Robinho Thread

ww

Banned
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Messages
5,138
Reaction score
0
Fav. Players
Lugano, Raí, Rogério Ceni, Ambrosini, Gattuso

Totally.

For the amount of money carried on his back and what was expected from him... absolutely flop.

But I'm talking about his whole career and not just Milan.
 

Raghav

Milan Icon
Joined
Dec 6, 2009
Messages
3,533
Reaction score
4,195
Location
Delhi, India
Fav. Players
Maldini, Sheva, Kaka, Nesta, Pirlo, R9, Dinho
Where are you going to be fully fit?

I hope you start vs Genoa even if its for 60 mins and then we can Dinho on but start and kick some ass please!
 

theduck7

Milan Legend
Joined
Aug 17, 2009
Messages
6,897
Reaction score
6,646
Sub him in for the whole second half if things aren't going well
 

Senatore_M84

Milan Legend
Joined
Dec 12, 2007
Messages
49,001
Reaction score
-1
Fav. Players
Clarence Clyde Seedorf
are you fucking kidding me? he hasnt even reached 40min playing time so far and your calling him a flop, get real man.

Not true. He's played 72 :tongue: (on @55th v. cessena, @56 v. Auxerre, @87 v. Lazio)


If he isn't getting a shot in next two games i'll be very disappointed. However considering he hasn't complained I tend to believe he might just have some sort of complication.
 

RossoneroTifoso

Milan Icon
Joined
Feb 14, 2010
Messages
4,334
Reaction score
0
Location
Australia
Fav. Players
Maldini, R9, Rino, Nesta, Montolivo, Seedorf, Pippo, Balotelli, De Jong, El Shaarawy, De Sciglio
Yeah for sure he's already flopped. Just like Milan have already flopped this season.


(Sarcasm)
 

GreatKalu

I still believe!
Joined
Apr 30, 2006
Messages
14,080
Reaction score
51
Location
Lusaka, Zambia
Yeah ... and that was disappointing. I hope he isn't sulking because of some "he's Robinho and he has to start" BS :rolleyes:

I didn't know he picked up an injury. If he hadn't, I'd have been even more disappointed in him, as he's been a Milan player for how long now? And how long does it take a professional footballer, out of shape, to get fit?

Nevertheless, since he was injured, he is excused. I just hope this isn't a Man City situation, where he is a completely different player only when he wears the Brazilian shirt.

That said, if he can reproduce his NT performances here in Milan, then I think he'll be better suited than Dinho to maximize Ibra's abilities. In which case, I sincerely hope he can either adopt to playing on the right, or in the hole.

-------- Ibra
-- Pato ------ Binho

or

--- Pato ---- Ibra
------- Binho
 

anilak

Milan Legend
Joined
Sep 27, 2009
Messages
6,838
Reaction score
0
Location
California, United States
I somehow fear abt what a friend of mine who supports Barca said wen we signed Binho.

Some years back they signed henry when they already had Messi, Etoo and Dinho. And they were all wondering how they will fit all 4 in one team for 3 spots as all 4 were bonafide stars used to stars all their lifes. It ended with Dinho becoming lazy and fat and in Milan as he hates competition apparently. I was hoping it's all false, but now can't stop thinking of what he said. :cry:

Right now the way Dinho is playing ( he's contributing in assists, but he's losing too many balls and not doing anything abt it. Game 1 he was a much different player, tracking back and in very aggressive mood, don't know wtf happened) our best formation wen Pato comes back is

.........Zlatan
Pato ..............Binho

or

....Binho................Pato
...............Zlatan

I love Dinho, but he has to get his act together or Binho will get to start over him based on merit. LOL at people who call Binho a flop after playin 50 minutes in total with an injury.
 

RossoneroTifoso

Milan Icon
Joined
Feb 14, 2010
Messages
4,334
Reaction score
0
Location
Australia
Fav. Players
Maldini, R9, Rino, Nesta, Montolivo, Seedorf, Pippo, Balotelli, De Jong, El Shaarawy, De Sciglio
Yeah ... and that was disappointing. I hope he isn't sulking because of some "he's Robinho and he has to start" BS :rolleyes:

I didn't know he picked up an injury. If he hadn't, I'd have been even more disappointed in him, as he's been a Milan player for how long now? And how long does it take a professional footballer, out of shape, to get fit?

Nevertheless, since he was injured, he is excused. I just hope this isn't a Man City situation, where he is a completely different player only when he wears the Brazilian shirt.

That said, if he can reproduce his NT performances here in Milan, then I think he'll be better suited than Dinho to maximize Ibra's abilities. In which case, I sincerely hope he can either adopt to playing on the right, or in the hole.

