The Rumour Commode XXXIX: A Cardinal Sin

[Cloren]

Bakayoko stays

Terrible news for the game and humanity

 

[RBaggio]

Baka alone is 4.6 m per year. 9.2 m in total for 2 years of him sitting on the bench. Almost everybody here was against the move. This transfer had flop written all over it. 9.2 m literally down the drain.
Florenzi is 3.7 m
Dest is 6 m
Origi is 5.1 m
Nearly 20 m gross/year on 4 players that were brought to be bench players. Some of our bench players (Baka, Florenzi, Dest, Origi, Rebic) are earning much more than the starters (Leao, Bennacer and Tonali pre-extentions, Kalulu). What kind of re-tarded club is bringing in bench players on higher wages than the ones given to the starters?

CDK for 35 m is ridiculous even if he performed well. Of all the teams in the world, it is us that broke the all time Belgian league record outgoing transfer fee Not PSG, not Real, not City, but Milan
Rejected 15+ m for Pobega
Rejected any loan offers for Lazetic. What is the point of having the kid in the stands? He's been here for more than a year and nothing is changing. Could've got like 1 m from a paid loan + he would get valuable experience, but no, he should sit comfortably on the bench.
We have 4 GKs Mirante who never even touched the field costs us 1.3 m.
Decided to wait for Renato, who was obviously not interested in Milan, instead of going for Enzo who was 1 signature away and was way more affordable.
Chased Botman for months, didn't land him and brought... Thiaw CB was obviously a priority for Maldini and Massara and after failing with the #1 target, they simply decided that it is no longer a priority. This logic is still killing me and we all see the results.
After fucking up with both Renato and Enzo, decided to give Wolfsburg 2 m for a loan of a bench player. 2 m gross wage again for nothing.
Spent 4.5 m on Messias and 2 m gross per year on wages.

A lot of questionable decisions and money spent on useless players.

We shouldnt give that kind of money to reserves. Opposite we should sell bench players who earn more money than starters. We have huge holes in first 11.

We have calabria on rb , also kalulu can play there. So why we take 6m gross dest and 2 m cost plus 3 m gross florenzi? If your player injured then why you loan dest , it is nonsense, find a cheaper version. Because he will be substitute

Why you but messias for 5 m when you need rw. If you dont have money than loan someone. If you dont have money than sell someone for example pobega. It is not an excuse.

We spent so much money and give so much money to garbages. We shouldn’t give much money to substitutes

With 10 million you can buy kvara , with 15 million you can buy Enzo ,also with 35 million you can buy cdk. Money is important but how you use it is more important.

If maldini is not maldini and don’t have history with Milan yes he deserved to be sacked but we should give him another chance for summer. But if I was in charge in the next summer when he came and say we will take a substitute with 6m gross wages I directly say no and fire him

He has good intentions of course I believe it and if he can handle this he is the ideal sporting director for Milan. But he is highly incompetent and we should see a quick improvement

Also we should fix some holes with more ready players. We have wrong strategy. Of course we will buy young potentials more but this is not the only way. Again we could loan 2 players for rw and cm at the start of the season and we could challenge scudetto again. We did it in giroud why we don’t do it for any other bleeding position.

Wait they will develop , ok maybe they will develop but it will not change the failure

 

[theduck7]

Bakayoko stays

Let's hope Turkey is still on the cards

 

[milanator]

Maldini is good as the CEO of the sporting side (they call it Technical Director ). As SD Massara is decent but Moncada or someone else could be better. As far as I can remember Maldini initially wanted Igli Tare of Lazoi as the SD. When Tare didn't accept, he got Massara 2-3 days later.

It seems Moncada wanted Enzo F and Kolo Muani. The press is saying that Massara preferred Origi over Muani. Also Zaniolo doesn't seem like a Monacada pick either....

