The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

[grandeacm2]

hec mos na tesh karin fort. Po folish mire per shkavin e leshit, amo knena gjakin ton , lojtarin ton pe shajsh.

Trus bothen o ti fmi i pergazte
Nese e don Xhaken te Millano nuk je fans i vertete i Millanos

Shqiptari tulifare muti e livdon veq qe o Shqiptar

 

[Dokoa]

Yeah I bet Nico Paz is dying of exitement to play with Granit

Ja honksh guxhen e karit Granitit ti edhe shkinat e tua

 

[Alo88]

Are we trying to replace Inter as Serie A's oldest team? We'd go from a youth project to a retirement home.

People wanted Allegri. The fans. Pundits. Journalists. Everyone was screaming for either Conte or Allegri last summer.

Well, I warned you guys. Be careful what you wish for.

If people wanted a long-term project, a cycle, based on youth and champagne football à la what Fabregas is doing with Como, then well, don't ask for the likes of Conte and Allegri and bring a lot of patience because we'd risk to miss out on Top 4 again short-term.

Now it's Allegri, people got what they wanted – with all its pros and, yes, contras too.

 

[Berisha1997]

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the translation is so bad bro

 

[ymsv]

Or....
Instead of buying / getting 10 shit players....we could buy two good ones
Hear me out.

I know it sounds crazy....but hear me out.
Instead of getting BOTH Emerson and Kyle Walker....we could have gotten one decent RB

Instead of getting Morata Gimenez AND Tammy and now going after Mitrovic... We could have gotten David

We sold Saele and Messias and got Chuck. We could have just kept Saele
Etc

That is a different problem . In retrospective is easy to say what was wrong or right .
Unfortunately that moment we needed actually not two but " ten " players . Not surprisingly some of them did not work here .
Mentioned ones , Saele , Messias were not a part of Pioli plan , the dribbling way we were playing was suitable for Chuck .
Emerson came as a competition to Calabria and benched him . Walker was negotiated under loan as an urgent alternative to Emerson , since obviously Calabria was not part of the coach plan anymore . Unfortunately Emerson also became injured .
Gimenez can not be judged as a fail yet , since he was fine bearing in mind that he came mid season to a different league in a struggling team and also get injured . At least according to one interview he was the only one who was coming early morning for a training . That is something .
David is a puzzling case , since the rich clubs are ready to invest a lot in a good striker and yet the only rumored club is Napoli . Obviously there is something we do not know .
Tammy was under loan as an alternative to Morata . Morata was a Fonseca requirement , probably with the idea that we will play with more passing between players . And was sort of working except that he never was a scorer but the one who is opening the way for it . Unfortunately our players can not exploit the opened in such way spaces .
We could probably do better that that , but with the funds we have , not by much . It is easier to say it , than to do it .

 

[leaf]

I'd love for them to go bankrupt but I don't think I ever said they would be. I said they've built their empire by betting and leveraging their future. They've done amazing work on the sporting side and as a result have mostly won that bet. I've also been very clear that the only way Inter the club will be fucked by Suning is if there was a legal obligation for Oaktree to pay them the fair value of the club, which some reports said they had to. If not, then Inter were the big winners in the Suning fiasco; they got the Chinese to finance two scudetti and two UCL finals and then piss off with most of the debt. What happened to them over the last few years was extremely risky but it paid off, mostly because of Marotta, Conte and Inzaghi.

Right now, we're going to see the start of the Oaktree rebuild. They clearly said that they want to downsize and reduce costs. That's going to hurt. It would have been less painful with Inzaghi still in charge, or another capable coach... but taking a risk on someone like Chivu at this crucial step might be exactly what breaks them.

In any case, we should only worry about ourselves. We managed to really fuck them over by getting Allegri early, and without any European commitments next year we should aim to win the title and erase the disastrous previous season. That's the only acceptable redemption for what happened. I would have liked a coach that could rebuild the team in his image for the long term, but it looks like we want to win now. They sensed the opportunity to do that and took decisive action.

I still hope we manage to keep Maignan and of course everyone else that's important. Theo can fuck off. Then rebuild the defense, get a few important midfieders like Modric and Xhaka, and we can really look forward to a great season.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Yeah I bet Nico Paz is dying of exitement to play with Granit

Never say never

 

[grandeacm2]

O leje o Berish se so shqiptar. Mu kon i joni skish shkru ksi sene. Hiqju tina

Ok, imigranti ne Angli
Ju me patriotizmin e juve na lodhet bothen

 

[Curupira]

the translation is so bad bro

I figured.

I've been trying to follow along, I am interested in how Albanians feel about Xhaka.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

200 premier league appearences, 192 times starter for them. Playing in the best league.

With leverkusen 90 appearences, 86 times starter.

