The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

[amanmilan]

Cash + Coman is actually a great option.

Or Kim he knows the league he was epic. He would be great for us

 

[nonsonoqui]

I don’t think Leao will leave. Our asking price is high, and I think we ultimately want to keep him.

I also don’t think he’s the guy to ask for a transfer.

Could be really wrong

 

[BreadPitt]

Cash + Coman is actually a great option.

Fantastic injury prone FC Coman LW Chiesa RW under the infamous Milan Lab

 

[Ryo]

I dont need to go back to read that post because I wasnt referring it. Maybe learn to read a little
we are reacting because we ve seen this shit before and we kinda know where it leads too.
nobody wants to think the worst of them, cause they are proving it each and every day.

Maybe learn to read before you write your responses buddy.
This above in response to my praising how smart the German Journalists are at pumping out bullshit reports to turn gullible fans against their own players.

And as mentioned, there was NO reports mentioning that Rafa had any desire to leave Milan.

So pray do tell what was your response about again?
Seems like I'm not the one with reading dyslexia.

 

[ymsv]

What is this Bargain price they speak of?

Competitive salary .

 

[Tantalis]

Sell furlani.

 

[Tantalis]

Or Kim he knows the league he was epic. He would be great for us

Kim brings hot Asians to San Siro.

 

[Ryo]

Competitive salary .

But that doesn't make sense. It says Gigio is available at a bargain price. That would imply lower than his current value.

Why would that be?

Edit: Nevermind, I found out why.

Swap him for Theo + 10M.
Too bad they'll reject it since they already have Nuno Mendes (the REAL top LB in the world).

 

[Alo88]

No to Gigio. He blew his chance.

That rat can stay where he is.

 

[Tantalis]

Give dollar everything he wants so he can free transfer to juve in 3 years and watch fans go I can't believe he would do that

 

[AndreiX]

Sell furlani.

 

[ymsv]

But that doesn't make sense. It says Gigio is available at a bargain price. That would imply lower than his current value.

Why would that be?

Edit: Nevermind, I found out why.
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Swap him for Theo + 10M.
Too bad they'll reject it since they already have Nuno Mendes (the REAL top LB in the world).

Probably ongoing negotiations . Similar to our situation . We could try to swap him for Mike .

 

[Tantalis]

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Fuck you gnomelani!

 

[Samaldinho]

Yes, we cannot compete against big spenders from the top 5 leagues, but we could have progressively come close if our management had some common sense.

All they had to do was upgrade Pioli last season while we were in CL, hire a proper SD- we were much attractive then, but no, they lacked vision and went for a short-term cheap fix in Fonseca and 0 SD and ended up paying more in the long run.

Milan is not a place for internship for those idiots for their trial and error. We had a decent squad last season but no SD and subpar coaches. I am afraid it will be the other way round this time.

I am trying to be optimistic but it is very difficult because of those toxic buffoons who are in charge - I hope to be proven wrong for the sake of the club.

We're not failing against the big spenders, like City or PSG, but against Italian clubs, not even Inter or Napoli but Fiorentina and Lazio.

They thought they were smarter than everyone and they have proven that they are incompetent.

They didn't think managers mattered, and they did not recognize how badly they did with transfers, because they did not have any direction or philosophy over what they were looking for--that's why we are now on revolution number four with these guys: (1) Pioli and the 433 in 23/24, (2) Fonseca last year, (3) Conceicao and the 424 with Felix in the winter, and now (4) Allegri and Tare.

My only hope is that their financial incentive to ensure Milan get top four (at least) after such a miserable failure will motivate them to get out of the way.

Long version:

If we were facing a failure in the CL, after facing PSG or City or Bayern, okay, fine, we don't have the financial power (yet) to compete with those clubs. Under the previous ownership, the growth of the club was impressive, and adding a stadium puts Milan roughly in non-oil club EPL territory. The stadium being a big "if" obviously.

Our ownership has failed to compete... in Italy. Against Inter, and Juve, or even Napoli, who we make much more money than. But worse yet? We aren't even able to out-perform Fiorentina, Atalanta, Lazio, Roma, teams we have far greater resources than, greater prestige, and we can pay more money to our players. I understand that we are behind a team like Liverpool but yes, we don't have that level of money, but, the failures of this ownership are stark by the standards of Serie A.

If Serie A is so shit, how badly do you have to fuck up to get an 8th placed finish? Mirabelli and Li got 6th.

