Italian Football Thread II

[dhorasoo]

While you're at it, dont forget what Milan ultras do.

Those were Torino hooligans.

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It's gonna be very very though, but we still have a chance. Let's not panic. I still believe, but everybody should step up. Both Allegri and the players.

If Milan do lose the Scudetto it's their own fault. Ibra, Allegri and Galliani shouldn't be complaining about that offside call (yes, it wasn't off side), but if Ibra, instead of doing absolutely squat the whole game, scored his first chance after ten minutes, the game would've been already over. If you're the leader, act like one. If you miss a chance like that, no problem, but continue to fight for every ball and not just stand around and shout at your teammates. Set an example.

Allegri, who I do like as a Milan coach BTW, f*cked the starting formation up. Seedorf is not gonna magically start running all over the place all of the sudden, he's static as f*ck, don't play him behind Ibra, that's suicide. How many times does Seedorf need to fail in that position before Allegri gets it? Allegri could've changed the formation after that horrible first half, but no, still he has to wait 15 minutes before doing something. Losing two points was partially his fault, by failing to repair an obviously wrong formation, and partially the players, by showing no hunger to win at all.

And Galliani needs to shut his face too about the referees, he's the main problem of the mess Milan are in. Buying friggin' bargains and out of contracts all of the time. Buy just ONE good left back, ONE good midfielder instead of a couple of average ones. Jeez, it ain't that difficult. Golden tie my hairy butt.

It's EVERYBODY's fault we're gonna lose this Scudetto, which was just up for grabs. Juve are good, but not great, Milan should've easily won this league. But everybody blaims the referees. I hope they'll learn their lesson for next season, but I haven't got my hopes up. I fear Allegri is gonna stay stubborn with his 4-3-1-2 all of the time and Galliani is already looking at out of contracts as we speak.

 

[Wild]

I'm sorry to Congo but Berlu's day are over. We need Barbara or someone sane to take over. Someone who doesn't sit watching Braca game with an angry face thinking our team can dominate Barca with a fucking ball of suck like Robinho.

I'm all for being positive, but Can anyone see any kind of Vision or plan in this team's management?

Fuck this year, my biggest worry is with the way things are happening, 6 years later Serie A will be a Second rate league and Milan will go back to a 20 year shitty era until some Berluish guy comes and buy it. Maybe I'm just panicking.

Am for Barbara.
At least if we lose she will flash a boob or something & we wouldnt even remember why are we so sad.

 

[luke07]

Am for Barbara.
At least if we lose she will flash a boob or something & we wouldnt even remember why are we so sad.

 

[Sod-Lod]

 

[Sod-Lod]

 

[Sod-Lod]

 

[acerвιc wιт]

People can't really put the blame on injuries and referee decisions when despite that we STILL did have a 4 point lead over Juve

And we still blew it playing the likes of Fiorentina and Catania

Sure, we did; however, does that mean we should just cast aside a significant turn of events that have impacted the Scudetto standings?

Imagine if Muntari's goal was allowed, the impact it would have on Juventus.

We were in a good position with a four point lead over Juventus, we were also fighting on three fronts, playing a game virtually every three days with limited preparations and key personal available. You also need to take these matters into account. We blew the lead, but we did so with numerous average/fringe players who were performing miracles on the most part. When only one striker hits double figures in your side, and the next highest goal scorer is a 500k-worth midfielder who prior to this season his career total number of goals was 7 in one hundred and forty-nine matches, I think it points a clear picture about the contrast of last season to this season.

 

[Ash]

Sure, we did; however, does that mean we should just cast aside a significant turn of events that have impacted the Scudetto standings?

Imagine if Muntari's goal was allowed, the impact it would have on Juventus.

We were in a good position with a four point lead over Juventus, we were also fighting on three fronts, playing a game virtually every three days with limited preparations and key personal available. You also need to take these matters into account. We blew the lead, but we did so with numerous average/fringe players who were performing miracles on the most part. When only one striker hits double figures in your side, and the next highest goal scorer is a 500k-worth midfielder who prior to this season his career total number of goals was 7 in one hundred and forty-nine matches, I think it points a clear picture about the contrast of last season to this season.

Doesn't change the fact that we blew a 4 point lead

It would have been understandeable if we had blown it playing the likes of Napoli and Udinese,,,,but who can justify it when we played an understrength and shit Fiorentina side at home and Catania?

Even our backups should have been more than enough for them...so if anything - the blame lies on the coach and the players for not getting the results needed...

Getting hung up on the past will get us nowhere. Exactly the reason why we have fallen so far from our former standards - cauz we refused to let go of the past....

 

[Azzurrii-08]

I believe we dropped points because of three main reasons:

- We play horrible/bad
- We got an injury crisis
- Some wrong referee decisions

After yesterday I do not believe we will end up winning the Scudetto anymore. That doesn't mean I don't have any hope though. I just do not see Juventus dropping enough points in the upcoming 5 games. They surely won't get beaten so we have to hope that they will draw.

