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did you said the same when Milan won in 2003 and 2007?, both were worse than today's final.

Fuck no
2003 was the best final that decade(ok maybe 2005...but I hate that final for obvious reasons)
It was energetic as fuck...both teams wanted the trophy...they didn't play so slow and like they didn't give a shit like Barca did today
 

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I am not saying Suarez is overrated, but people here do overrate him, when they mention him being more valuable and more important than Messi.
The guy is hands down the best CF in the world so its natural to praise him.
And for me his presence made the transformation of this Barca possible.
Its no coincidence that both Messi & Neymar play better when Suarez is moving like a tornado for 90 minutes.
The trio deserve all the praise then are getting.
 

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I did Say Pirlo> Xavi but there's no denying Pirlo played like ass tonight.

I think he was decent in the second half but he was worse than Marchisio and Pogba in the midfield for sure.
 

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Barca played like absolute trash today tbh
I bet we could have beat them lmao

Juventus Attack just sucks and they have no Attacking/Creative Midfielders like a Seedorf or a Kaka who can bring the ball to the strikers etc.

I wish there was a European Calciopoli finding Jube and Barca guilty of corruption...yuk...can't stand this garbage team anymore
 

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Xavi classy guy, hugged Pirlo and put a smile on his sad face.
 

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barca need to fix that defense asap. it's embarrassing, morata was giving them a hard time ffs.
 

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Euromax did fine considering he didn't have his best defender.

Only mistake was taking out Morata when Tevez was playing like shit.
 

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Fuck no
2003 was the best final that decade(ok maybe 2005...but I hate that final for obvious reasons)
It was energetic as fuck...both teams wanted the trophy...they didn't play so slow and like they didn't give a shit like Barca did today
seriously? 2003 second half was shit, horrible. The worst final of this century. Barcelona today played a good game, it was not there fault that Juve were crap. It would have been a bigger scoreline had Barcelona done better finishing.
 

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barca need to fix that defense asap. it's embarrassing, morata was giving them a hard time ffs.

players like Morata always trouble Barca though. It was from those days when Torres used to skin Puyol, they had not fixed those, they wont fix this time around.
 

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barca need to fix that defense asap. it's embarrassing, morata was giving them a hard time ffs.

You are talking like Morata is a fodder , the guy is difficult to contain for any defense in the world unless he is having a bad game.

But yeah their defense completely sucks.
 

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Suarez has always been a horrible finisher, praising Buffon for his imcompetence is not a good excuse. Neymar was cruising past Juve, if you did not noticed that I am sorry, I cannot help.


and those good moments= goals for the team. And the first goal was created after Messi changed the attack from one flank to other with his pass. His run architected the second and he was the organiser of the third goal. If you look it from Messi meter, yes a decent game, from normal standard, it was a good game, as good as the other two part of front three.


I am sorry but it seems we saw two different finals, Maradona was heavily marked, and was quite subdued, playing a safer game. He was no way dictating the game. He had key moments which led to the first and third goals.



come on apart from today and the Madrid games, Messi has tore apart every big team he has faced this season, he had legandary games against A. Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern, while having very good games against Valencia and PSG.

Buffon had been saving goals throughout the match from several Barcelona players, not just Suarez. I'm sorry if cruising past Juventus players means holding on to the ball for too long or trying to do a roll over fake trick and fail; then he definitely was cruising.

Despite Messi's good moments he had a lackluster performance. Everyone is praising Suarez since the man was constantly bullying Juventus defenders and trying to open up space for his teammates. Without him, Barcelona would have been shut down completely today.

I think you might be confusing the 1990 final with the 1986 final. In 1986 he was closely marked by Matthaus but found enough space to build attacks that eventually wore down the tight, well-organised German defense. In 1990 he was not good in the final but played well in the other matches leading up to it.

