The Rumour Commode XXXIX: A Cardinal Sin

Do you think Leao will renew?


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Chelsea have bid 120m euros (£105.6m) for Benfica's Argentina midfielder Enzo Fernandez in a move that would make him the British transfer record signing.

So far there is no indication whether the Blues' offer, thought to include instalments, will be accepted.
 

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We already won one, last year. I'm sure you predicted that, right?
Feck did you win in Europe last yr? Finished bottom of the table, didnt even EL place
 

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If you support 20 mil for Zaniolo but not 5 mil for Osario then it's not for "budgetary reasons"! I'm not saying which is the better transfer, since I've never seen Osario play. Maybe Zaniolo for 20 mil is a much better transfer and Osario turns out to be a flop. And maybe Zaniolo just scores 2-3 goals a season and Osario becomes s star in EPL. We don't know that, but it's not for budgetary reasons for sure!

And if Cardinale doesn't want to give the current management any money to spend then he should change the management. I'm not saying that the management should be changed but if an owner keeps a management that he doesn't trust and then doesn't let them spend any money, how is that going to work out?!
Or maybe Gerry should just hold firm re mercato budget and hold management accountable for their spending this summer like any good financial manager would? After all, RedBird gave Maldini 50m net spend this season (the highest in Serie A) WITHOUT asking for player sales so it isn't their fault that he decided to blow it all on CDK, Thiaw, Adli, Messias + Vrancx whilst handing out lucrative long term deals to both Florenzi + Origi.

Meanwhile, Napoli were forced to cash in/release some of their best players (Koulibaly, Fabian Ruiz, Mertens + Insigne) and actually managed to IMPROVE the team and finish with a net DEFICIT :lol::fp:
 

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Once the dust settles with a calmer mind I thought I could possibly see some signs of us somehow getting out of this nightmare form we've been in. Nope!
 

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Lol! I wasnt against you there but with you... Im speaking to Sam
Lmaoo My bad.. I am always on go over here
Used to fight with posters 24/7 😭
 

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Feck did you win in Europe last yr? Finished bottom of the table, didnt even EL place
I thought you wrote title not tie, and was referring to Barca's league standing, my bad. I'm amazed you wanted to shine a light on Barca being in the EL for the second consecutive year.
 
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Sign Dario Osorio and give him 10 year contract like Todd Boehly aka Todd Ballin
We need these tactics too
 

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I don't feel like fighting.

If you think I am confrontational while Milan is doing well... oh boy, I am an absolute asshole when Milan is doing poorly.

I don't feel like insulting people and getting in even deeper trouble with God than I already am.
 

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After all, RedBird gave Maldini 50m net spend this season (the highest in Serie A) WITHOUT asking for player sales so it isn't their fault
How I wish we had gotten Botman & Enzo instead
 

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Sign Dario Osorio and give him 10 year contract like Todd Boehly aka Todd Ballin
We need these tactics too
UEFA are apparently about to outlaw that. I also believe you can't sign players for more than 5 years in Italy anyway.
 

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Liverpool manager Klopp unhappy with players'​

Lets hope for a falling out... only way Klopp leaves.
 

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Real Madrid president Florentino Perez says they should be regarded as the best club of the 21st century.

Perez made the claim at a book presentation today.

He declared, "Madridistas and fans who feel passionate about football in any corner of the world will never forget how the 14th was achieved. In 120 years of our history we have experienced episodes that have contributed to magnify the legend of Real Madrid and gather thousands of followers around our universal values.

"The magical nights at the Bernabéu are explained by these values. Real Madrid never gives up and gives everything until the end. This is the explanation for what happened last season, with players who feel this shirt and who fit in with the values that make up our identity. And with a coach, Ancelotti, who has been able to create a family.

"Everything we have experienced has been thanks to the passion and unity of the entire Madrid family who have supported the team in the most difficult moments.

"This mix of talent and commitment from our players, the coach and our fans has made the Bernabéu once again a magical territory in which the fans have seen their dreams come true.

"All this has to to frame it in one of the most spectacular winning cycles in our history, with five 'Champions' in nine years that strengthen us to be recognised as the best club of the 21st century."
Bastardos
 

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Or maybe Gerry should just hold firm re mercato budget and hold management accountable for their spending this summer like any good financial manager would? After all, RedBird gave Maldini 50m net spend this season (the highest in Serie A) WITHOUT asking for player sales so it isn't their fault that he decided to blow it all on CDK, Thiaw, Adli, Messias + Vrancx whilst handing out lucrative long term deals to both Florenzi + Origi.

Meanwhile, Napoli were forced to cash in/release some of their best players (Koulibaly, Fabian Ruiz, Mertens + Insigne) and actually managed to IMPROVE the team and finish with a net DEFICIT :lol::fp:

35 mil net spend! They sold Hauge for around 12-14 mil.