It bears repeating why they messed up. They thought they were smarter than everyone. Their interviews with Harvard underlined this--and the fact that they were surprised it was leaked shows how naive (and/or foolish) they are. They rejected having any sort of SD or TD, they just put Moncada in the job, and all-of-a-sudden we no longer had Enzo, and Alvarez, and Mbappe, and Haaland, and all the other players that he would have gotten if not for the bastards who held him back--the ratio between a Reijnders is money wasted on Musah, Chuk, Okafor, Morata, Pavlovic, Emerson Royal, etc. It's as if you gave me the job, I can talk about the hidden gems I would have gotten all day while I get to conveniently forget that I wanted Renato Sanches.

The focus might be on Maldini, but did Furlani really have the experience to replace Gazidis? Did we replace Massara with anyone? Did we adequately replace other executives in marketing, sponsor relations, etc? We just lost people installed by Elliott and gave their deputies their jobs--look at who we replaced Casper Stylsvig with. We outsourced our decision making by going to Billy Beane and Zelus. Billy-fucking-Beane. Billy Beane who is applying his AZ and Barnsley experience to Milan? Redbird who used Toulouse as their trial-run?

Fonseca was not their "short-term" fix, they don't think managers matter. They are applying the idea prevalent in baseball that the manager is not that important, that analytics are more important--and perhaps in baseball that is correct, since the game is a series of discreet actions that can be isolated in comparison to football.

I remember last year when there was debate over who the next manager was, Suma saying something like (I'm paraphrasing) "that the name of the coach doesn't matter, but the players are more important" and that's when it hit me, they thought they just needed someone to run things--but ultimately, they had figured out how to identify undervalued assets. Their first transfer window in control, they saw Reijnders and Pulisic as homerun successes, but then it hit me, they thought RLC was a success, and they looked at Musah and Chuk as worthy of another season. They thought they figured it out. That's why we went after Pavlovic, Emerson Royal, Morata, Tammy--they thought they figured out how to identify value better than anyone. Why would managers be any different?

Fonseca might have been an undervalued manager in their eyes, or perhaps they figured he was proficient enough to reach the team's goals--Fonseca said the goal was a Scudetto, mind you.

It's always boggled my mind why we kept going 424 under this ownership, over and over and over again, regardless of how stupid it was--Conceicao just said fuck it and went 343. Are they even building a team that can function in a 424? Let's say Leao is lazy, okay fine, but is Okafor a pressing machine? No. Is Chuk? No. Who is the magical CAM or SS for this system? Felix?

The reality is that we are heading into our fourth revolution under them. Their first (attempted) revolution was the 433 with Pioli, which then went back to that 424 after the ass-blasting from Inter, and then they fired Pioli--dragging their feet on his firing over whether Pioli did well in the EL. Then they brought in Fonseca, who was not the sort of Italiano, De Zerbi, tactical video nerd type of manager, he was just... a guy. Did nothing special or noteworthy, so those pretending that Fonseca is in the same category as the hipster manager choices are incorrect. All Fonseca did was go to war with our best players like he did at Roma. The third revolution was with Conceicao this last winter, the off-brand Conte, who after seeing success in a 433 and stabilized our situation, then went (back) to the 424 with Felix and it failed, again. Why go 424 for the first time, against Feyenoord, away?

They have changed direction with Tare and Allegri. Did I swoon for Allegri? No. Do I look at Tare with heart eyes? No. But I recognize that they are fundamentally different characters to what came before, however, there is no way around the fact that Furlani is still CEO, that Moncada is still... whatever the hell he is, Ibra is still there, while Kirovski still has his job after getting Futuro relegated.

I worry if whether the current group of idiots who failed so miserably this year will get in the way of the new SD and coaching staff, even when they want to try to keep players like Leao or Mike.

 

[justhope]

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Maybe learn to read before you write your responses buddy.
This above in response to my praising how smart the German Journalists are at pumping out bullshit reports to turn gullible fans against their own players.

And as mentioned, there was NO reports mentioning that Rafa had any desire to leave Milan.

So pray do tell what was your response about again?
Seems like I'm not the one with reading dyslexia.

what dont you understand? is not that hard, but learn to read first..
I've said it clear that reports about his move to bayern have been circulating for weeks both from italy and germany,

and he may not leave this month, but considering the state of the club, i wouldnt bet money on him being here past next summer

 

[Samaldinho]

Donnaruma's PSxG this season was his worst at PSG at -3.3, in fact he had incredible save statistics during the years he was comically error-prone (errors which are in the stats) at PSG.

While at Milan with us (save for one season at +4.2 [18/19]) he was -2.1, -1.3, -1.3

This season Mike was -1.2

Just as a point of comparison.

