Antonio Nocerino Thread

[MonsterKane]

agree nocerino has never been a great player, but in time with good coaching he could become one.

ibra is already great but if he had some of nocerino's qualities he would be the greatest.

I don't hear anyone put ibra down when it would be easier for ibra to show the effort and determination nocerino shows every game then it would be for nocerino to show the skill and technique ibra shows.

one shows god given skill the other man made will.

we bought pirlo and gattuso when they were considered flops or nothing special and now they are football icons.

yes he has the least tackles among our B2B mids but very few people get past him in fact less people get past him then any other mid.

he is exceptional at containing a player.
in a situation where you can't tackle or you shouldn't tackle, you should always contain. he does.

the fact that he has played more then any player except silva shows that he is doing something right and that he has the complete faith of the coach.

nocerino is becoming to some some milan fans what makalele was to the real madrid board. an inconvenient truth in their football dream.

in the last 20 years we've seen inter buy the most hyped creative players, world superstars, dream signings yet it was one unheralded Argentinian they bought that eclipsed them all, Javier Zanetti. (if noch becomes half the play zanetti was...)

teams need people like him nocerino to allow the others to do what they do best.

First you mention the names of Gattuso and Pirlo and then Makelele and J. Zanetti. Please don't use great players to defend a mediocre Nocerino.

 

[Dottore Joey]

Not as good performance like he has had this season, Understandable though, has been playing every game, everywhere on the field.

Very Good Investment.

 

[sushanmilano]

agree nocerino has never been a great player, but in time with good coaching he could become one.

ibra is already great but if he had some of nocerino's qualities he would be the greatest.

I don't hear anyone put ibra down when it would be easier for ibra to show the effort and determination nocerino shows every game then it would be for nocerino to show the skill and technique ibra shows.

one shows god given skill the other man made will.

we bought pirlo and gattuso when they were considered flops or nothing special and now they are football icons.

yes he has the least tackles among our B2B mids but very few people get past him in fact less people get past him then any other mid.

he is exceptional at containing a player.
in a situation where you can't tackle or you shouldn't tackle, you should always contain. he does.

the fact that he has played more then any player except silva shows that he is doing something right and that he has the complete faith of the coach.

nocerino is becoming to some some milan fans what makalele was to the real madrid board. an inconvenient truth in their football dream.

in the last 20 years we've seen inter buy the most hyped creative players, world superstars, dream signings yet it was one unheralded Argentinian they bought that eclipsed them all, Javier Zanetti. (if noch becomes half the play zanetti was...)

teams need people like him nocerino to allow the others to do what they do best.

You didnt mention the fact that the other players you mentioned have talent while nocerino is just mediocre. If you want Nocerino in the long term plan of the club , then god save us.

 

[Senatore_M84]

He's a fine squad player but let's not exagerrate his potential. If you think he's a bonafide first 11 like gattuso, pirlo were or boateng, zlatan are then id strongly disagree


Said it before, say it again, our new brocchi. Clubs need reliable squad player. Type who you know what you get each time. Nothing more, nothing less

 

[crazy4milan]

He's a fine squad player but let's not exagerrate his potential. If you think he's a bonafide first 11 like gattuso, pirlo were or boateng, zlatan are then id strongly disagree


Said it before, say it again, our new brocchi. Clubs need reliable squad player. Type who you know what you get each time. Nothing more, nothing less

I would even say glorified Brocchi, Brocchi never got this much love by Milan fans . But yeah that's exactly what he is, and he's reliable in that sense, I'm sure that the minute we have our full squad available he'll be benched.

 

[Ashish]

Solid player and he will out survive every else here

 

[damn]

First you mention the names of Gattuso and Pirlo and then Makelele and J. Zanetti. Please don't use great players to defend a mediocre Nocerino.

like I said gattuso and pirlo where not great when we bought them.
zanetti was unheralded and wasn't considered anything special.
makalele was sold to because of his perceived limitations in spite of his great strengths.
all relevant to the point.

You didnt mention the fact that the other players you mentioned have talent while nocerino is just mediocre. If you want Nocerino in the long term plan of the club , then god save us.

it's your opinion that he doesn't have talent, its my opinion (and allegri's) that he does.
he may just not have the level of talent or characteristics you want.

He's a fine squad player but let's not exagerrate his potential. If you think he's a bonafide first 11 like gattuso, pirlo were or boateng, zlatan are then id strongly disagree


Said it before, say it again, our new brocchi. Clubs need reliable squad player. Type who you know what you get each time. Nothing more, nothing less

when we bought them, gattuso had squad player written all over.
pirlo was bought as an AM (he flopped there) and only a change of system bought the best out of him.
boateng was considered an EPL flop and a new low for milan. (for the record I was very happy about this signing)

whether he is considered a starter or squad player should be based on merit not on talent, potential, transfer fee, how many shirts he sells, public opinion.
his place in the squad should only be based on performance.

