CL : Arsenal FC (3) vs AC Milan (0) (3-4 Agg) - 6/3/2012

[Kalac#16]

You honestly think you're putting 5 goals in?
Really?

Where did he say that? Really?

 

[blaze]

You honestly think you're putting 5 goals in?
Really?

He doesn't.

 

[WILL2K]

SES's time to shine in Europe

 

[derpu]

Arsenal fans are more realistic, we're not like those idiotic Spurs fans.
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After the humbling experience in the first leg, you should be. You should read your fellows' comment before the first game both here and in your forum though To be fair, many of us also feared that Arsenal will **** us at San Siro.

I'm confident we will win at The Emirates, but we won't keep a clean sheet which means you're going through

 

[Paguma Larvata]

I'm confident we will win at The Emirates, but we won't keep a clean sheet which means you're going through

What makes you confident? The 5-2 win against Spurs? Can i ask you a question? What is it that makes Arsenal fans in general so arrogant. I can understand if you have been winning trophies for years, but as i see it Arsenal in the last 7 seasons has not won a single thing and yet their fans brag about Arsenal and belittle other teams as if they are gods gift to the rest of the football world. No disrespect, i like Arsenal but the ignorance and arrogance of people associated with this great club is mind-boggling. Before the first leg there were people on this forum who were saying that Arsenal is going to smash Milan and that we are a washed up team of old farts, blah blah. And we all know what happened. Now again after this 5-2 win against Spurs they are out of their shells again and posting shit like Milan was lucky to win and that they will see the real Arsenal at the Emirates. Stuff like they will score 6 goals and that Thiago Silva is overrated and we are nothing without Ibra I know in Football anything can happen. You guys are capable of scoring 10 goals, but show some damn respect to a team that just beat you 4-0. I mean comeon!

 

[Dominate]

^^

WTF is this

Arsenal fans have never seemed arragont

That post you quoted has got nothing to do with arragance at all

 

[derpu]

^

I'm confident we will win at The Emirates, but we won't keep a clean sheet which means you're going through

Selective perception, my dear Watson

 

[kevin_dk]

Arsenal fans are never arrogant. They just never know where their team stands in Europe.

 

[Ammaar]

Well guys, if any of you watched the Spurs game, you will see why we will not win the Champions League for a long time and why we haven't.

The big games in the Premier League are now more to do with who has the best and more efficient attack, rather than concentrating on other aspects of the game, like defending.

Shambolic defending from Spurs and Arsenal were shite in the first 30 minutes, couldn't believe how we were carved open so easily in the first 30 minutes because our cbs were too wide apart, but at least we've won the last 3 Premier League games on the trot.

To win the Champions League, you need to master your opponent tactically and focus on nullifying their strengths, rather than playing to your strengths. Defending is vital in the Champions League.

Wenger has openly stated that he does not focus on trying to outmaneuver the opposition by trying to target their weakenesses, but he just focuses on Arsenal trying to play their own way. A distinct lack of flexibility and if we defend like how we did in the first 30 minutes, where the defence lacks any sort of cohesion or fluency, then there could be a repeat of the scoreline from the San Siro.

It was a good win, but Arsenal fans know their place and we're not letting the result get to our heads.

We've won 5 games from 11 in all competitions and that's not good enough.

And no - we will not score 5 against Milan and I am sure we will concede a goal.

 

[Ammaar]

Btw I saw the comments by RamboRamsey who's presumably banned now -

He is either really good at WUMming, a fake Arsenal fan or a very young Arsenal fan

 

[derpu]

General consensus concluded that he is a Juve 'undercover' fan trolling before our match last week

You from arsenal mania? If so, how do your fellow see this match? And, serious question, will Ox really play against us from the beginning?

