European Coefficients Watch feat. Dr Galliani & co dominating the corridors of power

[Mr Delicious]

This is in two years. 18-19 season is when it takes effect. Not next season

 

[Casualista]

Appropriately updated the title.

 

[Jasper]

This is in two years. 18-19 season is when it takes effect. Not next season

Yeah, but qualification for 18/19 CL is from association (Serie A) seasons 17/18, which means 17/18 fourth spot gets to group stage.

 

[Jasper]

one tme, one last time

@MilanEye
Gandini: "My last success was guaranteeing Italy four spots in the Champions

@MilanEye
Galliani: "Gandini and I did everything together. I am very happy for his new venture at Roma. He served both Mediaset and Milan well."

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Umberto and Adriano Galliani & Gandini Gallianiboyz

 

[Jasper]

replace zenit with Galliani please - https://twitter.com/zenit_spb/status/771702140213616640

 

[VultureSheva]

It's reported some (including Ligue 1) are against the latest change of UEFA (Serie A with 4 clubs from 2018).

 

[Jasper]

I think they upgraded money for getting in and shuffled the money on top. Which meant associations 5-12 lost the most. NED should be leading the charge about this.

There was this also - http://forum.acmilan-online.com/showpost.php?p=2552256&postcount=16007

 

[necromancer]

I welcome Lyon, Sporting and Co to rebel and form a breakaway SuperLeague of Small Commode Clubs.

 

[Congo Powers]

@MilanEye
Gandini: "My last success was guaranteeing Italy four spots in the Champions

@MilanEye
Galliani: "Gandini and I did everything together. I am very happy for his new venture at Roma. He served both Mediaset and Milan well."

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Umberto and Adriano Galliani & Gandini Gallianiboyz

serie a has 4 CL spots from starting 2018/2019?

 

[Jasper]

serie a has 4 CL spots from starting 2018/2019?

Yeah, the way I get it Serie A 2017/18 fourth is in CL.

 

[Goodfella]

I think they upgraded money for getting in and shuffled the money on top. Which meant associations 5-12 lost the most. NED should be leading the charge about this.

There was this also - http://forum.acmilan-online.com/showpost.php?p=2552256&postcount=16007

EPL, Bundesfodder and La Liga......or just their provincial clubs who'll never see Europe?

LOL...Serie B. What are they butthurt about? And why are those traitors not executed yet?

 

[Jasper]

EPL, Bundesfodder and La Liga......or just their provincial clubs who'll never see Europe?

LOL...Serie B. What are they butthurt about? And why are those traitors not executed yet?

Well the wording is "participated". These leagues haven't signed the protest or anything. They're making it look bigger.

 

[Polotelli]

good start from Napoli

 

[Goodfella]

Ceferin hails Italy support

New UEFA President Aleksander Ceferin has hailed Italy for being “one of my biggest supporters” during his campaign trail.

Ceferin was unanimously sworn in as Michel Platini’s permanent successor on Thursday, the Slovenian having trumped opponent Michael van Praag by a landslide.

“Italy were one of my biggest supporters,” he said at a Press conference.

“When they started supporting me, it wasn’t very clear that I’d win.

“They had a special faith in me as a person. I’m grateful to Italy.”

 

[Jasper]

Are his quotes about new system just pandering? He said it was decided vaguely or sth. He was profiled as most anti-superleague candidate also.

Are the votes public?

 

[Goodfella]

Are his quotes about new system just pandering? He said it was decided vaguely or sth. He was profiled as most anti-superleague candidate also.

Are the votes public?

Probably.

Not sure. But FIGC, Bundesfodder and Ligue 1 declared they'd vote for Ceferin.
English FA for van Praag.

 

[Goodfella]

Europe's elite are shafting the poor so enjoy Leicester City while you can
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But first, Italy, the biggest winners in this new shake-up. The basics you already know. Serie A will soon have four teams, guaranteed, in the Champions League group stage, despite a quite disastrous record in the play-offs.

As of now, Italy get three teams into the tournament, except in six of the last seven seasons an Italian entrant has fallen in the preliminary elimination rounds.

Yet the rich kids of Serie A, the underachieving Milan clubs first among them, have made enough threats of a European breakaway in recent months to rattle rudderless UEFA.

So, from the season after next, half of the group stage places will be split between four countries: Spain, England and Germany — whose clubs tend to make the necessary progress through the play-offs — plus over-rated Italy.

A country that can barely merit three teams at elite level will now be entitled to one more, and no play-off required.