I would even say glorified Brocchi, Brocchi never got this much love by Milan fans . But yeah that's exactly what he is, and he's reliable in that sense, I'm sure that the minute we have our full squad available he'll be benched.

he was a starter when everyone was fit, so what gives you the belief that he wouldn't start now?

whether noch becomes a great player doesn't matter to me, the opinion of rival teams fans matters less, the success of milan is what matters to me and as of right now he is actively contributing to that success.

 

[Grandy]

It seems Nocerino never has chance to be a big star, but there is no doubt he is that kind of player with diligence and enthusiasm, every team needs guy like this.

 

[Goodfella]

This is in no way similar to the Makelese-RM situation.
Makelele is one of the greatest DMs of all time. Comparing him to Nocerino. Makelele's high quality was clear to see already in RM, which Nocerino's has never been.

Pirlo showed WC potential before we bought him. So did and do KPB. Anyway, you sound like we haven't bought Nocerino yet and want us to give him a chance to prove himself or that he's some kind of a teen prospect with WC potential. You also sound like I don't want him even for backup.

I want him here(as backup) and if he improves by a lot, and I mean A LOT(unrealistic) then I don't mind him being a starter.

He's been a starter for most of this season, but it's only because he was pretty much the only available B2B-player(KPB was used at CAM). I don't expect him to start though when Aqua returns now that Urby has shown he can do good at RCM and LCM. Also, we got Muntari now.

I'm just pissed off by all these bunch who want Aqua on the bench now that Urby has proved himself(like Noce is untouchable) and us to spend 70-80M on dream signings, none of them to replace Noce though. I'm also afraid these goals against shit opponents have convinced G not to buy Aqua or any new CM besides Monto.

 

[damn]

This is in no way similar to the Makelese-RM situation.
Makelele is one of the greatest DMs of all time. Comparing him to Nocerino. Makelele's high quality was clear to see already in RM, which Nocerino's has never been.

Pirlo showed WC potential before we bought him. So did and do KPB. Anyway, you sound like we haven't bought Nocerino yet and want us to give him a chance to prove himself or that he's some kind of a teen prospect with WC potential. You also sound like I don't want him even for backup.

I want him here(as backup) and if he improves by a lot, and I mean A LOT(unrealistic) then I don't mind him being a starter.

He's been a starter for most of this season, but it's only because he was pretty much the only available B2B-player(KPB was used at CAM). I don't expect him to start though when Aqua returns now that Urby has shown he can do good at RCM and LCM. Also, we got Muntari now.

I'm just pissed off by all these bunch who want Aqua on the bench now that Urby has proved himself(like Noce is untouchable) and us to spend 70-80M on dream signings, none of them to replace Noce though. I'm also afraid these goals against shit opponents have convinced G not to buy Aqua or any new CM besides Monto.

the point about makelele was that he was sold and under appreciated because he did not play in a way or have characteristics that the real madrid board wanted.
some fans are behaving in a similar way towards noch.

noch has only been here for half a season yet people are already righting him off.

people want a boxer to be a ballerina.

if you would like a more creative player in his position fair enough but don't diminish his contribution or effort.

a goal is a goal regardless of opposition.

I prefer the system to individual talent and noch may not be the best individual but he is very good for allegri's system.

 

[Sage]

Goodfella is a hypocrite IMO, he defends bonera because people hate on him and then he hates on nocerino for no good reason.

 

[Senatore_M84]

when we bought them, gattuso had squad player written all over.
pirlo was bought as an AM (he flopped there) and only a change of system bought the best out of him.
boateng was considered an EPL flop and a new low for milan. (for the record I was very happy about this signing)

whether he is considered a starter or squad player should be based on merit not on talent, potential, transfer fee, how many shirts he sells, public opinion.
his place in the squad should only be based on performance.




he was a starter when everyone was fit, so what gives you the belief that he wouldn't start now?

whether noch becomes a great player doesn't matter to me, the opinion of rival teams fans matters less, the success of milan is what matters to me and as of right now he is actively contributing to that success.

I hate to harp on age but nocerino is almost 27. At this age pirlo and gattuso ruled thewc and ucl when pirlo and gattuso came one was 20 the other 22 FARRR from finished products

 

[damn]

I hate to harp on age but nocerino is almost 27. At this age pirlo and gattuso ruled thewc and ucl when pirlo and gattuso came one was 20 the other 22 FARRR from finished products

that's a valid point.

I was just trying to illustrate that fact that we shouldn't close the book on a player.
he could improve, for all we know he could be the next toni or di natale.

even if he doesn't improve he is still a valuable member of the squad yet people treat him like he is bonera or antonini.

look, I would love to have yaya toure, hamsik and a couple of midgets from barca as our mid but its not gonna happen and its not noch's fault. yet it seems people blame him for not being cesc fabregas.

he might not be the player we wanted, but i think he was the type of player we needed.

