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We must get a better goalkeeper too,
Striker can afford to make a lot of mistake as long as they still score at end of the day.
But goalkeeper cannot afford a single one.
 

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Edi said:
That is why I prefer we buy some world class striker rather then Ronaldinho. We can return to our usual style of play with Kaka behind two strikers which was very effective in the past...
I agree with you on that count. But IMO there are players we can change our formation for, and Ronaldinho is one of them. I won't clamour for his arrival, but I won't complain if he arrives, given the price is reasonable of course.
 

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Jose said:
We were a central team, but we had Shevchenko upfront, so that overshadowed that we are a central team.
When Sheva left, we had no out of the box striker who can dribble + assist + score, and no wings, with two poachers upfront (one of them is Gila :D) so we struggled.
We missed out on Ibra, and Torres who were the best 2 to fill in Sheva's position.
Exactly. We missed out on top drawer strikers because of Calciopoli. But just because we missed out once doesn't mean the only way out is to change our style of play. There are still a clutch of quality strikers that can do the job: Eto'o, Villa, Berbatov and Fred.
 

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I won't clamour for his arrival, but I won't complain if he arrives, given the price is reasonable of course.

Yeah but what is a reasonable price for Ronaldinho? He won't come for anything under 30-35 million euros which IMO is way to expensive...
 

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Italian Tsar said:
Exactly. We missed out on top drawer strikers because of Calciopoli. But just because we missed out once doesn't mean the only way out is to change our style of play. There are still a clutch of quality strikers that can do the job: Eto'o, Villa, Berbatov and Fred.

Good points and I agree, but are u sure about Fred? The rumours surrounding him seems to have died down, and no big clubs seem to be after him nowadays..
 

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^^He's not scored as many goals this season and Benzema is the hottest thing in Lyon right now.

Regarding changing formation. Our formation is currently central and full of players who don't fall into your traditional position. We'd have to have to buy and sell alot just to change formation which doesn't exactly make sense. It's better to buy a couple players who can allow us to that if we need to.

For instance, Liverpool, despite their need for a bigger squad to cover Rafa's rotation brought in two wingers to give them more options.

Reinforcing our current team with improved players in the same positions will go a long way, unless we get a major transfer which deserves changing the formation around. Then after improving certain positions we can look at transfers which give us options.
 

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Why fix what isn't broken?

Our formation isn't the problem it's the players inconsistentcy which is the problem. This complied with the fact we don't possess a creative striker to take the pressure off the likes of Kaka and Seedorf as well as one who can finish half chances adds to the sides woes.

Pato and Ronaldo will provide this aspect for Milan which will definately increase our performance and moral of the side. January purchases are inevitable and we are in a commanding position to snare some world class players after our recent successes in 2007.

I would like some purchases which will enable us to have alternatives in style of play, e.g. purchasing wingers which will help us penetrate the defences of domestic sides, allowing Milan more width to help open up sides through the centre of the park, and when you have Kaka, Seedorf and Pirlo with more room to move in the middle the opposition are really in danger.
 

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we need a striker simple as, look at liverpoo last couple of years struggled for goals now with torres in the team they are totally different and if benitez didn't rotate so much they would still be within sight of utd and arsenal. 9 in 13 in epl and 3 in 4 in cl thats what we need a striker and most of our problems will go away.
 

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Dann said:
we need a striker simple as, look at liverpoo last couple of years struggled for goals now with torres in the team they are totally different and if benitez didn't rotate so much they would still be within sight of utd and arsenal. 9 in 13 in epl and 3 in 4 in cl thats what we need a striker and most of our problems will go away.
Yeap, a striker with 20-25 goals a season is exactly what we need.Since Sheva's departure we havent seen any striker arrive at that mark.Gila, inzaghi and Oliviera had a poor goal scoring record last season in the league so had Kaka who scored only 5 goals without counting PKs.
This fact is on his way to be repeated again this season.
 

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Edi said:
Yeah but what is a reasonable price for Ronaldinho? He won't come for anything under 30-35 million euros which IMO is way to expensive...
I think 30-35m Euros would be ok. Real paid 76m Euros for Zidane, and if Ronaldinho is even half the player Zidane is, which I believe he is, then the sum would be justified. I think he still has at least another 3-4 years at the top. If he performs to the level he is capable of, especially to prove a point to Barca, then we'll be the benefiters. The obvious question will be if he'll lose motivation after one good season, as Ronaldo did (and that wasn't even a whole season :rolleyes: ) but I don't think, as I've already said, Ronaldinho will be content with what he's achieved. Because if he retires now, he won't be spoken of in the same breath as Ronaldo. And he knows it.
 

