The Rumour Commode XXXIX: A Cardinal Sin

[Panache]

They definitely overpaid for CDK, but his potential is up there with the best players in the world. He’s a Leao level talent.

Based on what exactly? Feelings?

 

[BreadPitt]

It's actually funny how many videos like this there are

How the fuck is this guy a gk as a professional?

 

[gioiuzza]

Apparently a Tonali-Krunic-Messias midfield with Saele at RW was tried in training

Have to hope it's a misdirection to lull Inter into a false sense of security...

 

[rossonero1]

It's actually funny how many videos like this there are

They're practicing taking the ball out of the back of the net. It's going to happen a lot on Sunday.

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

Well its a forum - in good and bad there will be differing topics and POV

The notion that we should get all on the same page in this is a fallacy - we all cope and enjoy the journey in different ways.
I have seen others here talk about we shouldnt have so much negativity but the truth is that if thats what they want then a closed group with only like-minded individuals is needed.

Some fans always complain even though during the event they hope for the best, some always excuse everything - We should be all mature enough to understand that is the nature of things.

As I said I'm in a good mood and feeling hopeful... I've come to terms with things, regards our impotent mercato.

It is what it is... Am I pissed yes, but I can't affect what happened, so I'm pushing forward hoping for some players to step, turn things around.

Forza Milan

 

[IL-Capitano]

Very aptly put Sir @MilanMB people should be extremely grateful to MMM for not only the Scudetto but for getting Milan on a far more positive road.

It has hit a few bumps of late there have been set backs but there are many who need to have a little more faith and not give up so easily.

Forza Milan ️️

 

[Ash]

He waits for his chance on the RW and plays so well that pioli can’t ignore him anymore.

He was actually playing well the last game and got subbed out at half time. That as his first start since October btw (great way to boost a young player's confidence)

Lets give up any notion that Pioli has any clue how to integrate youth.

 

[Ash]

Ungrateful twats should already be singing their praises here

Won us a fucking scudetto

Ok Mr. Flip Flop

 

[Ludwig]

Apparently a Tonali-Krunic-Messias midfield with Saele at RW was tried in training

Have to hope it's a misdirection to lull Inter into a false sense of security...

Lol is it hard for Pioli to abandon 2 mids system? even when he wants to try 3 mids, he inserts 1 non-midfielder player in it.

 

[brk]

He was actually playing well the last game and got subbed out at half time. That as his first start since October btw (great way to boost a young player's confidence)

Lets give up any notion that Pioli has any clue how to integrate youth.

He kept Rebic on (on a yellow) to play him with Leao, so we had two players that want to play LW and eventually two CFs too with Origi. Those subs were weird.

 

[Ludwig]

Name me 1 weaker and less imposing captain in the history of football then calabria

Il wait

Bonucci

 

[Tantalis]

How bad is Aldi that messias would start in the midfield over him? Sam is about to go off on pioli

 

[Ash]

He kept Rebic on (on a yellow) to play him with Leao, so we had two players that want to play LW and eventually two CFs too with Origi. Those subs were weird.

Nope

Those subs are standard Pioli

 

[Ash]

Name me 1 weaker and less imposing captain in the history of football then calabria

Il wait

Bonucci?

Montolivo?

 

[Ash]

How bad is Aldi that messias would start in the midfield over him? Sam is about to go off on pioli

Pioli's job is on the line

The guy is risk averse at the best of times...you really think he will take gambles when his ass "is on fire"?

 

[milanator]

Calabria is always quickly involved in situations with the ref and both passionate and level headed. All in all he is a pretty active captain and a weird thing to hold against him.

 

[Tantalis]

Pioli's job is on the line

The guy is risk averse at the best of times...you really think he will take gambles when his ass "is on fire"?

I think it's just rumor, but funny to entertain the thought of.

 

[MilanMB]

Ok Mr. Flip Flop

I'd appreciate if you call me Mr. Nuance

 

[rossonero1]

I think it's just rumor, but funny to entertain the thought of.

Milan are the for sure under dogs on Sunday so a loss can be expected. If they get embarrassed like the past few games, then maybe Pioli will get sacked.

I think he has through the first leg vs Tottenham at least. But the farther they potentially drop from top 4 then he needs to go asap.

 

[yungeddy]

Calabria is always quickly involved in situations with the ref and both passionate and level headed. All in all he is a pretty active captain and a weird thing to hold against him.

not talking about getting involved or being active
he is a professional footballer..if ur not passionate or wanna get involved u shouldnt even be on the field

Its a huge difference for the players to see a man like kjaer or ibra leading on the pitch instead of a weak like calabria..thats just basic human psychology

 

[Kojak]

Ag. Kiwior: "Many top Italian clubs wanted it, but you know what happens when the Premier arrives"​

We know, agent. We know

Apparently his exact words were that Napoli didn’t need him, Juve’s scandal prevented a move and Milan HESITATED (surprise surprise). Mark my words, this will go down as another Botman level miss who’s currently 3rd in the league with Newcastle who also have the BEST defence in the EPL.

Also, both Jorginho + Kiwior would’ve come in extremely handy here so fuck Arsenal too

 

[Mr. Tea]

50k views in 1 hour wich is well and well above what a average ac milan video does in a lifetime

Were fucked...