Arteta with big budget preferred him all the years.
Xabi Alonso loved him.

Look im not trying to say that Xhaka is the solution, but talking his a shit player is the most paradox thing haha.

Xhaka was good
But it’s a little late now I feel
But he still has quality

 

[Curupira]

Ok, imigranti ne Angli

I felt that one even without the translations

 

[Berisha1997]

Trus bothen o ti fmi i pergazte
Nese e don Xhaken te Millano nuk je fans i vertete i Millanos

Shqiptari tulifare muti e livdon veq qe o Shqiptar

o burri botes, un nuk jam te than, qe jam te dasht granitin me pas ne ekip. Po du me than qe, ski as ni far pik arsye me shajt atan. Se qka ka arrit aj, respekt duhet mi dhan.

Edhe ti i fundit je o njeri, qe na kallxon neve ktu, kush asht tifoz i vertete e kush nuk asht.

Tungatjeta

 

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That is a different problem . In retrospective is easy to say what was wrong or right .
Unfortunately that moment we needed actually not two but " ten " players . Not surprisingly some of them did not work here .
Mentioned ones , Saele , Messias were not a part of Pioli plan , the dribbling way we were playing was suitable for Chuck .
Emerson came as a competition to Calabria and benched him . Walker was negotiated under loan as an urgent alternative to Emerson , since obviously Calabria was not part of the coach plan anymore . Unfortunately Emerson also became injured .
Gimenez can not be judged as a fail yet , since he was fine bearing in mind that he came mid season to a different league in a struggling team and also get injured . At least according to one interview he was the only one who was coming early morning for a training . That is something .
David is a puzzling case , since the rich clubs are ready to invest a lot in a good striker and yet the only rumored club is Napoli . Obviously there is something we do not know .
Tammy was under loan as an alternative to Morata . Morata was a Fonseca requirement , probably with the idea that we will play with more passing between players . And was sort of working except that he never was a scorer but the one who is opening the way for it . Unfortunately our players can not exploit the opened in such way spaces .
We could probably do better that that , but with the funds we have , not by much . It is easier to say it , than to do it .

Excuses huh?

 

[Alo88]

I think we are going back to the formula of experience wins the scudetto. Ibra, Giroud, kjaer.

I believe we'll try to mix experience and guts with youth, and right now, what we don't have, is experience and guts.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Can Tare bring Dua lipa to Milan. Get her to sing some shit and promote milan

Needs to go viral dawg.

 

[ymsv]

Because we got stuck with fucking Elliott who are greedy scumbags and ask for too much money to sell and asks for weird ass loans.
Otherwise an oil Sheikh would have swooped us by now. It’s not that there is no interest in Milan, but Elliott is making it impossible for others to buy us.
In fact we were one of the first clubs they wanted to buy 20 years ago for 1 billion but Berlusca refused.

I do not have an insider information regarding potential buyers , but from what is reported there was no rich oil sheikhs queueing to buy us even after we bankrupted with the Chinese owner .

 

[SpartanMilan]

What’s so funny?
Isco is actually a world class player who has won CL and World Cup and Euros, is kicking ass in La Liga and actually captaineda and led a team like Betis to a European final
This is what a real leader is

’’Hey Granit, what are your qualifications? What have you won in your career that makes you think you can lead Milan’’
’’E-e-rm I was captain of Arsenal once a-and won FA Cup a c-couple of times’’

Give me a break what a fucking bum

Lol, Isco has never been a top 5 player on any of those Madrid or Spain teams, but I will concede that his leadership was amazing as his team got their teeth kicked in during the Conference League finals lol

Xhaha was arguably the best player on Leverkusen's domestic double team, and breaking Bayern's 11 year streak of winning the Bundesliga is a more notable achievement that Isco being a cog in the Madrid machine

For the record, I don't want either, I just think its a wild to discount Xhaha's achievements while calling Isco world class

 

[brk]

Xhaka was good
But it’s a little late now I feel
But he still has quality

We're going to be playing 38 serie a games, one or two supercoppa games, and potentially 6 coppa italia games. That's it. Almost every week this season will have just one game. We have plenty of time to rest and train. We still have 5 subs. It's the perfect season to have a bunch of old guys to help mentor the young guys and teach them how to be professionals.

 

[papaberlu]

People wanted Allegri. The fans. Pundits. Journalists. Everyone was screaming for either Conte or Allegri last summer.

Well, I warned you guys. Be careful what you wish for.

If people wanted a long-term project, a cycle, based on youth and champagne football à la what Fabregas is doing with Como, then well, don't ask for the likes of Conte and Allegri and bring a lot of patience because we'd risk to miss out on Top 4 again short-term.

Now it's Allegri, people got what they wanted – with all its pros and, yes, contras too.