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mocha N eco said:
Good points and I agree, but are u sure about Fred? The rumours surrounding him seems to have died down, and no big clubs seem to be after him nowadays..
Thanks. Fred is not really in the big league, but I believe he can do a decent job. All the more so because of the Brazilians we have at Milan.
 

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I think 30-35m Euros would be ok. Real paid 76m Euros for Zidane, and if Ronaldinho is even half the player Zidane is, which I believe he is, then the sum would be justified. I think he still has at least another 3-4 years at the top. If he performs to the level he is capable of, especially to prove a point to Barca, then we'll be the benefiters..
Well 30-35million euros +a sallary of 8-9 million euros per year for a player that is out of form and that"maybe"will start playing good again is too much.
Before we decide to spend that much on him we should first buy a new Gk,new full backs,one central defender and a world class striker. Then if there is still money around, maybe we should go for him.
Ronaldinho should not be a priority signing...
 
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What i want for Milan!

Hey everybody!
although i'm new in these threads but i've been sneaking around in these thread for almost one year. i've newly registered. but i've thinking about that "is anyone responsible from Milan team looking at these threads to hear us out?"
If yes then y no changes are coming to this team. i don't really know.
i'm really really tired of all milan draws and milan loses. i think we'll lose against the gunners this time in round 16 as milan continue like this.

So I wanted to say that the Coach is good Ancellote.
Some players needs to be outa milan this winter.
I'm not making dream transfers infact making transfers which are possible.
we don't want all the stars but at last players who can make the difference.
I'm just starting it seriously.

Has anyone saw Dida's mistake against Inter our real enemies?
What is milan doing at the moment for the next transfer?
Before they were serious for Ronaldhino but now they don't take that seriously too. i'm not hearing anything from milan any bids nowadays.
Y is this happening to Milan.
Ancellote says we need some changes in training regime. but i think it's almost incorrect we need a change in the team.
We need more players. becoz Maldini and Cafu will be retiring by the end of this season. We need some defenders. some midfielders. and attackers.
we need them seriously. to make a change in the game.
C'mon B and A? If you are reading my thread or not. but u must change something out.
The Europian Champions are in No.10 in thier league. this is really hell.
Look at other teams getting everything to make it a win.
Look for Man Utd! They got:
1. Nani
2. Tevez
3. Anderson
4. Hargreaves
5. Pique
last transfer.
But wat did milan do:
1. Pato Good really good.
2. Emerson he's good but he's not filling the gap. we don't need him we already have a bunch of players at the place he's playing.
We need some Central attackers. who we got now.
Seedorf and Kaka' the only two who can make the difference. but who in sub. noone. we can't make it with two players. The gap we need to fill is the Attacking now.
We need some players there who can make the difference.
I can't tell who to get in this point that is your own choice Mr. Berlu... and Ancellote. But at least give some more options to play a game.
Mr. B this is not a making money process that you are selling players and making money. this is a winning and making a team process. So try it out.
You took all the transfer's money in you pocket. but didn't spend any so far.
I suggest you if you want to make money then sell our Legendary Ricky too.
So you'll be rich and we'll wait when we'll see you in Seria C.

Thanks for all the time.
 

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Thanks for the effort but this is the wrong place to open this thread.
 

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I don't think so.
It's about the Transfers. Man!
I'm talking about the last and the next transfers what milan has to do?
read it carefully. i want them the fill the gaps in their formation. so get new players then and infact it's about tranfers of milan???????????????
 

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there are so many threads for u to write about that...

counting 10..9..8.. :D
 

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Guys, please cut the OT out.

TamimAhmadyar, good post.

However, as we carry out all the discussion pertaining to Milan's general performance and transfer campaign - anything, in fact, that concerns the team's Serie A or CL performance, either in the AC Milan Serie A 2007-08 or AC Milan CL 2007-08 thread, this thread is merged with the Serie A thread.
 

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Milan Mid-Season Review: Tricky Times

To say it's been an up and down first half of the season for AC Milan is a bit of an understatement. Gil Gillespie charts the highs and lows of a yo-yo few months for the Rossineri.



zoom - galleria Terrible home form. Ronaldo's persistent injuries. The thrilling World Club Cup triumph in Tokyo. Smashing five past Sampdoria and Lazio away from home.

Losing to Empoli in the San Siro. Kaka picking up the golden ball award. Maldini announcing the date of his retirement. And some of the worst goalkeeping blunders ever seen on a football pitch. Milan's season so far is probably best described as being a bit schizophrenic.

When they were drawn against Arsenal in the Champions League the first comment most English pundits made was that Milan are an ageing team with a chronic lack of pace and are not the same side that lifted the trophy last season.

