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The Rumour Commode XLIV: Paragliding to Piolistine Crisis

Rigore to save your life: choose your player


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I love the coping and deflecting, especially because Roma is the antithesis of all the excuses over what holds Pioli back.

Lol. Fucking hilarious.
 
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Calabria as our CM shows how little quality we have. What CM do we have who could pass and dictate play from a central position in front of the defense? We have no CMs capable of that.

De Rossi is a super experienced manager who has shown how great a manager he is, at the top clubs like Man City, Real, and Bayern.

Roma's squad quality is insane, what do you want Pioli to do?

El Shaarawy?? That is the sort of winger that Pioli can only dream of having, I heard Pep wants to sign him. Bove as a CM? Bove? Roma have the resources that our Moncada approach can't match. He's not even first choice, but Cristante, who wasn't playing, is a player that is beyond our means! And Paredes? How many games have we seen Paredes and said "wow, that is Rodri and Xavi in one player!"

We can't be upset about losing to Roma. They are a juggernaut of Europe who have players we can only dream of.

We had to use Musah as a RWB and Calabria as a CM while keeping Theo as far back as possible! Theo is so weak at attacking and Calabria so good at it, what else do you want Pioli to do??
 
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Bad losses are okay, but with him we have too many.

Having bad losses is also ok if we can compensate them with big wins that were unexpected.

We only had that against Napoli last season and I guess that win in Wanda.
2 things I really really despise
Losing big games to big teams and having shit strikers.

Honorary mention to having crap cbs as well
 
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I love the coping and deflecting, especially because Roma is the antithesis of all the excuses over what holds Pioli back.

Lol. Fucking hilarious.
They all suck. Pioli sucks. Team sucks dick too. Fucking bbeeelan useless team. Should be in French league 1. We would finish 4th there too.
 

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Nope we never ever once beat roma when lukaku dybala both started. Every time we played them they missed both and also Tammy Abraham dint play the first 2 times we vs them.

It was that other Italian bitch. Former torino fodder belotti
Please stop.
 

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Nope we never ever once beat roma when lukaku dybala both started. Every time we played them they missed both and also Tammy Abraham dint play the first 2 times we vs them.

It was that other Italian bitch. Former torino fodder belotti
Oh but my brother, Lukaku was subbed after 29min, Dybala after 43min and we looked clueless against 10-men Roma B- squad the whole game
 
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Nah, highly unlikely he’d agree unless he has jobs lined up.

And from what people say about him here, that he’s clueless and a moron, what other club would pay him to get us off the hooks?
He is not dump . Some times it is better to leave instead of to be kicked out . There are clubs in Serie A which needs a coach , so he will find a job .
 

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They all suck. Pioli sucks. Team sucks dick too. Fucking bbeeelan useless team. Should be in French league 1. We would finish 4th there too.
Look, there is always a limit to anyone, a player, an owner, a manager. Things have to come together, it's a team sport, and I mean that beyond the 11 on the field, or even the squad.

You could argue that lucky bounces off bars and deflections decided this tie. It's a low scoring game.

But Jesus Christ these games against Roma were such glaring examples of the manager fucking up, so please, spare me.
 
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the only losses i would consider really bad are the one against liverpool kids and inter because it was a derby and we were hopelessly outclassed

but dortmund, chelsea and psg are top teams with so much individual quality that they can beat any team on a good day

even city lost 0-2 at paris once. why should that be a bad loss for this milan team?

the expectations some people here have and the performances our players show regularly at this level are miles apart

Don’t entirely agree but I get your point
 
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Compared to their prior years this team isn't that good. Some past it players

How is this possible....just a few days back you were telling me how they are a well run club and we should look upto them.
 
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I do not know the clauses of his contract . Maybe it could be arranged .

Honestly we should have hired sarri before he went to napoli almost a decade back.

I remember we played his empoli side who tore us to shred. But because they had 2 elder statesman as their front men struggled to score. We drew that game 2-2. It was the one where Fernando Torres scored for us.

A decade late sure. But he is definitely the best Italian for milanistas.
During his tenure Napoli played the most entertaining football in Italy and scored tons of goals with Higuain capocannoniere with a record 36 scored. After Gonzalo moved to Juventus Sarri invented Dries Mertens as striker despite his height and the Belgian went on to be Napoli's all time record scorer and was loved by fans who called him Ciro, a common Neapolitan name and the name he gave his own son. A coach needn't be a player's friend or surrogate father but the boss who might be tough but a figure to be respected.
 
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Sarri was successful at juve, chelsea and napoli....not sure why he gets so much hate
Because he's not hansome, doesn't dress well, and smokes like a Turk. (no offense to Turks).
 

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During his tenure Napoli played the most entertaining football in Italy and scored tons of goals with Higuain capocannoniere with a record 36 scored. After Gonzalo moved to Juventus Sarri invented Dries Mertens as striker despite his height and the Belgian went on to be Napoli's all time record scorer and was loved by fans who called him Ciro, a common Neapolitan name and the name he gave his own son. A coach needn't be a player's friend or surrogate father but the boss who might be tough but a figure to be respected.

Also at napoli he went toe to toe with that juventus side and pushed them all the way. I think he might have even set some record pointsntally.

