Andrea Pirlo Thread

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We would have regret letting him go if our game got affected by his absence which wasnt the case.
Milan is playing better with lesser players simply coz they fit the system & they are motivated unlike his midget ass.
Juve made use of him but that doesnt mean that Pirlo staying with Milan was to be good for us.
He wouldnt have played as good & continued his 5-6 years of mediocrity.
And then we would have a 4mil boring & sterile midget with a fat contract.
To bad we got affected by injury , but rather than letting him go was the right thing to do.
 

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Picture a midfield of:

Nocerino-Pirlo-Muntari
--------Boateng

That would work. Vidal and Marchisio are no better defensively, and Boateng tracks back and pressures as well.
 

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He possess the RARE gift of being someone who makes everyone around him better. Give me that any time over zlatan, ronaldinho etc.

u don't necessarily need to have that over zlatan or ronaldinho. He could play with them.
 

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Picture a midfield of:

Nocerino-Pirlo-Muntari
--------Boateng

That would work. Vidal and Marchisio are no better defensively, and Boateng tracks back and pressures as well.

noce and muntari is not gattuso prime :o

and pirlo defending ability now is just :fp:
 

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u don't necessarily need to have that over zlatan or ronaldinho. He could play with them.

he definitely played fine w/ zlatan cause zlatan aint anywhere in post-2007 Ronaldinho's laziness.

Actuall, zlatan's best 'cf' play was early last year cause pirlo was able to stretch the field and let him play more as a pure forward. I was excited to see it last all year, but pirlo got hurt, and clarence siezed the opportunity, like the sneaky bastard he is :D


For Ron, the issue is obvious.... you pass him ball, he stands still. I mean whats the point in having a good passer if you're not going to run onto the passes, you know?
 

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He possess the RARE gift of being someone who makes everyone around him better. Give me that any time over zlatan, ronaldinho etc.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Dont stretch it , the shit your are holding is barely fitting the bag.
Pirlo made limited players like him look better when they made him look better.
Players who cant make simple short passes like Gatu & co arent normal.
Name one Juve midfielder who is playing better than usual , ONE.
 
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technically.... we thought aquilani could replace him.

And while Aquilani cannot do it fully, we probably had enough other quality, that if aquilani stayed fit and we werent cheap as fuck, we'd be able to hold juve off.

But that's not how the cards fell, i suppose

You know, when discussing Pirlo's departure while he was still here, we all agreed that it would be better for us to change tactics/formations with a more orthodox holding midfielder enabling the two wider CMs to push forward and support the attack. And while Nocerino and Aquilani aren't top quality, you have to admit that Van Boss' inability to control at least some play against tougher opposition handicaps us much.

Sad thing is, Pirlo really never had proper shot at blending in well with Allegri's system. I mean, with these headless chicken pilling forward, who knows how well he could have played? I think he looked as good as Van Boss the little he played under Allegri.

But to think that he has almost singlehandedly turned a topish midtable side into serious contender and favorites to win is only testament as to what he can still bring to a team. Milan overlooked this.
 

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For Ron, the issue is obvious.... you pass him ball, he stands still. I mean whats the point in having a good passer if you're not going to run onto the passes, you know?

Milan-ron yes, but not the old ronnie... he'd go well with pirlo.
 

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You know, when discussing Pirlo's departure while he was still here, we all agreed that it would be better for us to change tactics/formations with a more orthodox holding midfielder enabling the two wider CMs to push forward and support the attack. And while Nocerino and Aquilani aren't top quality, you have to admit that Van Boss' inability to control at least some play against tougher opposition handicaps us much.

Sad thing is, Pirlo really never had proper shot at blending in well with Allegri's system. I mean, with these headless chicken pilling forward, who knows how well he could have played? I think he looked as good as Van Boss the little he played under Allegri.

But to think that he has almost singlehandedly turned a topish midtable side into serious contender and favorites to win is only testament as to what he can still bring to a team. Milan overlooked this.

Think this is very true.