 

[TheArsenal]

What makes you confident? The 5-2 win against Spurs? Can i ask you a question? What is it that makes Arsenal fans in general so arrogant. I can understand if you have been winning trophies for years, but as i see it Arsenal in the last 7 seasons has not won a single thing and yet their fans brag about Arsenal and belittle other teams as if they are gods gift to the rest of the football world. No disrespect, i like Arsenal but the ignorance and arrogance of people associated with this great club is mind-boggling. Before the first leg there were people on this forum who were saying that Arsenal is going to smash Milan and that we are a washed up team of old farts, blah blah. And we all know what happened. Now again after this 5-2 win against Spurs they are out of their shells again and posting shit like Milan was lucky to win and that they will see the real Arsenal at the Emirates. Stuff like they will score 6 goals and that Thiago Silva is overrated and we are nothing without Ibra I know in Football anything can happen. You guys are capable of scoring 10 goals, but show some damn respect to a team that just beat you 4-0. I mean comeon!

I really don't know where you get this idea from. Every Arsenal fan I know before the San Siro game was nervous and justifiably so after that result and nobody in their right mind would say Thiago Silva is overrated when he clearly is underrated on the international stage, one of the best defenders if not the best.

I don't know where you get your info from but Arsenal fans are not arrogant, we have no reason to be and nobody in their right mind would predict Arsenal going through to the next round.

Having said that, we aren't spineless either, our team may be bad this season but we still support them and believe they can put in the performances that reflect well on our club. I don't think it is arrogant to predict a narrow home win for Arsenal in the CL against a very good side who really don't have much to play for as they are already qualified as long as they defend.

 

[Ammaar]

General consensus concluded that he is a Juve 'undercover' fan trolling before our match last week

You from arsenal mania? If so, how do your fellow see this match? And, serious question, will Ox really play against us from the beginning?

Nope, I'm from not606 and ja606

A debate forum for fans who support any team, mostly Premier League sides, though.

How do I see this match? Like any game - it depends on the players we field, our formation, the way we set up and how badly we want to win the game.

I think because we have nothing to lose we could win, but there's no way we will score 5 goals without conceding, absolutely none. You saw the way Spurs carved our defence in half like a hot knife through butter in the opening 30 minutes.

Our high line is the death of us and ultimately, it's what will cost us if we don't change that philosophy of ''attack is the best form of defence'' or unless we have the personnel that can play that way. It's too idealistic and naive, though.

I will be optimistic and go for a 2-1 or 3-1 Arsenal win.

Most Arsenal fans think we're pretty much out of the competition, but we should at least play for pride and dignity.

Will Chamberlain start? Probably not. It depends if Wenger has now realised he should rotate the trio of Walcott, Gervinho and Chamberlain or not. But I think we'll go for Walcott and Gervinho - which I wouldn't be happy with.

 

[Gio]

I really don't know where you get this idea from. Every Arsenal fan I know before the San Siro game was nervous and justifiably so after that result and nobody in their right mind would say Thiago Silva is overrated when he clearly is underrated on the international stage, one of the best defenders if not the best.

I don't know where you get your info from but Arsenal fans are not arrogant, we have no reason to be and nobody in their right mind would predict Arsenal going through to the next round.

Having said that, we aren't spineless either, our team may be bad this season but we still support them and believe they can put in the performances that reflect well on our club. I don't think it is arrogant to predict a narrow home win for Arsenal in the CL against a very good side who really don't have much to play for as they are already qualified as long as they defend.

Exactly. I don't see Arsenal fans as arrogant. If anything annoys me about them it's their somewhat fickle nature (moreso than most sets of fans), however in recent times it's hard not to be when the team is having such a topsy-turvy season. I've always liked Arsenal and rather they won the premiership over any big team, it's a shame what's happened to them.

 

[Deunamist]

Haha, some Gunners fans are trolling me again.. Don't they ever shut up. Milan's defence is not Spurs/Blackburn defence.

 

[Sheva0172]

It would be a small disaster if van Bommel gets suspended for the first quarter final (if we make it). But not playing him would be to risky.

We need to play our usual game and try to get that goal. If we score its certainly over.

Best team, own playing style & total focus and we will beat them again.

 

[Neenyg]

well apparently Van Persie has got a groin injury, also Vermalean and Rosicky are "not going to play Midweek and very doubtful for weekend" which is a few more players less for us to "worry" about. Oh yea Arsenal also loaned out Arsharvin! They have no1 left!