Doesn’t Zaniolo have huge xStats like xG and stuff? He just doesn’t perform in reality. Football just isn’t as linear a game as baseball, I wouldn‘t be surprised if Zaniolo pops up in sone statistical program.
Hauge for example was also bought based of statistics, and value wise was a good deal but isn‘t s great player.
That‘s also why I don‘t want us to go full Moncada. Moncada is an asset but it‘s good to have a SD or chief scout with a different perspective and not be fully Moncada dependent. Doesn‘t mean that there are no upgrades to Massara though.

 

[Cloren]

I love Maldini but his inability to sell players frustrates me. Donnaruma/Kessie/Romagnoli/Hakan had no business going off for free. And now probably Leao won’t extend? What are you waiting for? Sell him off..

This to me is Maldini/Massara’s biggest flaw. Their inability to sell players. It’s costing us big time. Because if we managed to sell, we could have so much more funds. Also the negotiations take way too fucking long. It shouldn’t always be the case.

 

[Kojak]

just warning the forum for stupid members i do that since i was 14 year old boy..even at the age of 14 i had a better understanding of football then old man kojak could ever dream of having

Disgusting bald old fuck..should get sprayed with Rat Detergent

Lol I wish I'd used a condom 10 years ago Better yet, I should've just used a tissue and flushed you down the toilet (after taking a dump) where you belong

 

[Curupira]

not just ambition, we actually can't sell

I was being nice.

And this is one of the aspects I gave maldino A LOT of benefit of the doubt.

But here we go again with Leao

 

[yungeddy]

Lol I wish I'd used a condom 10 years ago Better yet, I should've just used a tissue and flushed you down the toilet (after taking a dump) where you belong

Only a autist would say something like this btw...im not saying like u can guarantee that someone is autistic just from reading that one sentence but it would be suspicious thats for sure

50 year old virgin kojak who watches primavera in his spare time

I think u need to look in the mirror man about who u are as a person and what u reached in ur life
Unfortunaly he is also low iq that couldve been his saving grace bt no...just all round useless and patethic

What a sad fuck and sad story

 

[Hugh Janus]

Let's hope Turkey is still on the cards

 

[yungeddy]

Almost cried while writing that cause of how sad a story it was

 

[Kuroha]

Somehow I'm pretty confident we will win on Sunday and end our crisis just in time before CL starts
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Same story that I've been heard for more than two weeks now

 

[Hugh Janus]

Im afraid ur a ******d too then....im not concerned about what 2 apes think of eachother

#Kojak biggest idiot i ever witnessed on this forum
Makes every stereotype in the world a reality

Idk bro I was rooting for you the whole time... however it seems that the bond between hekky z and chelsea's bench is too strong to be broken that easy.

 

[Curupira]

Only a autist would say something like this btw...im not saying like u can guarantee that someone is autistic just from reading that one sentence but it would be suspicious thats for sure

50 year old virgin kojak who watches primavera in his spare time

I think u need to look in the mirror man about who u are as a person and what u reached in ur life
Unfortunaly he is also low iq that couldve been his saving grace bt no...just all round useless and patethic

What a sad fuck and sad story

I just like to point out Kojak is actually 80.

Now carry on.

 

[yungeddy]

i only wanna prove that kojak was stupid and has 0 clue about what he writes whole essays about clown ...anyway just warning my boys and roasting his old man thats all i dont care where hekky z plays ( i prefer for us ofc next summer)...im not his agent or brother

I am only Kojaks Destroyer...

 

[Kuroha]

I 100% get the reasons for Maldini and Massara to be sacked. Am I there yet? Not quite, but the number of bad moves they’ve made recently isn’t insignificant

- Origi has been a complete disaster
- Florenzi for the wages he’s on offers very little (yes, quota, but im sure we can find cheaper third string RBs who are Italy trained)
- Losing Kessie for free and not bothering to replace him
- Bakayoko - less said the better
- Having a squad with 4 AMs, 4 RBs - but no backup left back or CM depth

This. Like when he'd trying to stacking CB a few windows ago, his tendency to keep pilling players on the same position without first fixing a position that still without sure starter is very confusing.

