The Rumour Commode XVII: A Condor In A Sea Of Red!

[AC_Wesley]

Deulofeu is good with giving through balls and dribbling. Makes many key passes. Hes bad at crossing and passing. Also defensive contribution is poor.

He does not dive into tackles.

 

[Mr Delicious]

Cazorla is not a regista. He's the most advanced mid of a midfield-three, or an attacker.
Playing in front of the defense is more than just ball distribution or playmaking. It would also be a waste to not have Cazorla closer to the goal.

In your head or in reality?

He plays in front of the defense and distributes the ball and controls the tempo. He's the reason Arsenal play the way they do.

 

[Mr Delicious]

Deulofeu is good with giving through balls and dribbling. Makes many key passes. Hes bad at crossing and passing. Also defensive contribution is poor.

He does not dive into tackles.

Neither does Bona. He's talented and i'm curious how he will do but is he for LW? Our team will have quite the dribblers

 

[Goodfella]

In your head or in reality?

He plays in front of the defense and distributes the ball and controls the tempo. He's the reason Arsenal play the way they do.

He's not a holding mid in Arsenal.
He's the more adventurous one of a CM duo in an unbalanced team.

Coquelin/Xhaka is the anchor

 

[Neo'82]

Cazorla wtf...

The new Milan is clearly all about youth and the project will grow to fruition over the next five years. Adding a few experienced players with the right credentials to the mix is common sense. Expensive veteran players though are not required.

 

[Mr Delicious]

He's not a holding mid in Arsenal.
He's the more adventurous one of a CM duo in an unbalanced team.

Coquelin/Xhaka is the anchor

Thats the whole issue with your analyses. You assume every coach follows the tactical setup in your head. About how teams should be (according to you) rather than what teams are in reality.


He plays center in the pitch with a defensive minded mid helping him, his primary job is playmaking and distribution from the deep. Hes thriving in that role and is a center piece in Arsenals playing style and winning ways.

edit: Because i know how difficult and prideful you are:

Couple of Article quotes detailing Cazorlas new role:

Last year, however, he dropped deeper into a more box-to-box role sliding alongside defensive shield Francis Coquelin and seemed to settle into his preferred role. Playing as a deeper lying playmaker, Cazorla was able to dominate games, getting on the ball as regularly as possible, dictating play and providing Arsenal’s attacks with a structure.

It was an incredibly important role that perhaps was only heightened in the eyes of Arsenal fans once he was out of the side. The second half of the season, Arsenal often looked disjointed and awkward with and without the ball. Cazorla provided the team with a link between defence and attack, something that could not be replaced in his absence.

From the article "Arsenal: Santi Cazorla, The Forgotten Saviour"

The creative element of a side can break down far further back than we might think. Too many sideway passes in the midfield, lop sided wingers, and centre backs at full back positions can damage the way in which a team composes itself from the moment it retrieves the ball or attempts to recycle possession. In steps the creative midfielder. The ever moving, free thinking, cyclical component of any true footballing side. In steps Santi Cazorla.

We've all seen the stats. Games won with Cazorla starting. Games won without Cazorla starting. Etc.. But it's the flow of the team that is most greatly affected by his absence. His undeniable composure on the ball. The way he effortlessly links with any member of the team and instantly raises their game. He is a creative cake baked to perfection and the icing on top is his constant smile. In a world perpetuating hate, prejudice, and intolerance, to see such a happy go lucky character enjoy life is important for the game, its fans, and the world in general.

I see many similarities in Granit Xhaka. Physically, two very different people, granted. However, when either step on the pitch, they instantly become the heartbeat of the team. Santi - by playing quick short passes, becoming the link between defense and our attacking midfield options. Retaining possession and moving the ball in either direction so efficiently. And Granit – by breaking up play, imposing himself on the ball, and using his vision to launch a more direct counter attack.

From "Gooners have missed Cazorla but... Why Xhaka growing on Arsenal fans"

Of course Arsenal missed Santi Cazorla - that was no surprise - and it would have helped Wenger’s cause if either Aaron Ramsey or Granit Xhaka had been able to come in to take on playmaking duties. Because without one of those three, the hosts had little to link defence with attack.

From "Arsenal analysis: Olivier Giroud was missed vs Middlesbrough, and Lucas Perez is not much of an alternative".