 

[R&B Milan]

well apparently Van Persie has got a groin injury, also Vermalean and Rosicky are "not going to play Midweek and very doubtful for weekend" which is a few more players less for us to "worry" about. Oh yea Arsenal also loaned out Arsharvin! They have no1 left!

Van Persie is going to play against England today

 

[Sheva0172]

Yes. Dutch media are still expecting RVP to start.
We can take on their best squad. And i want RVP to do well tonight

 

[Ash]

I really don't know where you get this idea from. Every Arsenal fan I know before the San Siro game was nervous and justifiably so after that result and nobody in their right mind would say Thiago Silva is overrated when he clearly is underrated on the international stage, one of the best defenders if not the best.

I don't know where you get your info from but Arsenal fans are not arrogant, we have no reason to be and nobody in their right mind would predict Arsenal going through to the next round.

Having said that, we aren't spineless either, our team may be bad this season but we still support them and believe they can put in the performances that reflect well on our club. I don't think it is arrogant to predict a narrow home win for Arsenal in the CL against a very good side who really don't have much to play for as they are already qualified as long as they defend.

You should really take a look at the match thread of the first leg at Arsenal Mania

Some Arsenal fans were even suggesting resting key players because there was no way Milan is gonna win

 

[Costanza]

As our President recently said, Milan is bigger than injustice, misfortune and envy.

 

[Ashish]

boring thread compared to first leg .. some body pm when we next round draw is done ...


no disrespect to arsenal

 

[LeedsFan]

This is coming from a fairly neutral perspective here:

While it is highly likely that Milan will come to the Emirates and have a close match with Arsenal, most likely losing by one goal or a snatching a draw. It would be extremely dangerous for them to come over and think the job is already done. While Arsenal have been a pretty terrible team this season they are capable of destroying teams on their day, as they showed against (the equally terrible Chelsea) and in the second half against Tottenham (who are a better team than Milan at the moment in my opinion*), this usually coincides with Walcott having a good performance. Luckily for Milan good performances from Walcott are a rare thing indeed and he used his quota up against Spurs last week. Though when he does have a good performance he is nigh on unplayable.

*My opinion is not particularly valid as I rarely watch the Serie A, and only generally watch Milan in the champions league.

 

[Mr. Milanista]

This is coming from a fairly neutral perspective here:

While it is highly likely that Milan will come to the Emirates and have a close match with Arsenal, most likely losing by one goal or a snatching a draw. It would be extremely dangerous for them to come over and think the job is already done. While Arsenal have been a pretty terrible team this season they are capable of destroying teams on their day, as they showed against (the equally terrible Chelsea) and in the second half against Tottenham (who are a better team than Milan at the moment in my opinion*), this usually coincides with Walcott having a good performance. Luckily for Milan good performances from Walcott are a rare thing indeed and he used his quota up against Spurs last week. Though when he does have a good performance he is nigh on unplayable.

*My opinion is not particularly valid as I rarely watch the Serie A, and only generally watch Milan in the champions league.

First of all you are underrating our defence, there is no way in hell we'll concede four or five goals. The Deportivo game won't happen again, Allegri has really fixed our defence. Second, ehmm naaaah, Milan is better than Tottenham.

 

[Ash]

This is coming from a fairly neutral perspective here:

While it is highly likely that Milan will come to the Emirates and have a close match with Arsenal, most likely losing by one goal or a snatching a draw. It would be extremely dangerous for them to come over and think the job is already done. While Arsenal have been a pretty terrible team this season they are capable of destroying teams on their day, as they showed against (the equally terrible Chelsea) and in the second half against Tottenham (who are a better team than Milan at the moment in my opinion*), this usually coincides with Walcott having a good performance. Luckily for Milan good performances from Walcott are a rare thing indeed and he used his quota up against Spurs last week. Though when he does have a good performance he is nigh on unplayable.

*My opinion is not particularly valid as I rarely watch the Serie A, and only generally watch Milan in the champions league.

Why are you so sure that the game will end up in either a loss for Milan or in a draw, ESPECIALLY after the hammering we gave them in the 1st leg?