Since we suddenly value PSxG as a metric.

 

[Ryo]

what dont you understand? is not that hard, but learn to read first..
I've said it clear that reports about his move to bayern have been circulating for weeks both from italy and germany,

and he may not leave this month, but considering the state of the club, i wouldnt bet money on him being here past next summer

Your response was not an answer to my initial message mate, THAT is where your reading comprehension comes into question.

Me:

Fans are already turning against him.
Just look at the state of this forum.
Goes to prove that fans who believe everything that is reported are a very naive and reactive bunch. These German journalists are so smart, turning fans against their own players.

Your response:


Ergo, you need to learn English reading comprehension. Your response to my comment made no sense. Ergo, go check your reading dyslexia mate. Worried for you.

 

[Curupira]

Or Kim he knows the league he was epic. He would be great for us

 

[justhope]

Your response was not an answer to my initial message mate, THAT is where your reading comprehension comes into question.

Me:


Your response:
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Ergo, you need to learn English reading comprehension. Your response to my comment made no sense.

you keep talking about reading comprehension and dislexia but it looks like you have those problems

my response was exactly to your message, I dont care what you were quoting.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

I wouldn´t mind a 60-70m package deal for Vlahovic and Gatti if it is true that they both want out of Juve.

I don’t want to fund rube though.

Maybe loan with option to buy for 30 mil for blahovic
And then 25 mil for gatti

 

[R.Akbar]

Saved by the failure of OTHER TEAM's accountants.

Aren't you glad that we aren't as financially unstable as those clubs,

Actually,

Of the orher’s team accountant is good, they should be able to not-filing for bankruptcy

 

[leaf]

So Leao, Theo, Mike, Chuks, Musah all bear no shred of responsibility for the sorry state of the club. All their stupidities, especially Leao and Theo, the antics, the terrible performance, all have no bearing on the club's current situation.

Thank you

I didn't say that.
Leao has some blame for us ending up where we did sure. No argument there.

But he didn't break the club. That was ALL management. On balance, he helped more than he hurt....even in this shit season.

And by the way Pulisic tends to only get praise when he does well....but he went missing a lot of the time. Does he get any blame?

 

[Ryo]

you keep talking about reading comprehension and dislexia but it looks like you have those problems

my response was exactly to your message, I dont care what you were quoting.

My message was about German Journalists being smart to bait gullible fans.
Your response

Does not seem to be a response to my message mate. If you cannot understand why I'm calling you out, I cannot help you.
I'll pray for your soul brother. Hopefully god will be able to sort out your confusion.

 

[sheva]

Xhaka has always turned like a 🛳 Modric started like half of Madrids game last season. And had runners in Vini Benz Rodrygo Bellingham Camavinga Valverde helping him out over the last few years. We have what? Cheap Temu knockoffs. They have another year in already old weary legs. Slow as in their reactions and sharpness isn't there. You need to surround these type of players with runners.



R&B have a history of being Nostalgia Cucks.


He's 39 years of age. 40 in September. He has over a 1000 professional games in legs.

Would you of married or picked your girlfriend or boyfriend if they told you they been nutted in by 100 different guys before you? Unless that's your sort of thing.

If my gf did this in the bedroom?

 

[rossonero1]

 

[Milan2012]

I dont know how yall get held hostage by bums that are pure ass. Mike Theo and Leao can and should leave.

Cant wait to see 3 more coaches leave because the club and fans have to take the side of a bum like Leao. That mf does not care about this club lol. He might go off at his next club but if you think we’ll anything with him you’re purely delusional.

 

[Dokoa]

what dont you understand? is not that hard, but learn to read first..
I've said it clear that reports about his move to bayern have been circulating for weeks both from italy and germany,

and he may not leave this month, but considering the state of the club, i wouldnt bet money on him being here past next summer

There is a difference between club wants to sell you and player wants to leave. Rafa is happy in Milan, but if a greedy owner wants to sell you then of course he will leave.

 

[Dokoa]

Loo

What the actual fuck?!

 

[ibelongtomilan]

Yeah let’s ditch the foreigners and bring in only Italians. I mean, just look at how amazing their NT is doing, oh wait...

 

[justhope]

My message was about German Journalists being smart to bait gullible fans.
Your response
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Does not seem to be a response to my message mate. If you cannot understand why I'm calling you out, I cannot help you.
I'll pray for your soul brother. Hopefully god will be able to sort out your confusion.

i am not sure if you re trolling, or maybe you are just a functional analphabet.

as I said in the initial posts, its not just from german journalists, so the fans are correct to be displeased. especially considering the bad state of the club.