from Tare, let's face it.
Missed out on De Cuyper and then on Archie Brown.
His signing reminds me of Galliani banter-era signings.
 

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Estupinan looks promising looking at these stats.

Doesn't offer Theo's progressive carries (which is kind of Theo's trademark) and xAssist, but otherwise looks much better defensive wise and adds a lot on crossing part (although this will depend on our playstyle which isolates Leao on left instead of crossing to CF)
 
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Sure it is.
It's clear that Brighton think De Cuyper is a better player and if Estu was that good then a midtable club like that wouldn't waste money trying to buy another player to replace him.

Estupinan is a panic buy from Tare, let's face it.
Missed out on De Cuyper and then on Archie Brown.
His signing reminds me of Galliani banter-era signings.
Had we signed De Cuyper or Brown - I'd understand hearing more pessimist posts.

Estupinan - even the biggest pessimists can't really find reason to moan.

Brown - "A chelsea reject from Belgium that no other team from a top European club wanted"
De Cuyper - "For that amount we could've got ... Guy is 24 and still stuck in Belgium"

I'm not saying that - but I'm sure we would've heard people saying this.

You're the only one hating on Estupinan - Do you know something everyone else doesn't.

And tell me the players you want in all the positions we need... I want a good laugh.

Obviously Vlahovic isn't good enough to compete with Gimenez for you..
 
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Estupinan looks promising looking at these stats.

Doesn't offer Theo's progressive carries (which is kind of Theo's trademark) and xAssist, but otherwise looks much better defensive wise and adds a lot on crossing part (although this will depend on our playstyle which isolates Leao on left instead of crossing to CF)

I've seen him play for a seasons and I was impressed with what he offers. Actually, last season was probably Pervis' worst season.

He actually does provide very good attacking football, and I expect him to provide 6-10 assists this season and probably 3-4 goals.
 
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Maldinisti vs Gerry Armada is Tony Stark vs Captain America. Past it and should be forgotten
 

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De cuyper fixation so weird

Milan went for an established player at the top level for years over a prospect who’s yet to make the jump and has so many questions

Is that not what everyone complains about?
The huge red flag on De Cuyper was last season when Chukwueze completely skinned him in Milan - Bruges. Not even those average 30 year old veteran Serie A fullbacks had such difficulties playing vs Chukwu.
 
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After weeks of hesitation, Furlani has given the green light to Tare to negotiate for Dusan Vlahovic. On one condition: the transfer fee must not exceed 10M. Not only that. The salary should undergo a significant cut to reduce it by half.

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So it begins.

How do you rate the prospective signing of Vlahovic?
 
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List of positions we still need, in order:

1) CM - Jashari
2) ST - pure number 9
3) RB - starting quality

4) If possible, a back-up LB & loan Barthesaghi out for experience.
 

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