The Rumour Commode XXXIX: A Cardinal Sin

[Master Smurf]

I suppose Tata was to blame for Theo not tracking back

He knew that even if he did Tata still wouldnt save it - so why run

 

[Pingu]

Gattuso

I'm on the @yungeddy train of no more Italian coaches. Conte too expensive and don't want to see him here with his baggage, same with Gasp. De Zerbi is the only interesting name.

And in what world was Gattuso a better coach than Pioli in their tenure here? Gattuso was a motivator first, tactician never.

 

[Ludwig]

Our comeback after 0-5 defeat vs atalanta was a miracle, 1 out of 10 event. we can't just think that it will happen again this time.

 

[Panache]

Take a look at Theo's behavior especially on the first goal. Now run it back to last weekend when he had 'muscle fatigue'. Do you actually believe this was true?

He's regretting the contract extension? I hope not. That attitude is unlike his usual self. Makes you wonder what's going on.

 

[Master Smurf]

It goes back to "really broke" or "have the money but doesn't want to spend it" right?

If you cant afford a 600k - 1m loan / purchase for a backup keeper then my friend 'you is broke or you is dumb'

 

[Kuroha]

Take a look at Theo's behavior especially on the first goal. Now run it back to last weekend when he had 'muscle fatigue'. Do you actually believe this was true?

Bench and make FBT blossom

 

[Master Smurf]

He's regretting the contract extension? I hope not. That attitude is unlike his usual self. Makes you wonder what's going on.

We also not going to mention the Berardi turnstyle yesterday

Alessio wouldve been proud

 

[Cloren]

i brought this up a few months ago. if they knew they couldn't afford a decent replacement, they should have extended with him. but apparently no backup of his quality is allowed to earn more than theo. except origi and dest of course. i know he often didn't look good against the berardis and lukakus but he was the captain, longest serving at the club, italian, serie a experienced, supposedly in his prime now. these are all factors you have to consider in a contract (extension) imo. maybe we have to bite the bullet sometimes. it’s not like we would be fucked for years with that contract. a reliable third option like romagnoli is hard to find. we should have at least extended one between him and kessie.

I miss Romagnoli

 

[Curupira]

Pretty clear why Theo is behaving like this. In his mind, he is tasked with creating for our toothless offense which leaves him exposed and someone to cover for him. This arrangement is not something that's new. But if you think about how we've been playing this season, how many times has he been left wide open when he tries to make the overlapping run only to have Leao carelessly give it away? What about when he's making a run but you also have Calabria trying to create on the other side because we are so desperate and him and Salad losing the ball while Theo is also pushed up.

Yea, we all know Calabria has the body of a 40 year old, so why the fuck is he pushed up all the way mid and when we lose the ball nowhere to be seen in the frame? Calabria has been made to look like a fool by Zaccagni already. Btw, if that guy was on our team in our static offense I could see how because he has no pace or burst and can't create anything, people saying he is Italian fodder and should gtfo. But this guy looked like freaking Leao against Calabria. Only to have Calabria show the exact same type of mentality and mindset on defense again yesterday and conceding a penalty.

Seems to me that players are all trying to salvage the situations themselves because the root of the issue (our build up/offense is predictable and easy to shut down) is not solve by the manager. So now, players no longer believe in the tactics and abandoning discipline altogether trying to be the hero, and it's only making things worse.

 

[Ash]

I'm on the @yungeddy train of no more Italian coaches. Conte too expensive and don't want to see him here with his baggage, same with Gasp. De Zerbi is the only interesting name.

And in what world was Gattuso a better coach than Pioli in their tenure here? Gattuso was a motivator first, tactician never.

Yeah

Please no Gattuso

Although, the one positive could be a Baka revival lol.

Too bad we have already used up his allotment of games.

 

[Pigeon]

I miss Romagnoli

we are down bad

 

[Kojak]

Lol told ya so

We would have to get relegated first before they'd even THINK to replace Pioli

 

[Kuroha]

baguette maldini

And I bet Pioli still doesn't have a balls to facing him face-2-face and at least questioned him

 

[Kojak]

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Klopp would be perfect but would unfortunately cost an arm and a leg and demand top players (ditto for Tuchel/Conte) so fuhgeddaboudit

 

[Cloren]

Pigeon, I'm fucking with you bro. I was one of the last people who liked Romagnoli, I advocated for him last year. You made fun of him. It's funny.

I advocated for him too last season. But this forum didn’t rate him at all. He’s doing really well in Sarri’s set up.