Actually, they are exactly the same side that won the competition in May. And exactly the same team that slowly and ruthlessly demolished a pumped-up Boca Juniors to become the first ever European team to win the World Club Cup.

True, they can be listless, pedestrian and predictable at times. But Carlo Ancelotti's side are also capable of beating any team in the world when it comes to the cut-throat 90-minute format of the cup. Arsenal, you have been warned.

Maybe Milan's stuttering form in Serie A is down to the famously ageing squad not having the stamina for the long haul of a whole season. That said, the average age of the current starting eleven is only 31.

Maybe its difficult too to lift your game for a run-of-the-mill clash in your domestic league when you've just been jetting around the globe picking up yet another piece of silverware for European football's most over-stuffed trophy cabinet.

Out of form players haven't helped the red-and-black cause either. Unbelievably, the Champions League's leading goal scorer of all time, Pippo Inzaghi, hasn't found the back of the net in Serie A since February.

Gilardino has struggled to 5 in 14 games. In midfield, Rino Gattuso hasn't had a great season by his exacting standards, nor have Seedorf or Oddo. Nesta, Maldini and Kaladze have done well by and large, but in-between the posts, disaster has loomed large.

Giant Brazilian clown Dida has cemented his reputation as the most accident prone goalkeeper in the world. He is the worst this writer has ever seen. Why? A pair of inflexibly hard hands mean his shot-stopping is abysmal, he is always pushing the ball back into the path of the strikers.

The movement of his feet on his line is slow and stumbling. He is now so unsure of his catching ability that he wont come for any crosses. And he falls with all the urgency of a tree-trunk when getting down to low shots.

It was Dida's two handling errors that cost Milan the game against Celtic at Parkhead. He cost them two points at lowly Siena. And, most recently, he effectively handed rivals Inter the title by going for a little walk in the wrong direction as Cambiasso shot on goal.

In the last three or four seasons, Dida must have cost Milan more than 20 matches in all competitions. And now, at last, Silvio Berlusconi has apparently had enough and looks set to replace him in the January transfer window if possible. Mexican keeper Guillermo Ochoa has been mentioned. The much-talked about deal for Sebastian Frey might have to wait until the summer.

There is nothing more unsettling for players than a goalkeeper they know they cant rely on. Dida's complete lack of confidence in his own ability must have had an effect on the whole side at times. If Ancelotti can begin 2008 with a more reassuring presence in goal, then he can begin to turn around the wild inconsistencies that have plagued Milan's season to date.


How will Milan do in the second half of the season? Probably a whole lot better. Lets not forget that Brazilian wonderkid, Pato ‘The Duck’ will be available from January and looks capable of really setting his new team on fire. Lo Scudetto is gone, of course, but don’t rule out another Champions League win.

Gil Gillespie

source: goal.com

Some good, valid and intresting points about Dida. :o
 

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someone is waltzing in with a post containing little novelty + a larger than life attitude telling people to watch their mouth + dude is praised while others have their posts removed? i shouldn't have turned that offer down..

our midfield woes have been named + discussed for years, whether it's the lack of width, temporarily eased through pancaro, cafu + jankulovski, lack of pace, lack of creative spark + sexy footie, ancelotti + his unadventurous clinging to his preferred formation etc.

we've also seen dida's blunder, not his first, not his last either, yet we all know we're stuck with him because berlusconi made a strictly financial decision when forfeiting the opportunity to sign buffon + improving dida's contract instead. he will be making these kind of decisions again in january + in the summer, all while generating + maintaining suspense by talking the talk, we won't be happy but such is life as a milan fan + sooner or later we'll have another chance to bask in the reflected glory of some trophy. ;)

either it will all collapse at one point [but the doom mongers are still waiting for their day, aren't they? myself included] or we manage to patch things up from season to season as we've been doing for a while, rather successfully it might be added, if we play our cards right + focus on achievable goals.

yes, berlusconi is rich but has become stingy, moratti is richer + willing. to spend. what goes unnoticed among all the criticism of tight purse strings is the fact that we have minimized or even eradicated our debt + are a huge step closer to being financially self-sustainable. the concept of austerity executed by the ultimate sugar daddy, the one who started the trend of very wealthy individuals throwing money at their new toys, could mean anything, a new trend or the end of milan as we know it, but in any case our role will remain unchanged, we'll be confined to the stands or in front of the tv to watch + wonder without anyone but ourselves listening to our opinion. :D



*the boys are back in town*
 

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Spot On. If you're right about the debt minimization part that is..