Messi started playing well in the second half of the season. First half he had the playmaker role but even then had some mediocre performances. Barcelona's success this season is on Suarez and his hard-work up front. Had he not come we would have seen the Barcelona of last season who played well against small teams but got owned against the big ones.

Now I want Suarez to leave Barca so Messi and Neymar can go back to flat-track bullying La Liga and being sexually assaulted by real teams.



Please new scandal Suarez so you can join Beelan, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzz

Yes pls. Suarez should bite Neymar and come to us.
 

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seriously? 2003 second half was shit, horrible. The worst final of this century. Barcelona today played a good game, it was not there fault that Juve were crap. It would have been a bigger scoreline had Barcelona done better finishing.

No that whole final was pretty fucking exciting...and felt like a real CL Final...not this garbage today where it felt like a shitty Serie A or Ligue 1 match
Barcelona played like shit,they seemed disinterested completely...but they were lucky Jube aren't that good
 
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Suarez Neymar with Messi feeding them from right, that's a monster attack line, can easily beat every team when all healthy. Madrid should have never let Suarez to go to Barca.

I can see them defending it, they don't need Xavi anymore and everyone is young and at their peak.
 

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Suarez Neymar with Messi feeding them from right, that's a monster attack line, can easily beat every team when all healthy. Madrid should have never let Suarez to go to Barca.

I can see them defending it, they don't need Xavi anymore and everyone is young and at their peak.

Not impressed tbh
A good organized defense can easily contain them
Messi has been complacent as fuck for years now and seems so lazy these days...not the unstoppable monster he was in the Pep era

I doubt they can defend it...and I fucking hope they won't cuz that would be a fucking joke...they had no business being in the final this year to begin with...Pep just gifting them entry to the finals...fuck him
 

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Buffon had been saving goals throughout the match from several Barcelona players, not just Suarez. I'm sorry if cruising past Juventus players means holding on to the ball for too long or trying to do a roll over fake trick and fail; then he definitely was cruising.

Neymar was a far greater threat than Suarez today. Suarez missed chances which could have dispatched if he was sharper.

Despite Messi's good moments he had a lackluster performance.

no he had a good game, in a game where there were no standouts, he was the fulcrum of the attack, playing parts in all goals. He and Neymar attacked and toutured Juve. But somehow Suarez overshadowed them for you, I mean Messi just broke Juventus with his run, for Suarez to poach on the loose ball after the shot. Still you forget to acknowlege Messi, but Suarez is somehow a messiah.

Everyone is praising Suarez since the man was constantly bullying Juventus defenders and trying to open up space for his teammates. Without him, Barcelona would have been shut down completely today.
that is not a the complete picture, Messi and Neymar were taking on Juve players one on one, dribbling past them, that had nothing to do with Suarez opening spaces. Suarez does have great workrate for a forward and his movement has been crucial, but I dont think, that is the sole or the best reason why MSN works.

I think you might be confusing the 1990 final with the 1986 final. In 1986 he was closely marked by Matthaus but found enough space to build attacks that eventually wore down the tight, well-organised German defense. In 1990 he was not good in the final but played well in the other matches leading up to it.

Maradona was injured and played way below his level in 1990, it was a great defensive team effort, which took them to the finals. Yes he had moments of magic like the Brazil assist, but he was utterly disappointing.
And yes I dont see much difference between his performance and Messi's performance today.
Messi started playing well in the second half of the season. First half he had the playmaker role but even then had some mediocre performances. Barcelona's success this season is on Suarez and his hard-work up front. Had he not come we would have seen the Barcelona of last season who played well against small teams but got owned against the big ones.

Messi had a great start to this season, he has been same as he always was. Yes he has been lazy, but that does not mean, he was crap or needed Suarez to rejuvate him, he was scoring and playmaking at a birsk rate. And last season, it was just Atletico who found a way to stop him, even then he did scored a league winner, which was wrongly cancelled. He destroyed Madrid in Liga and City in UCL. You seem to forget that Messi had an injury ravaged season last year.
 