Tomori and lately Kalulu has been shocking. If Roma did those kind of mistakes. He would be ripped apart. I’m just saying, we’ve been lenient on Tomori/Kalulu tbh. They’ve been a disappointment this season, sorry.

 

[Kuroha]

Wow, the definition of not giving a single fuck
Pioli might have lost the dressing room

Regardless Thats unacceptable from theo what a bitch

Wait, now I think that maybe the latest rumour about his clash with Pioli is not 100% untrue

 

[Ash]

Pretty clear why Theo is behaving like this. In his mind, he is tasked with creating for our toothless offense which leaves him exposed and someone to cover for him. This is not something that's new. But if you think about how we've been playing this season, how many times has he been left wide open when he tries to make the overlapping run only to have Leao carelessly give it away? What about when he's making a run but you also have Calabria trying to create on the other side because we are so desperate and him and Salad losing the ball while Theo is also pushed up.

Yea, we all know Calabria has the body of a 40 year old, so why the fuck is he pushed up all the way mid and when we lose the ball nowhere to be seen in the frame? Calabria has been made to look like a fool by Zaccagni already. Btw, if that guy was on our team in our static offense I could see how because he has no pace or burst and can't create anything, people saying he is Italian fodder and should gtfo. But this guy looked like freaking Leao against Calabria. Only to have Calabria show the exact same type of mentality and mindset on defense again yesterday and conceding a penalty.

Seems to me that players are all trying to salvage the situations themselves because the root of the issue (our build up/offense is predictable and easy to shut down) is not solve by the manager. So now we are seeing holes everywhere because players are abandoning discipline altogether trying to be the hero, and it's only making things worse.

An herein lies the root of the problem

Every single player is out there look like they are trying to do their own thing because there is absolutely zero tactical instruction given to them bar the basics.

Worked well and good when we kept getting bailed out by individual brilliance time and time but even those seem to have run out.

 

[Edu-bY-A]

Who would probably be cheaper than Tuchel, but would be a great fit for our squad, is Marcelo Gallardo. Would be an interesting choice.

 

[Alo88]

I don't disagree that more time is needed, but if Pioli can't show change given he's had 2-3 weeks time to turn things around, there is only so much leeway that can be afforded. It's not to say a new coach will perform miracles, it may be a rough season with or without Pioli - make no mistake. But the club is more important than the coach, and if the coach cannot correct the situation then he must go. The players as a sum are more than quality for top 4 in the league, and can push for Scudetto even as-is if we had the fitness/medical staff of a normal club.

We just cannot allow more valuable time to be wasted. Top 4 can be make or break on the immediate direction this club goes in.

Admitting that continuing with his usual tactics after this would be foolish might have been his saving grace for me - for now. Finally the man is talking some common sense, eventhough it took him way - too - long to realize that he can't just carry on and get humiliated game after game.

I'm curious to see what he's planning. If he can go back to be "the man who finds solutions to every problem". Needless to say that time is running out and that this time it might be too late even for him.

And while tactical adjustments are one criteria the other is obviously if he still has the team behind him or not. If he's lost half the locker room no tactical adjustment will help him. In that case there really wouldn't be no point in continuing with him. I hope Maldini and Massara who visit the team on a daily base will take the right decision. I know that I can't take any more humiliations like that. We've seen some rough phases during banter era, but I can't remember us getting beaten this brutally ona weekly base ever.

 

[Kojak]

We went from a very promising and well managed squad to becoming a fodder aggregator in just 18 months.

In hindsight it’s pretty clear why Gerry hasn’t loosened the purse strings, we have an astonishing amount of dead weight in the squad already

A lot of the good work in getting rid of Mirabellli’s guys is getting undone.

Yes some of these guys aren’t super expensive but it all adds up. You really can’t have more than 3-4 players at this level if we want to be a serious club


Rebic
Diaz
Krunic
Pobega
Messias
Saelemakers
Kjaer
Tata
Calabria
Florenzi
Origi

This squad has 11 absolute duds (Kjaer is the only exception because I love him and he had a long term injury, but I doubt he gets back to his old levels)

+ Gabbia...the human mailbox masquerading as a footballer.

 

[Hugh Janus]

Odds @10.00 for inter to score at least 4 against us, 23.00 to score 5 and 51.00 to score 6.

Go ahead and make some cash, Bioli is here to stay.

 

[Cloren]

Ronaldo cursed us too

 

[Kuroha]

Our comeback after 0-5 defeat vs atalanta was a miracle, 1 out of 10 event. we can't just think that it will happen again this time.