In any case, 90% of the top clubs in the world, the Uniteds, the Madrids, the Inters are all going for overhauls and youngster-signing-sprees these days. And can all these clubs be successful all the time? No way...
Signing a lot of youngsters would turn into tangible results less than half the time, and since the amount of money involved to do that in the current inflated transfer market is huge, it is a very risky option for someone who's money-minded, as Berlusconi seems to have become....

I'm completely fine with our current patch-up strategy if we keep winning trophies. Period.

p.s. But would love to win the league once in the next 2-3 years at least.
 

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*rossonera* said:
yes, berlusconi is rich but has become stingy, moratti is richer + willing. to spend. what goes unnoticed among all the criticism of tight purse strings is the fact that we have minimized or even eradicated our debt + are a huge step closer to being financially self-sustainable. the concept of austerity executed by the ultimate sugar daddy, the one who started the trend of very wealthy individuals throwing money at their new toys, could mean anything, a new trend or the end of milan as we know it, but in any case our role will remain unchanged, we'll be confined to the stands or in front of the tv to watch + wonder without anyone but ourselves listening to our opinion. :D

source of this? it is hard for me to find the income statements of the club. i know there has been some decent profit the last few years, but i am not sure about how much debt milan still has.
 

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*rossonera* said:
^ the internet. sorry i didn't bookmark the site, i know i should have.

alright, if you happen to stumble over it again, please share. :)
 

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mocha N eco said:
In any case, 90% of the top clubs in the world, the Uniteds, the Madrids, the Inters are all going for overhauls and youngster-signing-sprees these days. And can all these clubs be successful all the time? No way...
Signing a lot of youngsters would turn into tangible results less than half the time, and since the amount of money involved to do that in the current inflated transfer market is huge, it is a very risky option for someone who's money-minded, as Berlusconi seems to have become....
to be honest, rejuvenation or maintaining a young[ish] squad + spending sensibly aren't mutually exclusive [-> wenger]. now i bet people will argue, + they certainly have a point if they do, that wenger hasn't won the big cups. but as you said, there'll be only one winner each season + money spent doesn't translate into immediate success or else chelsea would have bagged the cl for 3 or 4 years on the trot. too many tangibles + intangibles simply have to fall into place + while we have done excellent creating the perfect climate to succeed in a 13-match competition you can't discard luck or the fact that we had an advantage over those battling on more fronts. we would only need strategic replacements of our retirees + maybe one or two squad players to remain fairly competitive - if we manage to qualify in the future. ;)

but if we ever want to win a scudetto again with the CL as the cherry on top [do i sound demanding?] there's no alternative to a rather drastic squad renewal, especially in terms of youth + depth.
 

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jpick said:
alright, if you happen to stumble over it again, please share. :)
i will look for it. unfortunately, to complicate matters, my browser cache/history is deleted when i go offline.. lol.. but i'm pretty sure i have a vague idea already.
 
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Milan To Let Eight Players Leave In June

AC Milan will begin a squad revolution by allowing eight players to leave at the end of the season, according to the Gazzetta dello Sport.


The first is the legendary Paolo Maldini, who will retire 23-and-a-half years after making his club debut way back in January of 1985.

Ronaldo will also move on as his contract runs out in the summer, and the Milan hierarchy are refusing to offer him a renewal due to the constant injury problems that have seen him play just once this season.

Rossoneri fans would be happy to see accident-prone goalkeeper Nelson Dida leave the club immediately, however the lack of a valid alternative will see him stay until June, when he will then be replaced, probably by Fiorentina’s Sebastien Frey.

A number of defensive veterans are also set to leave the club. The 37-year-old Cafu signed a one-year contract extension in the summer, however this will almost certainly be his final renewal.

Cafu’s Brazilian compatriot Serginho will turn 37 in June, and despite still demonstrating some blistering pace, he will leave after nine years at the club.

Fellow left back Giuseppe Favalli has a contract at San Siro until 2009, however he is now surplus to requirements and will probably see the final year of his deal paid up in full.

Croatian stopper Dario Simic, who is set for a loan move to Lazio in a few days, will be sold to a club that can offer him first team football.

Finally young French midfielder Yoann Gourcuff, a player likened by some to a young Zinedine Zidane, has been told by Coach Carlo Ancelotti that he has no future with the Rossoneri.

Source: Goal.com

I expected at least 6 of those to leave. Dida only comes around after the latest gaff although I'm not sure about Gour. We should sign adequate replacements but let's wait and see how good or old they will be.
 

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So there will still be place for Digao ? for Brocchi ? for Emerson ?....there is no need to wait and see how they will be evolving..we all know they will always be useless players...
 

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Wow, it's amazing that Goal.com is the only site that's privy to Milan's transfer plans. Not. :rolleyes:
 

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