 

[Nestafan]

that's a valid point.

I was just trying to illustrate that fact that we shouldn't close the book on a player.
he could improve, for all we know he could be the next toni or di natale.

even if he doesn't improve he is still a valuable member of the squad yet people treat him like he is bonera or antonini.

look, I would love to have yaya toure, hamsik and a couple of midgets from barca as our mid but its not gonna happen and its not noch's fault. yet it seems people blame him for not being cesc fabregas.

he might not be the player we wanted, but i think he was the type of player we needed.

He just needs rest, but with the injury crisis in midfield, he hasn't had a chance.

But seriously "couple of midgets from Barca"- shut up!

 

[Goodfella]

Goodfella is a hypocrite IMO, he defends bonera because people hate on him and then he hates on nocerino for no good reason.

If I go by this forum and other sites on the interwebs, Bonera is not even squad material, whereas Nocerino is even starting material and buying a better LCM than him would be unnecessary since he's top class. Some returds at the Rossoneriblog seriously claimed he would take a spot in Barcelona's first XI.

I defend those who get more shit than they deserve(Bonera, Urby, Abate post-derby, Binho, Aqua pre-injury, Ibra at times) and shit on those who get overrated/more love than they deserve(Noce, Pato, Zambrotta, Ibra & KPB at times).

 

[sushanmilano]

I have to agree with GoodFella. With this ridiculous overrating of Nocerino we may have to see one of Aquilani/ urby on the bench when the both of them have clearly demonstrated that they are clearly superior midfielders , defensively and offensively. Nocerino is good enough to be a back up player here , The problem arises only when he is regarded as a starter thus blocking the progress of better players

 

[melanman]

I think its a moot issue because Allegri picks the team, not us.

 

[damn]

I think its a moot issue because Allegri picks the team, not us.

thank you

if people have a problem with noch starting then they should blame Allegri.

 

[damn]

Goodfella is a hypocrite IMO, he defends bonera because people hate on him and then he hates on nocerino for no good reason.

no, it appears he hates nocerino because some people like him
hypocrite? maybe. deluded? possibly. crazy as shit? definitely.

If I go by this forum and other sites on the interwebs, Bonera is not even squad material, whereas Nocerino is even starting material and buying a better LCM than him would be unnecessary since he's top class. Some returds at the Rossoneriblog seriously claimed he would take a spot in Barcelona's first XI.

I defend those who get more shit than they deserve(Bonera, Urby, Abate post-derby, Binho, Aqua pre-injury, Ibra at times) and shit on those who get overrated/more love than they deserve(Noce, Pato, Zambrotta, Ibra & KPB at times).

who gives a fuck what Rossoneriblog blog or other poeple say make your own judgement based on performance. not how much someone is liked by others.

you are the definition of a "hater"

 

[MilanSpecialist]

i don't see how people can not like noce...hes not the greatest midfielder in the world, but damn hes got great work ethic on the pitch..very determined and it seems when he has boateng on the pitch with him, they make a very good combination..keep it up noce.

 

[Goodfella]

who gives a fuck what Rossoneriblog blog or other poeple say make your own judgement based on performance. not how much someone is liked by others.

I do judge by performances. That's why I hate that most Milan-supporter seem to think Noce is top quality and a new and better LCM isn't needed. Galliani seem to be buying the hype too. If he was actually great then I'd be all up on his nuts too no matter how much he'd get praised. Which is the case when it comes to TS and a couple else when they've been great in a larger period.

Good player, great attitude, but only bench material.

you are the definition of a "hater"

 

[damn]

I knew that was coming.

2012....*shakes head* you can't even insult someone anymore. their was a time when people would have trolled the shit out of me for that.

you are indeed a Goodfella.

 

[Senatore_M84]

I'm officially done criticizing this beautiful goon.

I thought his goalscoring was mostly luck, but really... he knows how to drive his shot on target. Do that, good things will happen.

 

[ToonInvader]

good intention from noce.

 

[Goodfella]

Didn't score the goal. It was an own goal. Should've passed instead.

Shit performance so far. Can't wait for Aqua to return.

 

[Kasoka]

Didn't score the goal. It was an own goal. Should've passed instead.

Shit performance so far. Can't wait for Aqua to return.

 

[LoLInter]

Didn't score the goal. It was an own goal. Should've passed instead.

Shit performance so far. Can't wait for Aqua to return.

Wow...

 

[Deleted member 24225]

thanks for the goal Noce too bad we didn't win

 

[milan88]

to be honest, I think he is a bit overrated
I prefer Boa, Aquilani even Flamini over him.
Lucky season for him

 

[leopard190]

No one thinks he's better than Boa or Aqua but Flamini is a clown