And even that's still need covid to happened first, no?

 

[General]

who said our mercato was the reason we are in this situation?


who said that

 

[sheva]

Pretty clear why Theo is behaving like this. In his mind, he is tasked with creating for our toothless offense which leaves him exposed and someone to cover for him. This arrangement is not something that's new. But if you think about how we've been playing this season, how many times has he been left wide open when he tries to make the overlapping run only to have Leao carelessly give it away? What about when he's making a run but you also have Calabria trying to create on the other side because we are so desperate and him and Salad losing the ball while Theo is also pushed up.

Yea, we all know Calabria has the body of a 40 year old, so why the fuck is he pushed up all the way mid and when we lose the ball nowhere to be seen in the frame? Calabria has been made to look like a fool by Zaccagni already. Btw, if that guy was on our team in our static offense I could see how because he has no pace or burst and can't create anything, people saying he is Italian fodder and should gtfo. But this guy looked like freaking Leao against Calabria. Only to have Calabria show the exact same type of mentality and mindset on defense again yesterday and conceding a penalty.

Seems to me that players are all trying to salvage the situations themselves because the root of the issue (our build up/offense is predictable and easy to shut down) is not solve by the manager. So now, players no longer believe in the tactics and abandoning discipline altogether trying to be the hero, and it's only making things worse.

theo has the heart of a champion and is commited to the shirt 10 times more compared to the mercenaries who take months/years to extend contract

if he of all players (horse stamina) doesn't track back it points to a deeper issue in the dressing room and theo is not to blame. in fact, he's the only player from this squad who can be excused when not giving it his all, simply because it's not in his dna to fuck off when his team needs him and go hide somewhere.

also from today he should be given the capitancy instead of calabria who besides crying like a pussy when we're getting beaten has contributed only negative things to our form

we need capitano bastardo

 

[Curupira]

An herein lies the root of the problem

Every single player is out there look like they are trying to do their own thing because there is absolutely zero tactical instruction given to them bar the basics.

Worked well and good when we kept getting bailed out by individual brilliance time and time but even those seem to have run out.

That's why I thought it's rather shortsighted they gave him the extension, just because we were still on-par to hit the target (CL place, slight improvement in UCL). The same type of shortsightedness that saw us give Gattuso an extension only to take a gamble on Giampaolo months later.

He's been with us for 3 years already but look at our build up. Unless our pressing works to create chances from our opponent's mistakes, we are basically just pass around until individual brilliance. The only difference is teams are doubling up on Leao's side which all but negates our threat and they are more alert in pressing us for our mistakes. Just in terms of alertness, we are more likely to make mistakes because our players are standing around watching.

 

[Alo88]

First time I'm watching some Youtube Highlights. I like that he knows what to do with the ball between his feet. The man definitely has some technique. He looks fast and explosive on the ball, he moves very well with the ball between his feet and knows how to beat his opponent with speed. And he seems like he know how to shoot.

What's worrying me is his physique. He looks like a child (well, he is a child). His opponents look like children. It's one thing to have them as opponents. It's a different thing to face Serie A opponents where almost all players look like bulls. He's definitely no short-term fix IMO. So not what we need now. I don't think he'd bench Saele and Messias, and I'm not saying this because I particularly like them or because Osorio comes from an inferior league. Just look at how fragile he's build. I don't think he's going to just fit like a glove. I'd rather see us trying for Okafor or... well maybe even Zaniolo (not at 30M tho).

 

[Kuroha]

After broke many good records, somehow Pioli feels that now is the time to start collecting bad records too

 

[Kuroha]

First time I'm watching some Youtube Highlights. I like that he knows what to do with the ball between his feet. The man definitely has some technique. He looks fast and explosive on the ball, he moves very well with the ball between his feet and knows how to beat his opponent with speed. And he seems like he know how to shoot.

What's worrying me is his physique. He looks like a child (well, he is a child). His opponents look like children. It's one thing to have them as opponents. It's a different thing to face Serie A opponents where almost all players look like bulls. He's definitely no short-term fix IMO. So not what we need now. I don't think he'd bench Saele and Messias, and I'm not saying this because I particularly like them or because Osorio comes from an inferior league. Just look at how fragile he's build. I don't think he's going to just fit like a glove. I'd rather see us trying for Okafor or... well maybe even Zaniolo (not at 30M tho).

Why can't we just have Angelo Gabriel you're goddamn stingy owner

 

[Alo88]

Well, speaking of not being build too fragile, maybe Zaniolo is not the best example neither