Andrea Pirlo Thread

[Senatore_M84]

Goal-line clearance in 1st half usually haven't seen big teams in SerieA nor Azzurri placing a player at the post during corners.

milan v. madrid, when he cleard it twice with headers

 

[Sage]

average game, his main contribution was the goal line clearance.


balotelli for ballon d'or

 

[Kalac#16]

Still does that thing where once somebody starts to get past him he just blissfully jogs back in another direction.

 

[sushanmilano]

Still does that thing where once somebody starts to get past him he just blissfully jogs back in another direction.

Still does that thing where once somebody comes near him , he does a 360 and gets past them . #Pirlo4BallonD'or2012

 

[Sage]

unless he has a MOM amazing performance against spain, he blew any chance of the ballon d'or with that average performance, now before the pirlo fan boys attack me like wild bull dogs, I said he was average, not bad.


however, balotelli is going to be looked at now

 

[Wild]

I think Pirlo was good & not average.
However am yet to see a team who bothered Italy & maybe Spain will do just that & then we can judge Pirlo of this euro.

you still won't address my point that he didn't individually play poorly with milan. His passing was the same it's always been. Milan just didn't do shit with it.


He's was still completing passes at same percentage. Completing long balls at same percentage, completing forward passes at same rate.

We just did jack shit with it in a post sheva era when milan became more static that majority of this forums sex life.

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I just can't help but feel like we wasted a great talent and a hard one to find.

How come others managed to still shine despite playing in the same team ?
Come on, dont stretch that theory since its easier now to circulate since he won a title.
Milan gifted Juve the title & if that didnt happen then we wouldnt even regretting letting him go & we would be talking how letting him go was the right choice.
Current Pirlo with Juve & Italy is better than the Milan Pirlo which make the "he never cared" more logical than "we wasted him" if you think about it.
In a way its more like he wasted his own career.

 

[ELMAGO99]

I agree with Wild, we should have won the title regardless.

However, any system must revolve around Pirlo. He's like the Point Guard. He always wants the ball deep to orchestrate. If a system is built around a CDM destroyer, that won't work and he will get in the way of Pirlo. UNLESS you play a 4-2-3-1 with wingers who make runs... but we don't play that way...

We don't even have good FB's to make runs on the wing.. therefore yes, Pirlo in Milan is a fucking waste.

And Honestly, if I could take the Italy National Team as AC Milan, I would in a heartbeat.

 

[Senatore_M84]

How come others managed to still shine despite playing in the same team ?
Come on, dont stretch that theory since its easier now to circulate since he won a title.
Milan gifted Juve the title & if that didnt happen then we wouldnt even regretting letting him go & we would be talking how letting him go was the right choice.
Current Pirlo with Juve & Italy is better than the Milan Pirlo which make the "he never cared" more logical than "we wasted him" if you think about it.
In a way its more like he wasted his own career.

Who shined?

KAka? Kaka's a soloist though, he's not a passer first. He takes people on. And anyway his play dropped comparative to pre-2007.
Gattuso? Gattuso wins balls, that's what he does
Ambrosini? Played his game too.

SeedorF? Seedorf was certainly a mixed bag.

Pato? Pato's best season was not that good. 15 goals and 5 assists in 36 games (29 starts). Amazing for a 19 year old but if sheva or zlatan gave us that (IE lead striker) we'd say it was inconsistent and poor. And he was inconsistent, as expected for a 19 year old?

Boriello? Huntelaar?

Ronaldinho? The team was taylored around him.

What I'm saying is pirlo plauyed his game the same he always has. He didn't have team to take advantage of him.

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And no, if we won scudetto it wouldn't have mattered. Pirlo leading juventus to 2nd with that record, regardless was impressive. Not one striker topped 10 goals.


It was just a complete waste to ever bring ronaldinho and not build a sqwuad around pirlo's p[assing control of midfield and kaka's final 3rd

 

[Wild]

For me Seedorf > Pirlo with Milan.
So thats one.
Gatu will do good regardless of what team you play him.
The majority of our midfielders outperformed him in all of his time with Milan.
A world class player should shine regarldess of any other factor.
if he was a striker then you could have a case since he is service dependable.
Pirlo is the one who should provide & he wasnt doing so like he is doing now with Juve & Italy & dont tell me Milan was shit coz that wasnt the case few years back.
Also he used to lose the ball much easier than now & he used to go careless mode much more than now.
Either he never cared for Milan , Milan treatment triggered him or he just became better when he is 33 years old.

 

[Sage]

a great player shines when his team is down, pulls them up and takes them to the next level, sadly pirlo is not a great player in that regard, he needs a specific set of players/system far more than a team would need him.


put de rossi at anchor and play marchisio/montolivo/motta and they would still do well and be far more secure defensively.

 

[SpartanMilan]

a great player shines when his team is down, pulls them up and takes them to the next level, sadly pirlo is not a great player in that regard, he needs a specific set of players/system far more than a team would need him.


put de rossi at anchor and play marchisio/montolivo/motta and they would still do well and be far more secure defensively.

so who is a great player then in your opinion?

 

[Forza AC Milan]

Pirlo haters just need to give it up ok. This guy has always been a great player even though him and slowdorf started to stroll around the pitch post 2007.

I do respect Wild to an extent for giving Pirlo his props when due sometimes.

He has been Juve's best player this season and kicking butt all season. He has done great for himself

 

[hdcantona]

http://www.thehardtackle.com/2012/uefa-euro-2012-andrea-pirlo-doesnt-need-ballon-dor/

 

[Marcus]

http://www.thehardtackle.com/2012/uefa-euro-2012-andrea-pirlo-doesnt-need-ballon-dor/

The last quote was just "Grazie Maestro for being who you are.".