 

[theduck7]

Don’t think the window closes until mid Feb but I could be wrong

 

[Qaas]

Am i the only one that is confident that this sunday on 05.02.2023 (exactly one year since Giroud’s 1-2 brace) we gonna turn this season around?

I really think the boys will rise and win this! Forza

Yes

 

[Kojak]

Only a autist would say something like this btw...im not saying like u can guarantee that someone is autistic just from reading that one sentence but it would be suspicious thats for sure

50 year old virgin kojak who watches primavera in his spare time

I think u need to look in the mirror man about who u are as a person and what u reached in ur life
Unfortunaly he is also low iq that couldve been his saving grace bt no...just all round useless and patethic

What a sad fuck and sad story

Lol look at this self-loathing, nonsensical baboon hurling insults left, right and center when in reality he's just self-projecting what he really thinks about himself and what he's been told all his life by his family (correctly!)

Keep going idiot...I just LOVE how you keep revealing to everybody what a complete MESS you are in real life

 

[Curupira]

i only wanna prove that kojak was stupid and has 0 clue about what he writes whole essays about clown ...anyway just warning my boys and roasting his old man thats all i dont care where hekky z plays ( i prefer for us ofc next summer)...im not his agent or brother

I am only Kojaks Destroyer...

We may disagree on certain things.

But, Hekky Z deserved better after the performance he put on during the World Cup. If we are going to say our players are underperforming right now we have to say the same about Hekky Z for Chelsea because he showed he's capable of more with Morocco .

 

[Saladin]

So Conte could be out 2 months, if we weren't in a such ugly form it would have been a good thing, but I guess at least we won't get trashed... Or we will!

 

[General]

Look at what u said in the quotes and look at the image i linked
u looking like a straight up idiot

Fucking 50 year old american have some fucking shame....spewing bullshit with ur 0 iq
Go watch Camarda u braindead monkey 50 year old italianamerican salty man who watches the trash primavera cause he has no life and cares so much about italian talents

Italian talents are straight trash

wow

 

[brk]

Hi all,

First time poster, but long time lurker (probably since 2009 or so). I feel compelled to post and express my thoughts following the January disaster.

We've played like crap since the beginning of the season really. We were staying afloat, but it seemed clear that eventually we were going to hit a wall. We desperately needed reinforcements. Seeing Kessie rot on the bench at Barca when he could be a wall in our midfield yet again has been really disappointing. To fill this gap, I would have expected Pioli to modify the tactics to play a 3 man mid much earlier in the season. This should have been tested in pre-season frequently at the very least. I've also noticed we haven't even tried to play a 3rd mid in the cam role almost at all this year. Playing Krunic or Kessie there last year was very effective and allowed us to grind out results. It allowed us to essentially have a 3 man mid defensively, but also a mid higher up the pitch who could provide needed pressing. We don't have this at all when playing with Brahim or even CDK at CAM. It's crucial especially when playing with Giroud who can't provide the pressing energy of Rebic, for example, up top.

Just to throw out some more opinions of mine:

Dest has been a complete disaster and one of my least favourite Milan players in years. I never want to see him wear our shirt again. I would have liked to see Kalulu shifted back to RB in some games with Thiaw partnering Tomori.

Back-up LB has also been a disaster with FBT being pretty much unplayable. Putting it all on Theo is too much.

I agree that RW is a paramount need, but I also think that what Salad provides when he's on form gives us balance and is manageable. Too bad he's pretty much forgotten how to play the past year or so.

I also fully believe in CDK. He needs both time and playing time. I see the flashes like we saw with Tonali (albeit different) in their first disaster seasons. Not willing to comment on his subpar performances until half way into next season.

Back to the crisis: I strongly disagree with the Maldini haters. For me, it's all on ownership and Pioli. Maldini clearly has nothing to work with. Yes, he's made some mistakes, but all directors do. He got us to a Scudetto and he's still new to the job. Ownership silence has been disgusting, and I hope the pressure piles on when they realize some investment is necessary. They seem rigid, and they must understand that sometimes intervention is necessary even when you're following a specific growth system.