We are 3 points behind them AND they have a better GD. So if I got it right it means we need 4 more points over them to win. Like I said before, I do not believe Juventus will lose any games this season. So we have to hope for them to play at least 2 draws and Milan to win all the remaining games.

Let's just hope for the best. I do not know which team will make Juventus drop points.

 

[acerвιc wιт]

I believe we dropped points because of three main reasons:

- We play horrible/bad
- We got an injury crisis
- Some wrong referee decisions

After yesterday I do not believe we will end up winning the Scudetto anymore. That doesn't mean I don't have any hope though. I just do not see Juventus dropping enough points in the upcoming 5 games. They surely won't get beaten so we have to hope that they will draw.

We are 3 points behind them AND they have a better GD. So if I got it right it means we need 4 more points over them to win. Like I said before, I do not believe Juventus will lose any games this season. So we have to hope for them to play at least 2 draws and Milan to win all the remaining games.

Let's just hope for the best. I do not know which team will make Juventus drop points.

Well put.

 

[manutd fan]

Can't compete anymore?

How much did you guys spend this summer again?

In a season where we lost Scholes, Neville, VDS, Brown, Hargreaves, O'Shea ect. That's about 480k a week gone. Our net spend over the last 4 years or so is about 20 million, which for a club that makes huge profits every year (ignoring the debt + family homes for the owners) is nothing. Over the last 3 years our net spend is less than Hull City, Burnley and Blackpool (all Championship clubs). Over the last 6 years it has been less than Villa, Sunderland + Stoke's whilst it's dwarfed by City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs.

I actually forgot about replying to this post.

he says fegie is focused on young players and there is no value in the market.

bro, if ashley young and jones cost around 15-20 million pounds each, sneijder is totally worth the 30million pounds or wtv.

The value in the market is a quote from Fergie. He's been saying it for years. We didn't sign Sneijder because his wages are too high.

There's only 4 clubs in the EPL that can actually spend a lot of money. 2 of them are from Sugar daddies who have ridiculous wages - I don't see how that's good for the EPL at all. It just forces more and more clubs to spend money they don't have.

Now an average player at any club looks at City and thinks if Clichy/Toure/Barry are on 100k a week I should be on something similar. That's why instead of buying players, more EPL clubs are spending time renewing contracts with young players before they start to ask for too much.

 

[Sod-Lod]

 

[TheoLeo]

Doesn't change the fact that we blew a 4 point lead

You're really hopeless......you still think real football is like a playstation game?

 

[acm55]

Prandelli off to Inter?
By Football Italia staff

Cesare Prandelli could reportedly quit the Italian national side after Euro 2012 to become the new boss of Inter.

According to reports on Monday, Nerazzurri chief Massimo Moratti wants the former Fiorentina tactician to take charge of the San Siro giants in the summer.

Although Prandelli is tied to the Italian Football Federation until the summer of 2014, he has admitted in the past that he does miss the day-to-day duties of club football.

Sky Sport Italia are this morning suggesting that Moratti is ready to hand the tactician a three-year contract at the Meazza worth €4m a season.

Prandelli would replace Andrea Stramaccioni who, in turn, would return to the Primavera set-up after being asked to replace Claudio Ranieri in March.

Should Prandelli stay loyal to the Azzurri, the Beneamata would then turn their attention to three other candidates.

Athletic Bilbao boss Marcelo Bielsa is liked, while France tactician Laurent Blanc and Luciano Spalletti of Zenit have also been associated.

Inter look like they will miss out of qualification for next season’s Champions League. They are currently seventh in the table, six points behind third-placed Lazio.

 

[Dottore Joey]

 

[Ramzee]

This is shit propaganda, how many soft penalties we have been given this season guys? Couple errors of refs is the blame of our shit displays? Are we worthy champions when we couldn't beat top Serie A clubs? I don't think so.

What mostly differs us from Juve is hunger and mentality. Juve are not that great, they are basically playing w/o CF, but their determination is examplery. Just watch how Ibra, Muntari, Robinho and some others act, they haven't been playing with much heart.

 

[Dottore Joey]

This is shit propaganda, how many soft penalties we have been given this season guys? Couple errors of refs is the blame of our shit displays? Are we worthy champions when we couldn't beat top Serie A clubs? I don't think so.

What mostly differs us from Juve is hunger and mentality. Juve are not that great, they are basically playing w/o CF, but their determination is examplery. Just watch how Ibra, Muntari, Robinho and some others act, they haven't been playing with much heart.

If Juventus win the title they deserve it.

But...

We've had 2-3 soft penalties, But we also have Ibra, Robinho etc. players that hold the ball well and hang on the ball in the penalty arena , when Juventus do not nearly spend as much time there hanging on the ball, but they are obviously always trying in every game to get penalty.

What bugs me is that we've scored now 3 legit goals which would all give us probably a victory (3 Points) rather than just 1 Point.

Getting Soft Penalties are common everywhere in the world, But taking goals away from you because of referee mistakes is really bothering, and people defend the referees that it's a human mistake, yeah but Milan seem to be the only victim in those incidents.