 

[seveners]

http://www.thehardtackle.com/2012/uefa-euro-2012-andrea-pirlo-doesnt-need-ballon-dor/

Simply beautiful.

 

[necromancer]

Nice article. Sachin_tht, I like this Amlan Majumdar more than you.

Goal-line clearance in 1st half usually haven't seen big teams in SerieA nor Azzurri placing a player at the post during corners.

Yeah.. So Ashley Cole. You wont believe it, but when I saw Pirlo walking to the post before the corner was taken, I had a strong feeling that it would be a goal-line clearance.

 

[crazy4milan]

At 2:05...Pirlo knows his job during set pieces for the other teams.

 

[jammin]

he should attempt a solo run at one point against Spain. will be the slowest (yet sexiest) dribble ever seen.

 

[Blade of Faith]

http://www.thehardtackle.com/2012/uefa-euro-2012-andrea-pirlo-doesnt-need-ballon-dor/

@ Amlan Majudar

"Passing to Iniesta and passing to Montolivo is certainly not the same thing."

 

[Dzidzius]

I agree that he has been average the last few years but realisticaly he is the top of Golden Ball contenders. He won Serie A with Milan, Serie A with Juve - like it or not he was also instrumental with his last season playing for us, now just won at least the silver euro medal. Instead of bashing guys why not just be proud of our legend?

 

[Dark Knight]

average game, his main contribution was the goal line clearance.


balotelli for ballon d'or

Average? So unless a player goes past 4 players or scores a goal he is average. Italy is a fluid team because of pirlo. He even had a goal line clearence. Did u see 3 germans player standing infront of him when he started the move for the first goal? Thats 3 players who were not marking someone else because they were too busy with pirlo. How many times did he looked outnumbered and still manage to build italy's attack..actually germany changes the way they play, their personnel to stop pirlo and they couldnt.

There is a reason why after the match klinsmann and vialli both agreed germany couldnt stop pirlo. Balotelli was great and a goal scorer always takes the limelight specially if he is an enigmatic figure like balotelli but Pirlo was class yesterday.

Still does that thing where once somebody starts to get past him he just blissfully jogs back in another direction.

And thats why he is in a pretty great position to start counters.

a great player shines when his team is down, pulls them up and takes them to the next level, sadly pirlo is not a great player in that regard, he needs a specific set of players/system far more than a team would need him.
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i see your point and raise you this:

"Milan believed Pirlo was finished and let him go to Juventus. He now won the title with Juve and leads his country to the final. Top player." Vincent Kompany

 

[necromancer]

^Fantastic post actually, but by now you should know that certain battles are pointless to fight here

 

[sushanmilano]

Someday I am going to punch Allegri in the face for causing me so much pain. Enjoy Bakaye traore now you sack of shit.

 

[Dark Knight]

^Fantastic post actually, but by now you should know that certain battles are pointless to fight here

haha i do.. thats why i never get into those great kalu - tfat- sage debates or anyones with ashish (he is funny though). But calling Pirlo avg in this match i guess was too much for the fanboy in me

 

[Kalac#16]

Still does that thing where once somebody comes near him , he does a 360 and gets past them . #Pirlo4BallonD'or2012

However since I'm talking about when he doesn't have the ball, that's pretty irrelevant.

 

[Senatore_M84]

Average? So unless a player goes past 4 players or scores a goal he is average. Italy is a fluid team because of pirlo. He even had a goal line clearence. Did u see 3 germans player standing infront of him when he started the move for the first goal? Thats 3 players who were not marking someone else because they were too busy with pirlo. How many times did he looked outnumbered and still manage to build italy's attack..actually germany changes the way they play, their personnel to stop pirlo and they couldnt.

There is a reason why after the match klinsmann and vialli both agreed germany couldnt stop pirlo. Balotelli was great and a goal scorer always takes the limelight specially if he is an enigmatic figure like balotelli but Pirlo was class yesterday.

Taking it a step further, he was basically double marked all match.

He still had no problem taking ball under pressure and spreading it.

The amount of attention kroos, schweini and khedira paid to him (ineffectively by the way) opened up a lot of space for montolivo, ddr.

Montolivo had no one with in a mile of him for the assist. And as nice as it was, it was a pass BEHIND Balotelli.

All that said, pirlo still had most touches, most passes and at over 90%, being able to take it under pressure and move it, keep the fluidity is vital.

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Why do you think every coach/player interviewed said he was class yesterday? You think they don't know what they're talking about. Pirlo does so many things the novice won't catch but he makes everyone better, which is why i keep harping at it. Would have rather built around him than any attacker berlusconi has jizz over for 5 years.

 

[Sage]

fairy improved later in the 2nd half when the whole german team was on attack and fell apart, but he wasn't much before that, did well with a couple of dribbles though.

@m84, you need to get over it man , you can still enjoy him at ladri, maybe cheer for them too

 

[Sage]

"Milan believed Pirlo was finished and let him go to Juventus. He now won the title with Juve and leads his country to the final. Top player." Vincent Kompany

I guess kompany's quote totally beats 5 years of mediocrity at Milan.

 

[ykou]

Considering the decisions made by Gattuso, Nesta, etc, I have to say Pirlo is a traitor. At least, he doesn’t have true love with this club.

 

[Sage]

Considering the decisions made by Gattuso, Nesta, etc, I have to say Pirlo is a traitor. At least, he doesn’t have true love with this club.

here's something you should know about the rabid fan boys that will attack you for this, fairy can take a dump on a Milan jersey and broadcast it all over the world, they still wouldn't call him a traitor.


hell some might respect it and love him for it.