I want Pioli gone (his decisions tactically and team sheet wise this year have been baffling). But, I also don't think it would do anything at this point in the season. For me, he should get a bit more time this season. Bringing someone new now wouldn't help our chances at Inter next game in my opinion. Assuming he recovers soon, he should still be gone at the end of the season. Now is the time in our project to bring in a manager who can take us even higher (not sure who that is yet). Perhaps Gallardo, previously from River? I've watched a decent amount of South American football, and his team set ups were very impressive.

I hope to contribute more in the future, Forza Milan!

 

[Edu-bY-A]

Maldini is good as the CEO of the sporting side (they call it Technical Director ). As SD Massara is decent but Moncada or someone else could be better. As far as I can remember Maldini initially wanted Igli Tare of Lazoi as the SD. When Tare didn't accept, he got Massara 2-3 days later.

It seems Moncada wanted Enzo F and Kolo Muani. The press is saying that Massara preferred Origi over Muani. Also Zaniolo doesn't seem like a Monacada pick either....

The reports that Massara has opted for Origi are false. In fact, Kolo Muani decided against Milan and for Frankfurt. Obviously he was right to do so, when I see how Pioli deals with new arrivals and how his development is in Frankfurt.

With us, he would never have got enough playing time to make the World Cup squad.

 

[MilanFan89]

I really dont look forward to the derby, first time in years

 

[yungeddy]

Lol look at this self-loathing, nonsensical baboon hurling insults left, right and center when in reality he's just self-projecting what he really thinks about himself and what he's been told all his life by his family (correctly!)

Keep going idiot...I just LOVE how you keep revealing to everybody what a complete MESS you are in real life

I already revealed myself
People know everything about me...where i live how i look why i look like that..even how my beautiful model wife looks like...everything...kojak looks at himnself and sees a old midget body and says to himself...fuck i would get folded in half...guess il call the escortservice again to forget the pain so she can jerk my patethic shrimpeled old dick off...get a good 10 second of stimulation off

Its actually poor 65 year old kojak hiding behind his internet avatar insulting mothers and being absolutely clueless about football so dont speak about IRL
Go away u disgusting maggot dont speak to me and lets end this dialogue....i did my job as a rat exterminator...

#Kojak

 

[Kmoney]

you have 1 move for the 2H of the season

1. Major transfer move (including sell Leao and reinvest ~80-100M now)
2. term Pioli
3. term makdini
4. keep management the same but different tactics on the field


what are you doing today. Can only pick one thing

we need a poll like this

Pioli is making Maldini looks like he wasted money on a bunch of players

A better coach and I’m sure CDK looks a hell of a lot better

Term Pioli without doubt

 

[Kojak]

wow

Lol now do you understand why I keep calling him an idiot? He claims to support an ITALIAN team and then proceeds to slander all ITALIAN talents including the goal scoring phenomenon Camarda aka 'YOUNG SHEVA'.

I think an indefinite stay and all expenses paid trip to the local asylum is in order courtesy of Genny!

 

[Kmoney]

I reckon this Vasquez guy is clearly not gonna be a huge upgrade on Tata or Pioli would've played him, yes he needs time to settle but if he had enough ability I don't think Pioli would be risking his career with Tata

Goalkeeper is probably the “safest” bet in terms of being able to identify ability and use stats to get someone you need.

I really don’t get how this move happened

 

[namorov]

Latest CIES ranking - best "take on" players.

Weekly Post 407

CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post

football-observatory.com

... taking into account the frequency of successful dribbles and crosses, playing time, as well as the sporting level of matches played ...

Unsurprisingly Leao and Theo in absolute top.
Also unsurprisingly - no other Milan player made the cut.

 

[yungeddy]

The low social status of some people here creeps me out sometimes