 

[joyrider]

Storari link.

 

[Goodfella]

Thats the whole issue with your analyses. You assume every coach follows the tactical setup in your head. About how teams should be (according to you) rather than what teams are in reality.

That's great and all, pubes, but the only thing I said about Arsenal's tactical setup, besides it being unbalanced, is that it features a CM duo - a holding mid and an adventurous CM. One might describe it as a 4-1-4-1(Coq or Xhaka being the 1 between the defense and front 5. Please find me a pro-Wenger or anti-Wenger Arsenal fan who'd disagree with that.

He plays center in the pitch with a defensive minded mid helping him, his primary job is playmaking and distribution from the deep. Hes thriving in that role and is a center piece in Arsenals playing style and winning ways.

Being the playmaker in the midfield does not make you the one who plays in front of the defense. He has a similar role to Seedorf's in 2010-12. That's his spot in a 3 man midfield.

If we look at Montella's Fio, he's more of a Valero than a Pizarro.

 

[Neo'82]

Everton currently not willing to give Deulefou away, not even on loan, but the player could push for a move to get more playing time [Sky].

 

[Sage]

cazorla would be an excellent signing for free

 

[Tadej]

Everton currently not willing to give Deulefou away, not even on loan, but the player could push for a move to get more playing time [Sky].

Deulefou wants to milan hell yeah...get hiiiiimmmmm!!!

 

[Phantomx]

CM - New clue confirming the impending passage of Deulofeu at Milan: the Spanish does not take part in the challenge against Hull City, is not among the players available to the technical Koeman.

 

[Balo45]

Cazorla is not that kind of player anymore, not in at least two seasons. You can definitely argue they are unbalanced and that he isn't naturally a deeper player, but pubes is actually right on that. He used to be almost a second striker, but now he's older and because of his passing range he got moved deeper. He also works defensively, although nobody would ever call him good defensively.

Current cazorla plays a similar role to what fabregas played in the double pivot when Chelsea won the league. It's a double pivot in the epl, so yeah at times he'll go up. But you won't see him in the final third that much, not like he used to.

But it would be dumb to play him as a regista, even with montella. He'd probably be played at rcm in a Xavi role

 

[Neruda]

man mirabelli must be working behind the shadows... theres noway Galliani know about Deulofeu

 

[Goodfella]

Cazorla is not that kind of player anymore, not in at least two seasons.

What kind of player? The Cazorla I described was the one of the last seasons. The one that has been moved down to the midfield. Not the LAM/CAM/SS.

LCM would be his spot in our setup, not CDM.

 

[ForzaACM]

What a shame this season will be wasted. No money invested= NO CL.

 

[Mr Delicious]

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[VultureSheva]

Montella's mission after the break is to revive Bacca and Niang. #GdS


Haters can cry.

 

[Allan_Sombrero]

Last time Montella said this he benched the fuck out of Niang

I expect nothing to change.

 

[Tadej]

Montella's mission after the break is to revive Bacca and Niang. #GdS


Haters can cry.

Gds almost as reliable as tuttoshito.

 

[Curupira]

Storari has been in poor form and he is at odds with both Cagliari manager and their fans

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Storari has been in poor form and he is at odds with both Cagliari manager and their fans

G wants to rescue the poor guy from Cagliari?

 

[Raz]

Montella's mission after the break is to revive Bacca and Niang. #GdS


Haters can cry.

Only ones crying will be real Milan fans when we get shit results

 

[Sage]

LCM would be his spot in our setup, not CDM.

 

[Legio IV GrintaBoyz]

Only ones crying will be real Milan fans when we get shit results

you are the saltiest whiniest fucking person on this entire forum

literally every single one of your posts is of you bitching about something

 

[Raz]

another Niang fan I presume...

 

[Tadej]

Raz is the funniest dude on this entire forum bro

 

[Raz]

Or Galliani fan maybe

 

[Raz]

Raz is the funniest dude on this entire forum bro

Thanks, bro. Idk why some people always take things 100% seriously and get all butthurt. And then they call me a salty, negative cunt.

 

[Allan_Sombrero]

you are the saltiest whiniest fucking person on this entire forum

literally every single one of your posts is of you bitching about something

That's Ash.