-------- Ibra
-- Pato ------ Binho

or

--- Pato ---- Ibra
------- Binho

I would LOVE to see Robinho in national team form for us. That would be amazing, he is one of the best dribblers in the world, I mean, Ronaldo & Messi are awesome but Robinho is beautiful to watch, he is definitely up in the top 5 dribblers in the world.

He didn't get the ball much last night but he was moving well and getting in to good positions.
 
Last edited:

Jasper

Maldini tier
Joined
Oct 27, 2005
Messages
47,247
Reaction score
51
Location
Mt. Paektu
Fav. Players
3; Marat Safin; Tiziano Crudeli; 2Pac; Christian Bale; Martin M??rsepp; Balotelli.
I somehow fear abt what a friend of mine who supports Barca said wen we signed Binho.

Some years back they signed henry when they already had Messi, Etoo and Dinho. And they were all wondering how they will fit all 4 in one team for 3 spots as all 4 were bonafide stars used to stars all their lifes. It ended with Dinho becoming lazy and fat and in Milan as he hates competition apparently. I was hoping it's all false, but now can't stop thinking of what he said. :cry:

Right now the way Dinho is playing ( he's contributing in assists, but he's losing too many balls and not doing anything abt it. Game 1 he was a much different player, tracking back and in very aggressive mood, don't know wtf happened) our best formation wen Pato comes back is

.........Zlatan
Pato ..............Binho

or

....Binho................Pato
...............Zlatan

I love Dinho, but he has to get his act together or Binho will get to start over him based on merit. LOL at people who call Binho a flop after playin 50 minutes in total with an injury.
Why do you fear that? I'm all for Robinho to take out Gaucho if he can deliver. And specially if we will end up like Barca did.
 

GreatKalu

I still believe!
Joined
Apr 30, 2006
Messages
14,080
Reaction score
51
Location
Lusaka, Zambia
It ended with Dinho becoming lazy and fat and in Milan as he hates competition apparently.
Thats not an excuse for him being a lazy fuck. He's being paid 8+ mil a year to do his job. If he can't do it properly, and can't take the heat from other players who, at the end of it all, aspire to earn as much, then I suggest he step aside and/or find another career where he is happy doing what he's doing and in his comfort zone where he doesn't feel threatened.

Honestly, if you guys can't see what lengths Milan, on Berlu's obvious command, have gone to revive and accommodate his personal boy-toy, then we simply have to agree to disagree. IMO, he's thrown 70+ million down the drain, but its his money, so who am I to say anything about it?
He didn't get the ball much last night but he was moving well and getting in to good positions.
Dinho still has exceptional touch and control, but this is where Binho will leave him way behind. Mobility, or rather a lack of it, is one aspect of Dinho's game that is being exponentiated in a Milan side that lacks it desperately. A lot of us agreed that our problem was having too many technical brilliant passers and visionary geniuses, and not enough runners ... players willing to break a sweat to get into a good position to receive the ball.

Binho can do this, and I've seen him do it for Brazil. He has pace and energy, and isn't too bad on the ball as well. If he is focused and determined, there can only be one player on the team sheet, unless its been faxed from Berlu's personal residence.
 

RossoneroTifoso

Milan Icon
Joined
Feb 14, 2010
Messages
4,334
Reaction score
0
Location
Australia
Fav. Players
Maldini, R9, Rino, Nesta, Montolivo, Seedorf, Pippo, Balotelli, De Jong, El Shaarawy, De Sciglio
I was watching the highlights, and in the chance that Boateng almost scored Binho was right in a perfect position to take advantage a pass.



2:55

Watch Robinho's run.

He starts the move, then runs in and around behind the defense.
 

DSL

Joined
Sep 3, 2010
Messages
42
Reaction score
0
i heard something about binho not being fit yet, didnt get to train with man city or something like that :S hope to see him more however, see what he can do for the team, atleast it cant get much worse than last 3-4 games lol.
 
D

Deleted member 24225

Guest
Robinho certainly is no flop! He barely played for us and was injured and out of form in that time, so how do you already can judge him and call him flop, that's not fair. :head:

Allegri had to get him on earlier yesterday, then he could've done much more and we could've extended the lead with his help. I think he deserves more playing time, Allegri should start him on Saturday. Also Dinho is a lazy fuck, so we need someone who actually moves his ass, Robinho would be more than welcome in the starting eleven. I would even give him a starting spot if Dinho doesn't move his ass more and then we could play with Robinho-Zlatan-Pato, would be a dynamic attack.
 

melanman

The Oracle
Joined
Jan 17, 2010
Messages
4,698
Reaction score
143
Its funny out of the limited chances we had the people that created them are gettin the most flack around here.........if thats not bias! I dont know what is.
 