And Spurs are NOT a better than Milan atm, neither were they last year. They lucked out on a counter attack goal and no offense, but you yourself said that you barely watch Serie A, so how can you make the judgement that Spurs are the better team?

Rest assured, no one thinks the tie is over - our history makes us very aware of that fact. But this could easily be another hammering if our entire squad is fit...

 

[Paguma Larvata]

This is coming from a fairly neutral perspective here:

While it is highly likely that Milan will come to the Emirates and have a close match with Arsenal, most likely losing by one goal or a snatching a draw. It would be extremely dangerous for them to come over and think the job is already done. While Arsenal have been a pretty terrible team this season they are capable of destroying teams on their day, as they showed against (the equally terrible Chelsea) and in the second half against Tottenham (who are a better team than Milan at the moment in my opinion*), this usually coincides with Walcott having a good performance. Luckily for Milan good performances from Walcott are a rare thing indeed and he used his quota up against Spurs last week. Though when he does have a good performance he is nigh on unplayable.

*My opinion is not particularly valid as I rarely watch the Serie A, and only generally watch Milan in the champions league.

After reading that bold part, i am not even going to reply to what you just posted.

 

[Sven]

This is coming from a fairly neutral perspective here:

While it is highly likely that Milan will come to the Emirates and have a close match with Arsenal, most likely losing by one goal or a snatching a draw. It would be extremely dangerous for them to come over and think the job is already done. While Arsenal have been a pretty terrible team this season they are capable of destroying teams on their day, as they showed against (the equally terrible Chelsea) and in the second half against Tottenham (who are a better team than Milan at the moment in my opinion*), this usually coincides with Walcott having a good performance. Luckily for Milan good performances from Walcott are a rare thing indeed and he used his quota up against Spurs last week. Though when he does have a good performance he is nigh on unplayable.

*My opinion is not particularly valid as I rarely watch the Serie A, and only generally watch Milan in the champions league.

I'm not worried cause Milan is much better at controling a game than Chelsea or Spurs (they're also much better than what they did against Arsenal), and more assured defensively. Hardly a Milan game (or a big Serie A game) degenerates into a goalfest EPL style.
Also, problem for Arsenal is that even at their days they conceded 3 for Chelsea and 2 for Tottenham... Milan scores and it's basically over.

 

[Gio]

This is coming from a fairly neutral perspective here:

While it is highly likely that Milan will come to the Emirates and have a close match with Arsenal, most likely losing by one goal or a snatching a draw. It would be extremely dangerous for them to come over and think the job is already done. While Arsenal have been a pretty terrible team this season they are capable of destroying teams on their day, as they showed against (the equally terrible Chelsea) and in the second half against Tottenham (who are a better team than Milan at the moment in my opinion*), this usually coincides with Walcott having a good performance. Luckily for Milan good performances from Walcott are a rare thing indeed and he used his quota up against Spurs last week. Though when he does have a good performance he is nigh on unplayable.

*My opinion is not particularly valid as I rarely watch the Serie A, and only generally watch Milan in the champions league.

Why are you on the forum then?

 

[Goodfella]

This is coming from a fairly neutral perspective here:

While it is highly likely that Milan will come to the Emirates and have a close match with Arsenal, most likely losing by one goal or a snatching a draw. It would be extremely dangerous for them to come over and think the job is already done. While Arsenal have been a pretty terrible team this season they are capable of destroying teams on their day, as they showed against (the equally terrible Chelsea) and in the second half against Tottenham (who are a better team than Milan at the moment in my opinion*), this usually coincides with Walcott having a good performance. Luckily for Milan good performances from Walcott are a rare thing indeed and he used his quota up against Spurs last week. Though when he does have a good performance he is nigh on unplayable.

*My opinion is not particularly valid as I rarely watch the Serie A, and only generally watch Milan in the champions league.

I agree 100%.
Also, Ibra is just a poor man's Peter Crouch.

 

[LeedsFan]

Why are you on the forum then?

I'll look at it occasionally whenever they are playing a British team in the champions league.

I would've joined the Arsenal forums instead, but it's a barren wasteland over there.