 

[Costanza]

This is shit propaganda, how many soft penalties we have been given this season guys? Couple errors of refs is the blame of our shit displays? Are we worthy champions when we couldn't beat top Serie A clubs? I don't think so.

What mostly differs us from Juve is hunger and mentality. Juve are not that great, they are basically playing w/o CF, but their determination is examplery. Just watch how Ibra, Muntari, Robinho and some others act, they haven't been playing with much heart.

That's the point I am trying to make.

This team has a lot of problems for sure, but Juve does too.

One thing that they are clearly ahead of us, is the personality, and hunger and the mentality toward games.

We could avoid losing the 4 point lead if our players didn't act so indifferent.

Last night , Juve's first goal, You could see in Vidal's eyes this guys is trying to make the most out of it, here in Milan an asshole like Binho misses open nets and doesn't even give the slightest type of fuck.

They believe in themselves, they enjoy being in lead. For us it's just too cool to be caring for these things. We are turning into Bayern while they're becoming BVB.

That's why I'm pushing for SES moving up the ranks and us kicking Binho out.

I hate to see a player that doesn't give it all every time he steps in pitch, and unfortunately that's the case with a lot of our players.

 

[Blade of Faith]

Nice recap
Jube fans should make the reply with their argument about our controversial penalties.

 

[Ramzee]

That's the point I am trying to make.

This team has a lot of problems for sure, but Juve does too.

One thing that they are clearly ahead of us, is the personality, and hunger and the mentality toward games.

We could avoid losing the 4 point lead if our players didn't act so indifferent.

Last night , Juve's first goal, You could see in Vidal's eyes this guys is trying to make the most out of it, here in Milan an asshole like Binho misses open nets and doesn't even give the slightest type of fuck.

They believe in themselves, they enjoy being in lead. For us it's just too cool to be caring for these things. We are turning into Bayern while they're becoming BVB.

That's why I'm pushing for SES moving up the ranks and us kicking Binho out.

I hate to see a player that doesn't give it all every time he steps in pitch, and unfortunately that's the case with a lot of our players.

This is why I am so sad about Pippo and Gattuso being both on retirement edge Both could drive mentally team alone, they are like fuel for a team. You always need guys who remind to you for whom you are playing, but now we got many old players who seen it all, many random grabs in transfer windows who don't have much passion about joining Milan etc.

 

[N3d0]

What goes around comes around... This year we had a lot of PK's awarded too easy, so now those bad calls in our favor came back to haunt us.

 

[Dottore Joey]

What goes around comes around... This year we had a lot of PK's awarded too easy, so now those bad calls in our favor came back to haunt us.

Wut?

Scoring Legit Goal and not getting is not the same as Soft Penalty.

Especially if those Penalties are just icing on the cake in most of our games.

These goals were crucial. Against Juve, Catania, Fiorentina and now Bologna.

 

[Ashish]

Shit happens all the time .. thats football Get over it

go out and raid downtown

 

[N3d0]

@Joey I was speaking in general.

 

[Blade of Faith]

What goes around comes around... This year we had a lot of PK's awarded too easy, so now those bad calls in our favor came back to haunt us.

These days part is "goes around, and hopefully we'll get "the comes around" 1000000000000x better.

 

[Congo Powers]

did this really happen?

 

[Zeusftw]

juve got a really soft penalty and a red card to the goalkeeper yesterday but noone seems to mention it since juventus is italys saints and we dont deserve the disallowed goals. LMAO WTF ARE YOU GUYS ON HAHAHAHAHAA. of course we deserve those goals. WE ACTUALLY SCORED THEM. what kind of logic is this -___-

 

[Jasper]

did this really happen?

again

 

[Dottore Joey]

I am sure Juventus are not cheating and i find these speculations ridiculous, but I'm just getting annoyed by our constantly Disallowed goals, they've been 4 Now, all decisive. We lost points because of these mistakes.

 

[TheoLeo]

Penalties, what penalties????
WOW now! we are going to bring up all the penalties given to us?
and most of them were soft? go the fuck out of here.
that's just fucking Ladri propaganda, to cover up all the favours they have had. like I said in other post, there are many more things refs can do to help one team.

we were given 9 penalties this season.
One season we were given 10 PK in first part of the season, and nobody was
complaining coz Juve were winning scudetto and we were not in the race!!

IIRR two were suspisious. Boa vs Parma.
well it was soft PK alright, but we were leading 1-0 and had a game undercontrol. 2nd one was Maxi vs Fiorentina and IMO it wasn't a PK at all! But that PK didn'thelped us did it. And about PK will be always arguments no matter how they're given. PK is not like goal, it is huge chance to score goal, and you have to score it.
this season Juve oponents missed 2 penalties (Roma & Napoli)......It is huge difference of giving PK and not give goal when the ball crossed the line... or they have a special rule for Milan that ball have to hit the net??????

So plz don't come here with that fucking Ladri propaganda