Madridista

not exactly a lightweight
Joined
Feb 1, 2007
Messages
8,020
Reaction score
3
Fav. Players
Doku, Osimhen, Rafael Leao, Tonali, Rodrygo, Valverde, De Paul, Lautaro Martinez, Pogba, Fekir

****** as usual. In six minutes as he was on the pitch he immediately started mixing it up with runs and involvement. He was dynamic and brought movement, even sparked a bit life into Ronaldinho. But of course you can't see that because he didn't score or make an assist in his six minutes.:o

Robinho needs to play alongside Ronaldinho, Pato and Ibra. Like he did at Santos with Neymar, Ganso and Andre. Right now he isn't fit, he didn't go through a real preseason and has some injuries now. But when he really returns, he will become Milan's best and focal player. Mark my words.
 

RossoneroTifoso

Milan Icon
Joined
Feb 14, 2010
Messages
4,334
Reaction score
0
Location
Australia
Fav. Players
Maldini, R9, Rino, Nesta, Montolivo, Seedorf, Pippo, Balotelli, De Jong, El Shaarawy, De Sciglio
****** as usual. In six minutes as he was on the pitch he immediately started mixing it up with runs and involvement. He was dynamic and brought movement, even sparked a bit life into Ronaldinho. But of course you can't see that because he didn't score or make an assist in his six minutes.:o

Robinho needs to play alongside Ronaldinho, Pato and Ibra. Like he did at Santos with Neymar, Ganso and Andre. Right now he isn't fit, he didn't go through a real preseason and has some injuries now. But when he really returns, he will become Milan's best and focal player. Mark my words.

I did think he added an extra dimension to our forward line, one that we were lacking. With Ibra & Dinho upfront the only people to really make runs for them is Boateng.... erm.. maybe Flamini if he's playing? Ibra & Dinho both like to create play, however, Dinho lacked runners and while Ibra is good at what he does, he isn't a natural target man like Borriello. I think Robinho can become the guy that Ibra & Dinho look to play through, just like Pato.
 

Madridista

not exactly a lightweight
Joined
Feb 1, 2007
Messages
8,020
Reaction score
3
Fav. Players
Doku, Osimhen, Rafael Leao, Tonali, Rodrygo, Valverde, De Paul, Lautaro Martinez, Pogba, Fekir
I did think he added an extra dimension to our forward line, one that we were lacking. With Ibra & Dinho upfront the only people to really make runs for them is Boateng.... erm.. maybe Flamini if he's playing? Ibra & Dinho both like to create play, however, Dinho lacked runners and while Ibra is good at what he does, he isn't a natural target man like Borriello. I think Robinho can become the guy that Ibra & Dinho look to play through, just like Pato.

Exactly, the puzzle would be complete with Robinho. He suits all the players and they will all play better because of him, he's just that kind of player that Milan needs right now to start functioning in attack. Boateng is hard running but lacks a bit of finesse in attack. Robinho is perfect to create fluidity and interaction in attack. He'd be the bridge between Dinho and Ibra.
 

Jasper

Maldini tier
Joined
Oct 27, 2005
Messages
47,247
Reaction score
51
Location
Mt. Paektu
Fav. Players
3; Marat Safin; Tiziano Crudeli; 2Pac; Christian Bale; Martin M??rsepp; Balotelli.
****** as usual. In six minutes as he was on the pitch he immediately started mixing it up with runs and involvement. He was dynamic and brought movement, even sparked a bit life into Ronaldinho. But of course you can't see that because he didn't score or make an assist in his six minutes.:o
He played just few minutes. It's a samplesize you can't draw any conclusions. He came on and run a bit. Like any player in that position would have done. Lazio fell to defence and waited what we do just like other small teams(Catania). And Robinho sparked the team? Did Odu spark the team vs Catania? No, they just came on in a time they can only affect the game by luck. Still you parade here like he changed the game and jump on ultradefensive labelling and overblowing Robinho's presence. Nothing changed in the game's scenery, Robinho didn't have time to make any change.
 

Madridista

not exactly a lightweight
Joined
Feb 1, 2007
Messages
8,020
Reaction score
3
Fav. Players
Doku, Osimhen, Rafael Leao, Tonali, Rodrygo, Valverde, De Paul, Lautaro Martinez, Pogba, Fekir
Point is if he had been put on earlier, it would probable have made the difference. It was enough to conclude that.
 

Jasper

Maldini tier
Joined
Oct 27, 2005
Messages
47,247
Reaction score
51
Location
Mt. Paektu
Fav. Players
3; Marat Safin; Tiziano Crudeli; 2Pac; Christian Bale; Martin M??rsepp; Balotelli.

RossoneroTifoso

Milan Icon
Joined
Feb 14, 2010
Messages
4,334
Reaction score
0
Location
Australia
Fav. Players
Maldini, R9, Rino, Nesta, Montolivo, Seedorf, Pippo, Balotelli, De Jong, El Shaarawy, De Sciglio
Where all right! :)

Durka...
 