But what method to keep them accountable? Fire them and hire new sports management or just keep them and refuse to let them spend or something else? What's going to help the club in the winning and in gaining value?

Btw, Napoli's yearly squad cost which includes the amortization of transfers plus yearly salaries is higher than Milan's. So they are spending more overall. If the owners let management give 6 mil salary to Kessie and 3-3.5 mil to Romagnoli, then there is no reason to buy Vranckx and Thiaw.

Napoli overall mercato was much better, but overall they are spending good amounts on their squad.
 

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35 mil net spend! They sold Hauge for around 12-14 mil.

But what method to keep them accountable? Fire them and hire new sports management or just keep them and refuse to let them spend or something else? What's going to help the club in the winning and in gaining value?

Btw, Napoli's yearly squad cost which includes the amortization of transfers plus yearly salaries is higher than Milan's. So they are spending more overall. If the owners let management give 6 mil salary to Kessie and 3-3.5 mil to Romagnoli, then there is no reason to buy Vranckx and Thiaw.

Napoli overall mercato was much better, but overall they are spending good amounts on their squad.
Napoli arent a hedge fund
 

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you can't expect him to turn shit into gold.:o

seriously, every >15mil transfer has hit the ground running under pioli sooner or later. tonali was a mental midget in his first season and it took leao a few seasons to finally reach his potential. but even today, he's still extremely inconsistent. can you really blame pioli for that? i mean he gave both players enough minutes. even saele was used immediately in almost every game when he was signed in winter. i don't think he's as disastrous in player evaluation and integration as it's currently being made out to be. he can/should be criticized for cdk at the moment, but you also have to admit that he has mostly played like shit and hasn't given any reasons why pioli should prefer him to brahim. 5-10mil hardly gets you something good nowadays. what is he supposed to do with a 24 year old goalkeeper from paraguay who cost 350k?:lol:
100% fair. My criticism for Pioli is always that we still play very predictably and the recent abandonment of discipline.

This is more on maldino that Pioli has never shown he's able to completely incorporate a young player in. Kalulu was used during an emergency period where rest of our squad was clicking and now you are seeing his shortcomings. So I don't know why one would expect Osorio to be able to hit the ground running when those who are more "proven" cannot. Now they are expecting Pioli to make the exception (Kalulu) the norm, on top of other existing problems we were showing.
 

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35 mil net spend! They sold Hauge for around 12-14 mil.

But what method to keep them accountable? Fire them and hire new sports management or just keep them and refuse to let them spend or something else? What's going to help the club in the winning and in gaining value?

Btw, Napoli's yearly squad cost which includes the amortization of transfers plus yearly salaries is higher than Milan's. So they are spending more overall. If the owners let management give 6 mil salary to Kessie and 3-3.5 mil to Romagnoli, then there is no reason to buy Vranckx and Thiaw.

Napoli overall mercato was much better, but overall they are spending good amounts on their squad.
Once again, Napoli is able to do this because they are cushioned by selling their big players for respectable amounts.

I have fought tooth and nail to defend maldino from the accusations of "bad at selling" but if we lose out on Leao, there is no excuses.
 

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Jeff Zucker, the former president of CNN, has joined US private equity group RedBird to launch a $1bn sports, media and entertainment fund with International Media Investments.

The move to RedBird marks a comeback for Zucker 11 months after being forced to quit his job at the US cable news network because of his failure to report a romantic relationship with a subordinate.
I hope he fecks gerry this time
 

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A proper youth project is one where you gradually bed in youngsters to take over from the senior players when they leave. Not fucking sign a bunch of them and throw them into the deep end.

We did that in the past on a lesser scale with TSilva and Pato. We have done it during Maldini's time at the beginning with Leao (Ibra taking on most of the attacking responsibilities) and Tonali (with the Bennacer- Kessie duo). Even Kalulu somewhat benefitted from having Kjaer and Romagnoli around.

But lately, our focus has just plain shifted to just buying a bunch of random youth and expecting them to replace the quality players we let go.
I agree, it's been too much. We seemed to have the balance right especially with pre-injury Kjaer, and Giroud as the supposed backup-striker.

We stopped signing these experienced winners. Why?
 

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30% resale to universidad de Chile for osorio is further evidence that Maldini is incompetent and is incapable of negotiating.
 

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I agree, it's been too much. We seemed to have the balance right especially with pre-injury Kjaer, and Giroud as the supposed backup-striker.

We stopped signing these experienced winners. Why?
Lack of opportunities? I don't remember many profiles like that being on the market last summer. Also one could argue that Origi at least partly falls into that mold, I mean he is clearly not on Kjaer or Giroud level but still has more experience than the younger players, especially in international games.
 
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