Yet, as with much of what UEFA do, the devil is in the details. And what details they are. On page 11 of the UEFA document announcing the new cycle, the extent of Italy's gain can be found; or, to be precise, the extent of the gain for one club: AC Milan.

That Giorgio Marchetti, UEFA's director of club competitions, should be one of the prime movers in the reorganisation of the Champions League co-efficients is no doubt purely coincidental.

Marchetti was born in Luino, north of Milan, was educated in Milan, and supports Milan. Not that he will have let that cloud his thinking when plotting this new course — or allowed Milan's enormous self-regard to skew the competition in their favour.

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[Jasper]

great article

 

[joyrider]

and people still wish death upon Berlu and Galliani

 

[Goodfella]

Against this list is another table, showing the positions after the new co-efficients have been calculated, over the same period. Milan are now ninth. And what did Milan actually achieve in that five-season spell to warrant this 16-place leap? Nothing.

Domestically, Milan came second in 2011-12 and third in 2012-13 — and then collapsed. A dramatic slide down the table saw them finish eighth, 10th and seventh last season.

Their European form confirms the same downward spiral. Champions League quarter-finalists in 2011-12, defeated by Barcelona. Out to Barcelona again the following season, this time in the last 16 and beaten 4-0 at Nou Camp. And then, season 2013-14, Milan's last in Europe. A 5-1 aggregate humiliation by Atletico Madrid in the last 16, including home and away defeats. Since when, nothing.

Milan have failed to qualify for Europe in the last two seasons over which UEFA's co-efficients were calculated. They are not involved again this year, either.

They finished four points adrift of Italy's final Europa League qualifier, the mighty Sassuolo. And yet, there they are, up 16 places on the back of half a decade in the wilderness.

In one mighty act of bureaucratic skulduggery, Milan leapt over what they would regard as their inferiors, the little big clubs: Arsenal, Manchester City, Valencia, Schalke, Sevilla, Zenit St Petersburg, Porto, Napoli, Bayer Leverkusen, Basle, Manchester United, Shakhtar Donetsk, Athletic Bilbao, Tottenham and Olympiacos.

And they didn't even have to be good enough to get into Europe to do it.

 

[KujaIX]

That article is so bitter.

"Milan are being rewarded for being decent over half a century ago!" 'with recent successes counting more' "shhh! Don't tell anyone they were the eminent team in the mid-2000s and the late80s-mid90s"

And the ol' classic "Great Madrid keep their spot" but nobody mentions their dreadful performance in the mid to late 2000s.

 

[Congo Powers]

In one mighty act of bureaucratic skulduggery, Milan leapt over what they would regard as their inferiors, the little big clubs: Arsenal, Manchester City, Valencia, Schalke, Sevilla, Zenit St Petersburg, Porto, Napoli, Bayer Leverkusen, Basle, Manchester United, Shakhtar Donetsk, Athletic Bilbao, Tottenham and Olympiacos.

 

[Congo Powers]

Yet the rich kids of Serie A, the underachieving Milan clubs first among them, have made enough threats of a European breakaway in recent months to rattle rudderless UEFA.

So, from the season after next, half of the group stage places will be split between four countries: Spain, England and Germany — whose clubs tend to make the necessary progress through the play-offs — plus over-rated Italy.

A country that can barely merit three teams at elite level will now be entitled to one more, and no play-off required.

Yet, as with much of what UEFA do, the devil is in the details. And what details they are. On page 11 of the UEFA document announcing the new cycle, the extent of Italy's gain can be found; or, to be precise, the extent of the gain for one club: AC Milan.

 

[Congo Powers]

 

[Jasper]

 

[General]

this page

 

[Soldier_of_god]

That article is so bitter.

"Milan are being rewarded for being decent over half a century ago!" 'with recent successes counting more' "shhh! Don't tell anyone they were the eminent team in the mid-2000s and the late80s-mid90s"

And the ol' classic "Great Madrid keep their spot" but nobody mentions their dreadful performance in the mid to late 2000s.

This is gold haha.

 

[Jasper]

‏@acmilan
Aleksander Čeferin has been elected as the new president of @UEFA: congratulations and good luck! #UEFAPresident

Добро пожаловать шеф!

Great Footballing Nation of Estonia also voted Saša! #keyplayer

 

[Jasper]

Where is Wes? Bugs bunny the article ples.

 

[necromancer]

Best article of all time.

How can you not love G after this?

Berlu took Milan from courts to CL in 1986. Galliani from midtable to CL, 30 years later.