Jasper

Maldini tier
Joined
Oct 27, 2005
Messages
47,247
Reaction score
51
Location
Mt. Paektu
Fav. Players
3; Marat Safin; Tiziano Crudeli; 2Pac; Christian Bale; Martin M??rsepp; Balotelli.
Actually I figured out how you'll get this. Really simple. Imagine Robinho came on and you don't see him in action at all(it's very likely the game just plays out on other flanks an whatnot). If something like that occurs do you feel people can say it is justified that him coming on earlier wouldn't have made difference?

Going bit away from Robinho ... I heard a story how Germans(?) made and analyse of the referees and concluded that they work the best from certain distance. If they are far away they can't see good enough and if they are too close they overreact a lot. Unfortunately I don't have a source so it can be a legend but it's pretty logical. In my eyes with it happens the same with some judgements(let's call the youtube judgements) on players solely on one(few) episodes on the pitch. And since Robinho was on the pitch only for a youtube-video time I categorize a valuation on him into that.
 

Madridista

not exactly a lightweight
Joined
Feb 1, 2007
Messages
8,020
Reaction score
3
Fav. Players
Doku, Osimhen, Rafael Leao, Tonali, Rodrygo, Valverde, De Paul, Lautaro Martinez, Pogba, Fekir
Actually I figured out how you'll get this. Really simple. Imagine Robinho came on and you don't see him in action at all(it's very likely the game just plays out on other flanks an whatnot). If something like that occurs do you feel people can say it is justified that him coming on earlier wouldn't have made difference?

Going bit away from Robinho ... I heard a story how Germans(?) made and analyse of the referees and concluded that they work the best from certain distance. If they are far away they can't see good enough and if they are too close they overreact a lot. Unfortunately I don't have a source so it can be a legend but it's pretty logical. In my eyes with it happens the same with some judgements(let's call the youtube judgements) on players solely on one(few) episodes on the pitch. And since Robinho was on the pitch only for a youtube-video time I categorize a valuation on him into that.

Yeah but that didn't happen. In those six minutes Milan attacked and Robinho was involved. Those attacks were different from before. Those attacks failed, but it was obvious that if that was tried for longer it would have bear fruit. There's no guarantee for anything, but I saw a glimpse of Robinho giving a new dimension to the attack. You can't compare that with Odu or anyone else impact because we know what Robinho is capable of.
 

Senatore_M84

Milan Legend
Joined
Dec 12, 2007
Messages
49,001
Reaction score
-1
Fav. Players
Clarence Clyde Seedorf
****** as usual. In six minutes as he was on the pitch he immediately started mixing it up with runs and involvement. He was dynamic and brought movement, even sparked a bit life into Ronaldinho. But of course you can't see that because he didn't score or make an assist in his six minutes.:o

Robinho needs to play alongside Ronaldinho, Pato and Ibra. Like he did at Santos with Neymar, Ganso and Andre. Right now he isn't fit, he didn't go through a real preseason and has some injuries now. But when he really returns, he will become Milan's best and focal player. Mark my words.

I don't know that any of this is true. But I don't know why anyone would ever criticize a sub who comes on in the 87th either, unless they blew the game (robinho did not).

I wanna see robinho get a proper start of two. We know what he can do, and those are attributes (speed, movement) Milan are missing most.

Yeah but that didn't happen. In those six minutes Milan attacked and Robinho was involved. Those attacks were different from before. Those attacks failed, but it was obvious that if that was tried for longer it would have bear fruit. There's no guarantee for anything, but I saw a glimpse of Robinho giving a new dimension to the attack. You can't compare that with Odu or anyone else impact because we know what Robinho is capable of.

Milan pushed on in last minutes of catania game when odu came on too..... they wanted a goal and game was dying. This wasn't robinho's doing or undoing. Short of luck, a guy isn't expected to make a real difference in 3 mins.

Yes you're right he's more likely to be inpactful than Odu but let's not anoint his presense as having any real impact otherwise you sound like the moron who claimed zarate's substitution was reason Lazio scored.
 
Last edited:

Madridista

not exactly a lightweight
Joined
Feb 1, 2007
Messages
8,020
Reaction score
3
Fav. Players
Doku, Osimhen, Rafael Leao, Tonali, Rodrygo, Valverde, De Paul, Lautaro Martinez, Pogba, Fekir
My point was that he should have entered earlier.
 

Jasper

Maldini tier
Joined
Oct 27, 2005
Messages
47,247
Reaction score
51
Location
Mt. Paektu
Fav. Players
3; Marat Safin; Tiziano Crudeli; 2Pac; Christian Bale; Martin M??rsepp; Balotelli.

Schedule
Top