One of the most frustrating things about Van Bommel is that he really doesn't participate in the build up play at all. It's a shame really, cause he's a pretty good passer, but most of the time he just stand around.

Last game was a good example of this. First 20 mins I'm not sure he had a pass further than 5 meters. Then at around the 20 minute mark I think he was asked to drop deeper and make himself more available, and lo and behold, we scored our first goal from an attack Van Bommel started. I just wish he'd do that more often... still though against more aggresive teams his technique is just to poor imo.

I'm not saying we necessarely need a Pirlo, because he is very specialised. But right now THE biggest problem our team has is our build up play. Against teams like Barcelona having Van Bommel or Ambrosini in the most central position in the team severely handicaps our ability to pass our way out of trouble, like a big club should be able to! Not because they're bad passers, but because they have bad technique, and aren't comfortable under pressure.
 

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during his two great years he wasn't "overrated", and you know that, mad.

He wasn't even overrated during the 09-10 season... Have ppl already forgotten about that?
 

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With Noce and Aqua, you need someone defensively strong like MvB. If Pirlo stayed and became the anchor in 4-3-1-2 we would be raped by Arsenal in both legs.
 

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Think this is very true.

One of the most frustrating things about Van Bommel is that he really doesn't participate in the build up play at all. It's a shame really, cause he's a pretty good passer, but most of the time he just stand around.

Last game was a good example of this. First 20 mins I'm not sure he had a pass further than 5 meters. Then at around the 20 minute mark I think he was asked to drop deeper and make himself more available, and lo and behold, we scored our first goal from an attack Van Bommel started. I just wish he'd do that more often... still though against more aggresive teams his technique is just to poor imo.

I'm not saying we necessarely need a Pirlo, because he is very specialised. But right now THE biggest problem our team has is our build up play. Against teams like Barcelona having Van Bommel or Ambrosini in the most central position in the team severely handicaps our ability to pass our way out of trouble, like a big club should be able to! Not because they're bad passers, but because they have bad technique, and aren't comfortable under pressure.

Yup, I'd agree with this. Its not only passing and vision though. Its also got a lot to do with control and the ability to hold onto possession without always intelligently playing for the foul.

Yes we would be raped if we fielded Noce - Pirlo - Aquilani. But had we signed a proper CM like Juve did with Vidal, then things would be a lot different. Juve's midfield > than ours, and Pirlo is the most influential player there.

BTW, Ibra has come, Dinho has come and gone, and yet Pirlo still holds the record for the most number of goals scored in a season by a Milan player from freekicks. How would you compare Juve's setpeices to ours?
 

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Oh god, here we go again. He is good! No, he is shit! It was the biggest mistake in history to sell him. Thank god he's gone. Fucking traitor left for juventus. Grazie Maestro for being who you are. :proud: We should have built the team around him. FFS we should have sold him after 2007. He is the best midfielder in history. He is the reason juventus will win the league. No did you forget MUNTARI'S GOAL!!! :mad: Pirlo single-handedly made juventus world class. Milan are playing better without him but the injuries screwed us and MUNTARI'S GOAL!!! He is better than van Bommel, can van Bommel make sexy long passes and score fk's? Can Pirlo defend? Pirlo was shit with Milan since 2007 and it was time to sell him. NOOOOOOO Pirlo was awesome it was just everyone else's fault... the players around him sucked and the management didn't 'build the team around him', he was GREAT when he played mezzala under Allegri (20 mins vs Roma). But... MUNTARI'S GOAL!!!

Close thread. :o
 

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^ :lol::thumbsup:

notion seconded ...

only to reopen and restart the cycle :D

Could imagine what would happen if he came back to Milan? Oh the drama :D
 

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Oh god, here we go again. He is good! No, he is shit! It was the biggest mistake in history to sell him. Thank god he's gone. Fucking traitor left for juventus. Grazie Maestro for being who you are. :proud: We should have built the team around him. FFS we should have sold him after 2007. He is the best midfielder in history. He is the reason juventus will win the league. No did you forget MUNTARI'S GOAL!!! :mad: Pirlo single-handedly made juventus world class. Milan are playing better without him but the injuries screwed us and MUNTARI'S GOAL!!! He is better than van Bommel, can van Bommel make sexy long passes and score fk's? Can Pirlo defend? Pirlo was shit with Milan since 2007 and it was time to sell him. NOOOOOOO Pirlo was awesome it was just everyone else's fault... the players around him sucked and the management didn't 'build the team around him', he was GREAT when he played mezzala under Allegri (20 mins vs Roma). But... MUNTARI'S GOAL!!!