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No that whole final was pretty fucking exciting...and felt like a real CL Final...not this garbage today where it felt like a shitty Serie A or Ligue 1 match
Barcelona played like shit,they seemed disinterested completely...but they were lucky Jube aren't that good

no it was not an exciting final. Italian sides playing in a big finals, never was, never has been never will be exciting. They need other teams to spice things.
Today's final was not great, but it was a dominant Barca final, where the best team in the world toyed with the Italian Champions.
 
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LMAO it was...2003 was the 2nd best final last decade...deal with it
Today's final was like a fucking friendly lmfao...fucking slow as fuck...like watching 60 year old grandpa's playing a charity match...disgusting...I nearly fell asleep
Barca didn't toy shit...they would have been destroyed if Ladri had a Big Game Striker and a WC Trequartista...and Ladri weren't even that good...it's just Barca's shitty defense was so fucking shitty...a good attacking team would have had a field day today

Football has gone down the shitter since 2006
 
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Not impressed tbh
A good organized defense can easily contain them
Messi has been complacent as fuck for years now and seems so lazy these days...not the unstoppable monster he was in the Pep era

Yup. :thumbsup: Dude has been disappointing. I used to be excited to see him play before. Now I'm just like meh.

Neymar was a far greater threat than Suarez today. Suarez missed chances which could have dispatched if he was sharper.



no he had a good game, in a game where there were no standouts, he was the fulcrum of the attack, playing parts in all goals. He and Neymar attacked and toutured Juve. But somehow Suarez overshadowed them for you, I mean Messi just broke Juventus with his run, for Suarez to poach on the loose ball after the shot. Still you forget to acknowlege Messi, but Suarez is somehow a messiah.


that is not a the complete picture, Messi and Neymar were taking on Juve players one on one, dribbling past them, that had nothing to do with Suarez opening spaces. Suarez does have great workrate for a forward and his movement has been crucial, but I dont think, that is the sole or the best reason why MSN works.



Maradona was injured and played way below his level in 1990, it was a great defensive team effort, which took them to the finals. Yes he had moments of magic like the Brazil assist, but he was utterly disappointing.
And yes I dont see much difference between his performance and Messi's performance today.


Messi had a great start to this season, he has been same as he always was. Yes he has been lazy, but that does not mean, he was crap or needed Suarez to rejuvate him, he was scoring and playmaking at a birsk rate. And last season, it was just Atletico who found a way to stop him, even then he did scored a league winner, which was wrongly cancelled. He destroyed Madrid in Liga and City in UCL. You seem to forget that Messi had an injury ravaged season last year.

I like Messi a lot. He's one of my favorite players but he is not on the level he was years ago. Years ago he was a monster, now he can be contained a lot easier if there isn't a CF to pull defenders away from him. The world cup is evidence of that and Barcelona last year as well before he got injured.

Suarez is the one pulling defenders. He is there to make Neymar and Messi have an easier time attacking and not getting closed down as much. He has to play the dirty role upfront so other players get freedom to move around. Look no further than their first game where Barcelona got defeated 3-1 and Suarez was not in form due to just making his debut for Barcelona that day. Once Suarez adapted they were able to defeat Atletico Madrid who had given both them and Madrid trouble last season (as well as this season). They also defeated every team they came across in the UCL with ease. Messi had a brilliant season overall but he also had a good CF to help him and that is something I don't overlook.

I'm aware Messi was injured for a couple months last year but it doesn't excuse his laziness and his complacent attitude this year.

Maradona > Messi anyday. Diego had grit and transformed an average team into a very good one. I don't see Messi doing that with Argentina or Napoli in the 80's.
 

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Yup. :thumbsup: Dude has been disappointing. I used to be excited to see him play before. Now I'm just like meh.

I don't even like him...and never liked him
But it's clear he's been getting lazy and has no motivation to win anymore
He reminds me of Slowdorf
Might as well hang the boots now since he's never going to win World Cup
 

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