Who cares

 

[Kojak]

Apparently a Tonali-Krunic-Messias midfield with Saele at RW was tried in training

Have to hope it's a misdirection to lull Inter into a false sense of security...

Lol I always knew Interista Pioli was an undercover agent

 

[Ash-ish]

Damn Kojak and yf have to be brothers?

 

[Kojak]

Damn Kojak and yf have to be brothers?

He’s actually my useless, worthless, jobless SON

 

[Hugh Janus]

Probable lineup vs. Inter: Tatarusanu; Calabria, Kalulu, Kjaer, Theo Hernandez; Messias, Tonali, Krunic; Saelemaekers, Giroud, Leao

 

[papaberlu]

[Vitiello] Mister Pioli carried out several training tests ahead of Sunday night’s derby. There is something new, with the Rossoneri coach wanting to try Junior Messias as a right mezzala in a 4-3-3, alongside Tonali and Krunic in the midfield and Saelemaekers at the right wing.

[SkySport] Probable lineup vs. Inter: Tatarusanu; Calabria, Kalulu, Kjaer, Theo Hernandez; Messias, Tonali, Krunic; Saelemaekers, Giroud, Leao

I mean this when I say this

Pioli deserves to hang

 

[Alo88]

That's what we keep hearing from "positivity force" when we criticize performances. Just giving you a taste of your own medicine.

I keep hearing "that's what we keep hearing when..." but the last couple of weeks I think we've all been pretty united on the "what the fuck is Pioli doing" front, so I really don't know where that is coming from all of a sudden

Anyway, let's not do this stupid who's the better fan game. I appreciate every opinion, even those I disagree with, that doesn't make me or others better fans.

Written by Alo and Brk

Good one, although I stand by my stance that all these reports with "they wanted to spend this or that on the mercato" in it are purely fabricated ones. They simply don't make sense from a financial POV. What does for example 70M mean in that report? 70M between amortization, wage and taxes? Or only player cards? And what about the wages and taxes then?

Even when we're arguing that Milan spent 50M net this year, as @omer486 pointed out, it's really not telling as much as the difference in overall payroll between 21/22 and 22/23 season (which we'll only know for sure once this season concludes and the numbers will be made public).

But I get that medias don't write for wannabe finance and number nerds like me or others but for common folks. So they keep beating on that rather simple "war chest!", "pharaoinic 400M mercato!" and whatnot drum.

I think the only hope now is that Redshit agrees and starts the stadium project, maybe at Sesto. They don't even have to stay around for the stadium to finish being made. Just starting the project should push the valuation up by a few hundred million in expectation of future revenues.

Then maybe, within 2 years these turds can sell the club to some Arab group and screw off to Toulouse!

I can't see any way around that TBH. My takes today were not taken from the stance "I defend Redbird and Elliott because I'm their spokesperson". I took them from the stance "how convenient to destabilize the environment just now and what do they actually know about Investcorp anyway?" Most of the stories are based on assumptions and rumors, not on facts. Fans should keep that in mind even when it's way easier right now to hate on everything Milan related, I get that.

Still, Redbird committed 1,2B + interests (~200M in total after 5 years) + earn-in bonus (if they sell Milan on a profit) for this club. How on earth are they going to recoup that without the stadium? That alone is imperative if they want to get Milan to a valuation of close to 2B. It really needs another Yonghong Li to end up with that realization only when it's too late.

But even with the stadium, a long-term-project, Redbird can't help but build on last season's success if they want to increase the value of the club. Obviously, deteriorating sporting results will only have a negative impact on the value of the club and thus negatively affect their investment.

So I'm with @brk in that I'd give them at least one last summer to see if they really are as stingy (and in that case, stupid and short-sighted) as this winter has made it look. Make no mistake: I am absolutely not happy and think they should have at least strengthened the goalkeeper position and possibly brought forward at least a small investment in the striker department already instead of waiting for this summer.

As for the summer mercato: Maldini must take at least partial responsibility for that. He may not have had much of a budget, but he didn't have 0 either. And unlike Napoli, we didn't sell any top performers with whom we could have financed the summer mercato. So he was in a good starting position despite loosing Kessie. I can understand why the owners thought the team didn't need any big investments after having been first or second in the league since the spring of 2020, even when in hindsight it was too blue eyed.

And re our current mental hole: I personally hold Pioli much more responsible, who has caused a real massacre with his stubbornness in terms of tactics, but also with the misguided introduction of new players and terrible handling of muscle injuries. He created a perfect negative storm in that regard.

 

[Alo88]

[Vitiello] Mister Pioli carried out several training tests ahead of Sunday night’s derby. There is something new, with the Rossoneri coach wanting to try Junior Messias as a right mezzala in a 4-3-3, alongside Tonali and Krunic in the midfield and Saelemaekers at the right wing.

[SkySport] Probable lineup vs. Inter: Tatarusanu; Calabria, Kalulu, Kjaer, Theo Hernandez; Messias, Tonali, Krunic; Saelemaekers, Giroud, Leao

I mean this when I say this

Pioli deserves to hang

Messias mezz'ala!?

I know we all wanted change but damn, careful for what you wish I guess.

 

[papaberlu]

The one guy in the squad with worse VISION and passing ability than Tata is going to start in the midfield

Incredible

At this point, the league could allow Pioli to play a 4-4-4 and he'd still fuck it up