Close thread. :o

:lol:

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With Noce and Aqua, you need someone defensively strong like MvB. If Pirlo stayed and became the anchor in 4-3-1-2 we would be raped by Arsenal in both legs.

You are gonna build your team around noce and aqua's needs? ;)
 

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I don't think Pirlo is a traitor. He is our legend, and one of the best playmakers in the world.
 

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Thanks Ashish! That is a true traitor :)
 

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Thanks Ashish! That is a true traitor :)
Deep inside you know you are lying to yourself.
Either all of Kaka , Sheva , Leo & Pirlo are traitors or no one is (which is what I think).
Pirlo is the only one who was under performing among all the above list.
They all performed less as soon as they left Milan.
So in a way , if the traitor theory is the road you wanna take , he is the biggest traitor of them all.

About Pirlo being all that.
How come no big team stepped in to secure such a class player ?
I mean imagine Xavi , Alonso , Yaya , Mascerano , etc ending their contracts &watch a world war fight from all the big clubs.
How come only Juve stepped in ?
I mean his saga its like Muntari's & co more than a good player for free.
Hunt is doing great in germany but we dont regret him since he didnt fit us & the same goes with Pirlo no matter how good he plays with Juve.
Good riddance.
 

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Deep inside you know you are lying to yourself.
Either all of Kaka , Sheva , Leo & Pirlo are traitors or no one is (which is what I think).
Pirlo is the only one who was under performing among all the above list.
They all performed less as soon as they left Milan.
So in a way , if the traitor theory is the road you wanna take , he is the biggest traitor of them all.

About Pirlo being all that.
How come no big team stepped in to secure such a class player ?
I mean imagine Xavi , Alonso , Yaya , Mascerano , etc ending their contracts &watch a world war fight from all the big clubs.
How come only Juve stepped in ?
I mean his saga its like Muntari's & co more than a good player for free.
Hunt is doing great in germany but we dont regret him since he didnt fit us & the same goes with Pirlo no matter how good he plays with Juve.
Good riddance.

You got me all wrong bro. Traitor for me is a player/coach that goes to Merda. I know we got Seedorf, Pirlo, and so on from Merda, but they became our club's legends and that's absolutely fine with me. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's just my opinion.
 

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You got me all wrong bro. Traitor for me is a player/coach that goes to Merda. I know we got Seedorf, Pirlo, and so on from Merda, but they became our club's legends and that's absolutely fine with me. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's just my opinion.
Juve are as bad as Inter , if not worse.
Leo was treated badly by B.
No money then as soon as he was gone we bought Ibra - Robi - KPB & more.
He reacted in joining Inter but it was a reaction.
He went there & fucked up Inter so he gave all to Milan.

Pirlo on the other hand went for free (Sheva & Kaka went for loads of $).
Pirlo was playing without caring while getting paid for 4-5 seasons & then he started caring with Juve (Sheva & Kaka played like shit when they left so they gave all to Milan).
Now tell me who do you prefer : players who give their bst for Milan then bring money to the club when they leave & play like shit with other clubs.
Or a player who @ best perform less than the above then play without passion for 5+ seasons & leave for free & perform better with an enemy of a club ?
If you take the second option then no use in arguing with u.

We all agree , now his fans confess , that his performance wasnt his best for a period of 5+ years.
So if we have kept him then why everybody think he would have changed & started to care ?
Most likely he would have continue to perform average.
To his luck that we got hit by injury or else he would have won shit with Juve.
Hunt is doing wonders in germany , shall we regret him ?
 

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