Even during his epl era. He took on city ... drew one game 0-0 and took them to penalties in the league Cup. Chelsea really messed up by sacking him. As did juve who haven't won a league title since they got rid of him.
 

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If Pioli elicits this much rage, I guess I'm glad that I blotted out people's reactions to our banter managers. I wasn't even around for Gattuso and Giampaolo :lol:

So much anger for comfortably sitting in 2nd. Yes, we've been playing like ass for a few games, but to Padre's credit, we always seem to get back on track. We'll likely get spanked the next couple games, but I see us finishing pretty strongly and sending off Pioli respectfully. He deserves that. Hopefully Cardinale doesn't pull another Maldini and plays cold hearted corporatist.
 
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De Rossi is a manager beyond our level! Could we ever afford a manager like that?

Bove and El Shaarawy are such incredible players, how can you expect to beat teams like Roma??? Roma??? You crazy??

Roma. They are perennial winners of trophies. Look at their European trophies! Domestic trophies!

So silly of us to have such silly expectations! Why expect to win any game if you think about it? When facing teams like Lecce and Sassuolo, the players we have, we don't have quality. We just don't.

Leao? Lol, wtf is a Leao compared to El Shaarawy? Bologna have Saelemaekers! They're 4th place, above 5th placed Roma, a team we can only dream of beating. Remember banter era?

You fools. De Rossi is paid like 79m a year, and has so much experience. Do you know how much experience? Like 20 Serie A games! That's like... a lot, guys.

Paredes is a CM that everyone here drools over. And guess who Roma had on the bench for CM? Renato Sanches! Look at that quality!

You complain, but our players just can't handle Bove and El Shaarawy! And Mancini? One of the best CBs in the world!! Celik? A RB who I hear will replace Kyle Walker!

We just played Roma guys. Roma. Adjust your expectations, because top 4 is a huge achievement and beating a team that is 5th in Serie A (behind the new Man City of Serie A, Bologna, with Alexis Saelemaekers) is something we can't expect.
 
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Sarri was successful at juve, chelsea and napoli....not sure why he gets so much hate
12th place with Lazio with 11 points behind 4th.

That’s Giampaolo level
 
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Please stop.
Have a look. Show me one game where we best roma with both lakaka and lesbian bitch starting?? We dint but that doesn't mean pioli hasn't been bad either.
 

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I think Sari is 3 times the coach Pioli is. Sarri also overperformed with Lazio for quite a while.

Hes a tough character though...needs a right fit. Not sure if he would fit in here.
Our players are spoiled and don't respect the coach, I think Sarri would bring the discipline that we lack.
 
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How is this possible....just a few days back you were telling me how they are a well run club and we should look upto them.
Well run club is not the same as them being a goat club? Da FAQ you talking about?

They are a sustainable club. We need to aspire to be like them financially. Not depend on a business tycoon.

Performance wise why wouldn't I want us to be like them,? They reached semis with one of their weaker sides in about a decade.
 

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Look, there is always a limit to anyone, a player, an owner, a manager. Things have to come together, it's a team sport, and I mean that beyond the 11 on the field, or even the squad.

You could argue that lucky bounces off bars and deflections decided this tie. It's a low scoring game.

But Jesus Christ these games against Roma were such glaring examples of the manager fucking up, so please, spare me.
Not manager alone. It's on players too. You can't make claabria giroud bennacer look like they are quality players. You just can't.
 

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Which Italians available would have helped us during our tough time? Maybe Chiesa and di Lorenzo but that’s about it

Definitely Di Lorenzo, Jorginho could have been an option for the midfield, salary may be a bit of an issue but still manageable.
 
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Our players are spoiled and don't respect the coach, I think Sarri would bring the discipline that we lack.
Our players are spoiled?

They aren't spoiled, they're being told to do stupid things from a guy who left our best CM on the bench and held Theo back and let Calabria and Gabbia lead our attack.

They are told to cross, that's what we do. Chuk, Okafor, Leao, Pulisic are all crossing. It's an obvious instruction, they're all doing it.

The lack of organization and coherent plan is so obvious. Yesterday wasn't about heart, it was about comically stupid plans.
 
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just gimme a coach that can fucking teach this squad some passing patterns
To defend first, to give a shit second, to have attention to detail third
- Then we can worry about passing patterns

Damn - 5 pages. Missing out on the wake
 
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Oh but my brother, Lukaku was subbed after 29min, Dybala after 43min and we looked clueless against 10-men Roma B- squad the whole game
Yes but they started. We also have serious issues vs tammy Abraham too.

We still haven't beaten roma at full strength.
 

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Not manager alone. It's on players too. You can't make claabria giroud bennacer look like they are quality players. You just can't.
How did De Rossi make his players look like quality? Lukaku and Dybala do that too?

Give me a break.
 

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Samaldildo with his weekly Friday morning theses. Days off unhinges some of you, it's sad. Make some tea. Eat a little breakfast. Go for a walk. It's just Meelan.
 
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What really annoyes me in our play is how easily we lose the 2nd ball. Also in that Roma goal, Gabbia has all the time - and what does he do? Passes it straight intoo Roma players feet. It happens so often!! Panic mode all the time
 
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