This is a lazy take. Allegri wasn't my first choice, I thought they should use this chance without European football to build a foundation for the long term but I understand the desperation

Fundamentally, Allegri is a company man. He'll do whatever he's is tasked with. I linked an article a few days ago covering how he launched so many Juve next gen players and his emphasis on developing the future of Italian football. He managed to achieve top 4 and be competitive for the Scudetto for long periods while achieving this

He's gonna play in a pragmatic manner but he won't stunt the youth

I don't have to explain the importance of figures like Modric and Xhaka, it certainly won't hurt the youth joining/already at the club

 

[brk]

I believe we'll try to mix experience and guts with youth, and right now, what we don't have, is experience and guts.

Experience, guys and players with a history of winning.

 

[Papa_midnight]

Vlahovic should at best be a small transfer that doesn’t get much talk
But the fact is we sign Vlahovic he would be a big transfer/starter for Milan and that just depreciates the brand of Milan and nothing else
This idiotic ownership just don’t get it
Milan should be built for Champions League not for Serie A

What are the big transfers u want if u dont mind me asking?

 

[grandeacm2]

Its not Milan of 2005 mate. Are really expecting to sign a world class midfielder under Cardinale? Xhaka is a quality player like him or not. If Tare manages to sign him with plausible price that would be great.

And I will complain until it is the Milan of 2005 again.
I will NEVER accept this trash. I will complain until my dying breath.
Why? Because it costs nothing to complain anyways and I am watching this trash team and ownership destroying my beloved club season in season out anyways and even pay for the sports subcriptions and stuff even though I could just pirate stream for free.

So I will bitch and complain and won’t sugarcoat things.

 

[brk]

This is a lazy take. Allegri wasn't my first choice, I thought they should use this chance without European football to build a foundation for the long term but I understand the desperation

Fundamentally, Allegri is a company man. He'll do whatever he's is tasked with. I linked an article a few days ago covering how he launched so many Juve next gen players and his emphasis on developing the future of Italian football. He managed to achieve top 4 and be competitive for the Scudetto for long periods while achieving this

He's gonna play in a pragmatic manner but he won't stunt the youth

I don't have to explain the importance of figures like Modric and Xhaka, it certainly won't hurt the youth joining/already at the club

I have a feeling Camarda will have a breakout season, as well as continuing the development of Jimenez.

 

[Curupira]

I believe we'll try to mix experience and guts with youth, and right now, what we don't have, is experience and guts.

Experience in a winning system, ie Modric.

Not some journeyman like Kjaer, I'm surprised people bring him up as some sort of leadership. Bro was constantly fucking up yet blaming others and in the media talking about wanting more playing time when he was hot garbage. He was solid experience for a bit, but we kicked the can down the road and tried to gamble on him being able to maintain that form after ACL surgery and he was ass for us after

 

[Alo88]

200 premier league appearences, 192 times starter for them. Playing in the best league.

With leverkusen 90 appearences, 86 times starter.

Arteta with big budget preferred him all the years.
Xabi Alonso loved him.

Look im not trying to say that Xhaka is the solution, but talking his a shit player is the most paradox thing haha.

Exactly.

I'm not saying he's prime Pirlo. No one is. But he brings a lot to the table we lack and amongst the non-fantasy-names thrown around, he's definitely seirous calcio and damn, how can someone even compare him to Montofodder? Just compare their career trajectories and who coached them and chose them to be captain of their teams...

Or to say Shaqiri is the better player because he was Bayerns Chukwueze at one point in his career like 10 years ago.

Mamma mia.

 

[LemonCookies]

what have albanians to do with kebab? goat fucking back water country?

I bet you never been to Albania.
Where are you from?

The home state of Alexa Bliss

 

[LemonCookies]

@Curupira change your pfp plox

 

[ymsv]

Excuses huh?

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No . The reality .

As one of our genius hilarious politicians say it before " We are living in a time , where the reality is everywhere around us " . What a time to be alive .

 

[Pigeon]

Are we trying to replace Inter as Serie A's oldest team? We'd go from a youth project to a retirement home.

because we bought 3 +30yo?

my god, you guys are such cry babys

i rather have these 3 than young 'talented' shitters like musah, thiaw, jimenez

 

[grandeacm2]

What are the big transfers u want if u dont mind me asking?

Obvious ones would be Mbappe, Haaland, Yamal etc.
Then you have guys like Gyokeres, Barcola, the other guy from PSG would be nice

In general I dont have a strong preference
I just want Milan to compete for the hottest most popular World Class mid-20s players in the world with the rest of the top clubs and not just buy Serie A trash and 3rd-rate players like Xhaka

I also wouldn’t mind signing one of Isco/Griezmann because they are marketable it would bolster our credibility